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Yeah... that's fear. You've got a lot of fear to surrender before you are able to realize the Love of that alien super-intelligence. You're not going to get stuck in hell forever. That's just one of your deepest fears, so of course it hits you hard. The reason it feels forced is because YOU forced! LOL. That's what 5-MeO-DMT is! When you sit down to smoke bufo what you are basically saying is: "Force God upon me." And so it is. Then the question is are you able to handle what you asked for? Are you able to chew what you bit off? Which is why moderate dosing is crucial. You can certainly traumatize yourself with God by taking a large dose because by putting a chemical in your system you are brute-forcing awakening at the material level. And the material level tends to be ruthless. Gravity is not going to have compassion for you if you jump out of an airplane. Gravity will feel unloving in such a situation. But that's because you were crazy enough to jump out of an airplane. It's your job in this situation to ensure you have a parachute and know how to deploy it. Definitely try plugging it. Much gentler and smoother. Lower your dose. Don't be macho. This is not about who can do more. It's about finding the perfect dose for your current station in life. You will also get used to 5-MeO-DMT the more you do it. The first few times it just feels so alien, otherworldly, and confusing. Go slowly. Be patient. Play the long game. Take time to integrate. Trip only when you feel like you're ready for another dose of Truth. Sometimes I have to take months between trips. Don't be trying to copy me by doing some 30 days challenge bullshit. That's way too much. You should not be taking that as the standard example of how to trip. I was doing very hardcore stuff there because I wanted to test the limits.

I smoked 15mg of bufo this weekend, which I know isnt a lot, but it was still very intense. Ive done 7gs of shrooms 4x and have had ego death, and even just 15mg of bufo was WAY more intense. During the trip, it felt like i (james) was communicating with an alien superintelligence, and it wanted me to completely surrender to it and maybe give my soul to it (idk if i believe in souls, but thats what it felt like). However, it didnt seem loving at all - it seems very threatening, like it was coercing me to love it and surrender to it ‘or else’, and it also seems like if I fucked up this exchange somehow it would sent me straight to hell forever. Im aware that this could be my ego playing tricks on me, but the threatening thing felt outside of me versus inside (maybe its still my ego though, idk). It’s easy to downplay the gravity of this when I’m sober and say “oh thats just part of the experience / its your subconscious / etc”, but when youre in that space its the realest thing youve ever felt and the stakes are everything. I decided that even if theres a 1 in 1000th chance that i literally get sent to hell forever, its just not worth it. That said, i still want to do it again (lol), but before i do that i want to make sure i dont figuratively or literally get stuck in hell forever. If anyone has thoughts on how to do this, id love to hear your thoughts and im sure this would help a lot of others too. Here are some ideas i have so far: -Work on overcoming this fear of hell with my therapist. -Talk to a bunch of ppl who have experienced hell on 5meo (my key concerns are that you get stuck there for what feels like an eternity or actually for eternity, or its so unbearable that it destroys you, or you get possessed). -Talk to more ppl in general who have done 5meo. -Try 5meo via syringe instead of smoking. Would appreciate any thoughts! And to preemptively respond to many of you, i am logically on board with “its all you!” and the general oneness argument, but that doesn’t help me solve this on an emotional level. Thanks again!

@An young being from the Absolute POV yeah You are designing it all so that it unfolds perfectly into discovering you are Infinite Love. In your Infinite Intelligence you had to forget you were infinite in order to experience it and know that you are Infinite experientially. So You designed and created all of this. Time, evolution - the advancement of humanity - even alien beings far more advanced than humans. If you knew up front that it was being designed and imagined by You it would probably take all the realness away. Like spoiling the end of a good movie. So relatively speaking, yes, the evolution of time is moving us towards a higher state of consciousness. A more advanced society. Ultimately a society of mystics that can access multiple dimensions. That can communicate telepathically. That grasps that Love is the essence of their being - and goodness must prevail. That is what You are dreaming up as Infinite Mind and that is ultimately what is destined to come to pass. Ta da!

