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Why are we frightened to be nothing. Listen from 43:10 to 49:30.

I've been contemplating this... Don't know about addiction. But about procrastination, you're already assuming there's things you gotta do. And those things are often things you'd rather avoid for reasons unknown. You may love it, in some sense. But yet it's hard to bring yourself to do it. Recently I've entered a different territory. And it's been difficult to preserve the meaning in anything I do. I eventually gave up trying to build meaning. What can be easily broken is better off broken. The truth is, vision is a poor substitute for awareness. My only goal these days is to preserve my awareness and pass a certain threshold. No real reason why. It's not even worth calling a goal. Because it's not. It should be natural. But this again, like you said is extremely difficult to do, when the energy is pulled in many different directions. And I have to constantly remind myself. I'm terribly disappointed by human standards of living. It's partially because I want everyone to have a different, more evolved norm. But realising how unrealistic it is. And how much it will hinder their survival and they can't afford it. For me, it was, so far I've built my interests by following my heart and ignoring every little motivation factor from outside. Now, I feel utterly lonely, I realised the place I've reached is so lonely. And this is the place I call home. And been losing friends from my life on a high speed. May be procrastination is a coping mechanism to go back to the world's norms.. And a way to preserve my empathy for the world.. And be a part of it.. like an actual part, of the group. There's only 2 things, which can break this. A strong ego, or a strong nothingness. Both will do. Ego is easier to summon, but hard to maintain. And nothingness takes a bit of work and pain sucking.. but less energy is needed to preserve it. I guess drugs are a failed way of preserving one or the other.. same for any addictions. Life purpose is equivalent of building a strong ego and maintaining it. Higher learning requires you be fluid.. But survival requires you be grounded and be blind in a way. That is if you're going the ego route.

In my awakening, I had the following clear insights: We are all one There is only Love energy True love is unconditional The Ego does not exist The true I AM is completely indestructible The true I AM is everywhere - in the mountains, in the rivers, in birds (the same words that I uttered during the glimpse) Life has a harmonious design Everything that I ever knew was an illusion and a lie. There is no such thing as time and space There is bliss and ecstasy hidden underneath the illusion These insights have stayed with me since the initial awakening and they have matured deeply. However, my monkey mind doesn't understand what Nothingness means because in the awakening, the awareness had a characteristics of Love. So, it is not even Love? Is there more beyond it?

Correct, i share this view. When sense of self is gone, there is not a possibility of being alone, because the self constructed everything, including world, others, reality, time, etc. Enlightment is complete death, which is why most of us are never enlightened, Only "states" of consciousness or "enlightment experiences". After a while Sort of sense of self has to build in order to keep playing illusion, if not physical body can not be hold for long time. So we are moving there, i think. Every one of us is a limb of the Nothingness Consciousness, little by little more awareness is being stablished. The goal is the dream one day Will come to an end. Whole world came from nothing and Will go back to nothing. But...the gift (or curse?) Of apparent individual experience comes from a freedom of choice of when you want to exercise that freedom Yourself. Every being goes at is own pace... altough the beings are imaginary yes, there is Only the Nothing.

Consciousness isn't nothingness or 0. It is existence, Love, and awareness. It is complete and whole. It is indivisible Oneness. This dream, an illusion of multiplicity, is the opposite of that Oneness.

@James Swartz Did you discover answers to the most important questions in life? Like: The reason behind the creation of the universe? What is God/Self? Is life a dream, an illusion, maya? What is the practical process of coming back home (to Self)? How do we break the cycle of birth and death? If God is perfect Love and the Creator of this domain, why is there suffering, pain, and death? Are you aware of the activities of the unconscious mind and the thought system that is hidden there? Is life made out of vibrations? Is the universe infinite? Is the theory of multiverse correct? Is it holographic? Does manifestation work? Is diet important in awakening? Was Buddha enlightened? If so, why didn't he mention that God is Love? Perhaps he was mistaken and finished his journey by only attaining nothingness aka cessation?

For quite a long time now i've been trying to understand the concept of nothingness found in most mystical and spiritual traditions in some form and I few days ago as I was driving home from work I realized that in my experience the world i'm seeing visually seems to vanish into non-existence or literally nothing as my car passes through it(my sensory experience in the moment). Hopefully I explained it well, it makes sense if you observe your experience of the world and how every individual experience is impermenant and seems to disappear into non-existence. Then I remembered hearing about the concept of "gone" and "vanishing" from shinzen young which describes this experience very well here for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-7LXHjGHfM&t now I can't stop thinking or trying to understand this teaching So I am just deluding myself or am I on to something here?

Any emotional state is infinite. I wouldn't advise seeking a wider spiritual experience with other emotions unless you are very well grounded. I've experienced: Infinite Nothingness. Infinite bliss. Infinite sorrow. All of them were me.