Its possible but the only way you can discover for yourself is to experience a nondual experience. You are assuming or entertaining there are separate universes. The sheer act of looking outside instantaneously creates another universe. Its the ego that is looking ahead that is the creator. It will be a never-ending loop until you realize in full circle its you. Sure there might be aliens, and if they ever get in contact with us, despite them being more technologically advanced than us they will be more primitive compared to a human that has awakened. If they never woken up to the importance of the observer then they can be considered less advanced metaphysically and spiritually. This will hold true even if the alien race created earth and humans eons ago.

Title says it all. I feel bad. It's like promises are really bad to break, like, promises by definition do not get broken. Nobody can predict the future though, nobody I know of lol. Soo, not sure what that means in regards to promises lol... Who knows mb there is a secret law to the universe that makes it so that the promises made are ones which could actually be upheld. But what if a promise was broken more because of deliberate disregard for it rather than miscalculation of the future, like not knowing alien invasion was about to take place or that your car would be hit or something....In other words, what if a broken promise could have been saved? Does that mean the break is worse or is it like the worst thing ever either way? Anyways, I dont really know what to think or how to handle this situation. It seems serious.

Maybe this line gives a clue about what's happening in the movie: To me, it's more about perceptions and how reality could be totally different from what we're used to. Perhaps that color was an alien dimension that once perceived, it led to insanity because the brain was not accustomed to it, thus provoking some sort of collective hallucinations. But there could be multiple interpretations, hopefully someone could enlighten us about the true meaning. Edit: "The Mist" is another awesome movie about alien dimensions and absurdity of the human existence ?

I think he’d have a heart attack and die due to being unable to process the completely alien industrial technology we’ve used to terraform reality since his time

@Aquarius Yes, your poems are very weird, the execution is even weirder. Pretty sure you are an alien.

@ScholarLeo learns from all of these people. And we are currently seeing that the World has been collapsing from subtle ways to now more clearer ways. It will need to have a tipping point. We can't go on infinitely like this without any consequence inside the finite (relative domain). Karma has no escape. The mayas who where far in advancement and who could probably had alien contact in the past predicted this stuff specifically to this date as such. Are you going to blindly believe Leo's stubbornness on not acepting this posibility or are you going to humble and be open on listening to those in superior intelligence, years light ahead of wisdom than anyone can offer you here? What can you loose? You can only gain. You are looking for liberation after all. This can serve as a higher motivation. Also, there is power in belief (leap of faith). The only danger is to whom you believe, in what and how you relate to such belief. The dynamic is different. Remember, the only way Leo or anyone came to discover enligthenment/spirituality as truth was because they once risked believing in these people. "For nothing is hidden that will not be made manifest, nor is anything secret that will not be known and come to light". - Luke 8:17

I have never been to the US so I have an extremely limited perspective. One thought that came to mind recently was whether possession of guns relates to the fact that the distances between cities and villages are so big? Let's say you own a farm in the middle of no-man's land the next city and police station being hours away, does that relate to people feeling like they need a weapon in their household to protect themselves? Like some sort of residue from the Wild West? This whole notion of "I have the right and need to protect my property with a gun" is very alien to me as a European.

Interesting. Have you actually seen the shadows or you only perceived them with your minds eye? Something similar happened to me while I was half awake but it was only this perception that they were dark and attacked me from all the directions like some wild animals. Soon after, I also started feeling an alien presence. I find it fascinating that many visions are common... not only when taking DMT but in cases of sleep paralysis too.

@John Doe The problem is way worse than you think. You are right in your conclusion that it is impossible for your finite mind to love a thing unconditionally, but the real reason for this is because a finite mind must have conditions otherwise it will cease to exist. Only an infinite mind which has zero attachments is capable of unconditional love. And another word for an infinite mind with zero attachments or conditions is God. Hence God is Love, and no human will ever be as loving as God until it literally becomes God, at which point it is no long a human being. BTW, if your mind became infinite you would realize that Leo's shape is irrelevant because all form is fundamentally just a fluctuation of your own consciousness, so the issue isn't about how to love Leo when his form is totally changing but how to love YOURSELF when your form is constantly changing. Since God has no form, it is able to identify with all form and therefore love all form unconditionally no matter how much it changes. From God's POV there is literally no difference between Leo looking like a human vs Leo looking like an alien. God's love is not applied at the level of individuals or objects, it's the entire field of consciousness itself, which is ONE. You could say that the recognition that all individuals and objects are ONE field, is Love itself. You = Me = God = Love

When your love is truly unconditional, you love him whether he's Leo, a serial killer, an alien or just a thought in your mind.