There's no actual process. Just appear that way. There's no actual space or time, how can there be an actual process, but only within the dream. The dream of separation. There's no separation within the Absolute, its already whole and complete. Yea, to the meaning that there's no meaning to what already is. It doesn't need a meaning to be what it is already. The story doesn't exist. To exist means to stand out. Where is the story that stands out from anything else. Is made of nothing. This implies separation. There is none. It's illusory to the dreamer. Nothing to be conscious of if it's whole and complete. What's that? I've only heard the term through Spiritualists. Never knew what I've come to recognize had a name. What is false freedom. Doesn't matter if the dreamer thinks it's free or not free. The Absolute is free to appear as "false freedom". There's nothing but the Absolute which is already free. A person who thinks it's free is in no better of a position than one who thinks it's not. It may only lead to a better experience, which is ultimately not even happening. The form cannot be annihilated because it's just an appearance. It can only appear to be annihilated. Both collapses into nothingness. Existence cannot be defined because the words used are also it. There is no balance in wholeness. Completeness. It's already done. You see, I'm not speaking from some non-dualistic teaching that you assuming I got from some Neo whatever. It has become pretty obvious what this is. All you're saying is what seems to appear within this wholeness and what you assume about what's happening with what's appearing, IS THE STORY.

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Your words are also love. A nothingness form of love.

A small passage from my I-Ching consultation yesterday,,, This line can also refer to a person who, in following a spiritual path, has not experienced the benefits he expected. Instead of questioning whether he has been following the correct path, he interprets the counsel "to return" as saying that he has not tried hard enough, and needs to try harder. He must recognize that a spiritual path, as described in the main text, is a forward-leading path that leads to more and more separation from his true self, as he tries to become something special (i.e., a "spiritual being"). The path of return indicated by this hexagram is the path of divesting oneself of all self-images and attempts to be special. The person needs also to rid himself of the blame spell he has put on himself for not doing enough. (See p. 550, Deprogramming Procedure.) Pertinent correlation from Almaas’ Teaching- Ending Up with a Mental Image for an Identity An important question remains unanswered: Why, when Being or its aspect of space is lost, is what remains nothingness and not something else? In other words, why do we end up with emptiness and not another content of experience? To answer this question we have to discuss the point at which psychodynamics touches phenomenology. We need to see how psychodynamic processes—which are processes in time—affect felt phenomena—which always involve spatially experienced objects of perception. We first consider how specifically the loss of space leads to deficient emptiness.pace is lost as the mind takes self-image for identity. We have seen that this leads to the building of boundaries in the openness of space. The final result is that instead of the experience of Being without mental images, one ends up with a mental image for an identity. So instead of space being pervaded by Being it gets filled with a self composed of many self-representations. Now, what is the phenomenon of space when it is filled with the self? In other words, what is the mind filled with the psychic structure? On the surface it is the usual experience of the personality with its various manifestations. But, at the core, it is the deficient emptiness. The Void, pg. 135 We Know Ourselves From the Veil of Memory The mental images and attitudes that determine how we experience ourselves form the basis of a whole implicit worldview. We also experience ourselves only indirectly, as a subject experiencing an object. We are aware of ourselves as an object like other objects, seeing ourselves in the world as one object among others. Even when one is aware of oneself as perceiver or subject, this perception is different from the direct sense of our facticity, from the fact of our existence. We still know ourselves from the veil of memory. The Point of Existence, pg. 21

Everyone makes it so complicated. Nothingness is a blank. Right now look all around you, notice that everything you see is within a blank. A blank cannot be detected by the senses, it cannot be perceived. When you go in deep sleep, it's a blank. So BEING, is so nothing, it doesn't exist as an appearance. Then there is knowledge, what we call appearance. To know a thing is to observe a thing. So creation is the birth of knowledge. So existence, is knowledge itself. But what is knowledge comprised of? Knowledge is made of being, an existence that is prior to appearance. So the biggest mind fuck of all is you can exist as nothing in particular. But if you do not exist as something in particular....you have no knowledge. So the embrace of non appearance as existence is to realize that appearance is literally made up of NON-APPEARANCE. This means you cannot die because you were never an appearance anyway. And death is just the expansion into a greater appearance, the unlimited unknowing self, with the unlimited all knowing self. This is Absolute Truth in its totality where everything is known as being. So it has complete self knowledge and complete awareness of its being at the same time. It has absolute control and it realizes why it gave that control to expression and knowledge of love with the full force of its intelligence.

https://www.actualized.org/forum/search/?&q=Nothingness&author=Water by the River Selling Nothing by the River PS:

No, "everythingness" is not in duality with nothingness. "Existence and nonexistence are incompatible. The difficult and the easy are mutually opposed. The long and the short, the high and the low, the lod and soft, the before and the after- are all opposites. Each reveals the other." from the Tao Te Ching But in a sense everything is nothingness, but not in a dual relationship like long and short.

@James123 its like i can literally remember it being there pre birth, because its outside of time. im having a mini awakening right now wtf. is this really what people mean when they talk about the nothingness that never dies?

Leo has said something like, Consciousness is an Infinite Nothingness that makes distinctions. And these distinctions make up reality as we perceive it. Does anyone have any insight on how Nothingness can generate distinctions?

Yes, I'd rate Andre Halaw's books as some of the most important for understanding classical enlightenment and Nothingness, and neti-neti is an effective method for realizing Nothingness as your true nature. I recently returned to his book No-Mind and a particular representation struck: "Consciousness is only a portion of what you are. You are not limited to your awareness, experiences, or consciousness. Below is a visual representation of your total self, where consciousness is depicted in white: As you can see, the white comma-shape expressing awareness accounts for only a fraction of the total image. Just as most of the photo is black, the vast majority of what we are consists of Non-awareness. Consciousness apprehends 'things' such as sounds, odors, etc., while Non-awareness is a type of knowing that does not rely upon forms, sounds, odors, flavors, objects, or thoughts. It is the darkness of Not-knowing. For this reason, I also call it Non-being, Non-existence, or even Nothingness, all of which point to the same reality—the formless, unconditioned Absolute at the base of consciousness and the root of all reality."

So I'm in rehab as I've done psychedelics in the past and in rehab it teaches that you can achieve bliss and satisfaction by being sober. And now I see what they mean. Being sober is a great for to some degree ofcourse these euphoric states and calmness are rare, but I think it goes a long way after the longer period of time in sober state. Previously I thought that I can only be happy by doing drugs, this is false drugs are good and all but there are consequences that come with it, especially after you stop taking the drugs for a longer period of time, like 6 months or so. Really these consequences and scary and Leo still proclaims that psychedelics can't get you addicted. This is also false, sure there are times after you take psychedelics in large dozes that you didn't want it anymore, but for how long? After it like you need to take another dose of those drugs to feel better again, to escape the suffering. It really bugging then my mind works like that. So anyway whenever I see that all this rehab did influence me in a way to see that soberity is not that bad, it's good actually. And really like we can't be taking psychedelics 24/7, there's a time and place for them, but we still need to stay sober and get back from all the chaos in my minds and fix it up a bit so we could be a part of society and live a prosperous life.

life is short you know..? 10.. 20..30.. 40..50.. 60 years max and bye bye 👋 Right ? Fucking NO. What if death is only something you've been brainwashed with by society..parents ..other people..religion..and even science . You might have witnessed animals dying or people dying..but is that an evidence that YOU will die ? I know this sounds like mad talk that only belongs to the nut wards ..but trust me guys I've done hundreds of hours of contemplating ..and I assure you ..there Is not one single evidence that you are going to die. But ofcourse no amount of me saying this will get it to click in your mind . You must discover it for yourself. And also nobody knows what happens after death (if its even gonna happen) that is of course if we lay aside religious stories and philosophical speculation.. Hands down: Reincarnation.. Nothingness.. Heaven and hell realms etc are nothing but beautiful beliefs. Death itself is a fucking belief.

Awakening to the facet of immortality and who you actually are Is very simple imo and can be done with simple logic. Only that which is unborn will never die . Is this clear ? Because if it dies then it wasn't eternal. It can only be eternal if it had no start in the past and therefore infinite amount of existing has already passed and it doesn't die . So ..again..only that which was unborn shall never die . Let's investigate what that "thing" is . Think about it ..What was born ? The human body ..This person that you appear to be ..this whole universe with its origin via the big bang. Etc All these were born ..so they will vanish eventually sooner or later. And What was never born? What didn't have a beginning and cannot have an end ? You should immediately see that it's Nothing . No thing . Only nothing is eternal. And therfore your true nature is nothingness. I hope the point I made is clear . If you guys have any questions or objections go ahead. Thx.

Reality is a construct, the universe is a construct. It is constructed of nothingness. So of course a thought is a construct that is what imagination is, it is the power to construct which is the power to build which is the power to create. God is a constant dream. It either dreams itself as a void, or as non apparent, or it dreams up an appearance, all with the power of thought. Where do you think the power of thought comes from? If you could with your mind think the sun out of existence you would literally be using the power of God.

I'm not denying consciousness. Please try to understand my position clearly . Consciousness exists . But what is consciousness? Its a shape shifting substance that has no ground . What's tripping you up in this inquiry is you imagine nothingness to be black void . No ..nothingness is a shape shifter that takes on endless forms but in its essence its not any particular form specifically

A beginningless thing cannot die because if it can it must've been dead since infinite time in the past . Only that which is beginningless can be endless .and that thing is nothingness aka God.

It can lead to a major panic attack or worse. I used to fear insanity a lot. Fear of the unknown or fear of death are also two big ones, but it doesn't matter as much what form the fear takes. You can even fear love. In my opinion it boils down to fear of nothingness, it's like your ego fears the void, where it is completely obvious that it is an illusion.

The foundation of reality is the absence of limits. This is not something but the lack of something. Since there are no limits, everything that can be is, therefore one could say that reality is everything, but since there are no limits, everything that is blurs in the total unlimited amplitude until it is revealed as absolute nothingness, an empty abyss. They are the two sides or perspectives of reality. It can be translated into: reality is everything. everything, given its infinitude, is illusory, therefore, it is nothing.