In psychology, unconditional love refers to a state of mind in which the individual has the goal of increasing the welfare of another, despite any evidence of benefit for themselves. The term is also widely used in family and couples counseling manuals. Your interpretation is that unconditional love is loving somebody who transforms into something else and therefore you fail to see how someone can unconditionally love someone or something. Now instead of an alien we look at a mother and child. The child grows up and becomes a mass murderer. And as is sometimes the case the parent still loves the child - unconditional love according to your definition. If the child turns into a lizard the love doesn't apply the lizard has no attributes of the child and it is just like the child has died. (unless it's a talking lizard) Still the parents feed the lizard thinking that it might transform back to the child. Here's the better test case. The child turns out to be a psychopath and they also turn on the parents, curses them continually and threatens to kill them. Do the parents still love them? Maybe. They might think its a mental illness that can one day be healed, unconditional love at it again

@Gili Trawangan I completely agree. Yes, this is something which makes sense to me. So I'm assuming you are in agreement with the original hypothesis? @Synchronicity Got it. So when I say, "I unconditionally love Leo", I am including all Leos - alien Leos, all humans-on-planet-Earth Leos, water bottle Leos (lol) etc. In other words, any objective implication of unconditional love is, in fact, universal. So we agree objective implications are logically incorrect? Their universal alternative is the correct and only expression of unconditional love?

That’s why I said it loves all Leos It doesn’t matter if the alien is a different being than the human Leo you started with. Unconditional Love loves both

This is something I could never understand in a long time. I can see how someone can be "unconditionally loving". But I fail to see how someone can unconditionally love someone or something i.e. I don't see how unconditional love can be objective. And this boils down to a problem with identity. Let me elaborate. Consider that you, the subject, unconditionally love Leo at some timestamp T. Sometime later, assume he said something really bad to you, but you still love him because your love is unconditional. Now tomorrow, Leo uploads a video saying he was bullshitting you the entire time, that all this enlightenment stuff is nonsense - quite a radical shift in the man you thought was Leo, but you still love him. The day after, you find out that he is a raging psychopath serial killer, but you still love him, because it's unconditional. Now I will take the liberty to get a little crazier, it's a thought experiment after-all. Let's assume Leo is in-fact a shape-shifting alien, and he changes his body into that of an alien, completely unrecognizable. At this stage, both Leo's mind and body has changed completely from what it was at time T, wherein you were 'unconditionally' loving towards him. In other words, every identifying characteristic of the entity 'Leo' has completely changed. But your love is unconditional, so your are still loving towards this alien entity ... okay. Now tell me, is this entity even Leo anymore? No it's not. Leo's existence in the universe was always a conditional reality. That is, if{condition 1} AND if{condition 2} AND if{condition 3} are true, THEN "Leo Gura". It doesn't make sense to "unconditionally" do something to a conditional object. So unconditionally loving someone or something fails at the logical level. Either this, or I'm missing something super obvious.

Yeah, I think that the collective consciousness has built some rules which don't really apply to reality and limit our true potential. From my perspective, the mind is capable of infinite imagination and has unlimited power that can defy the laws of nature. You don't have to be an alien or a 4D creature to access this potential. Unfortunately, those who can break free from the matrix are very few or very lucky but together we can transcend our human condition and rewire this giant brain that we call reality ?

Tonight I dreamed of a UFO pretty much similar to the one on the top of this image, (just ignore the alien on the left side which is unrelatable with my dream), I was outside of my house yard, and suddenly I see a moving oval black shadow moving pretty fast and I recognized it as a UFO immediately, and then it exposed itself in his purest oval form with a very strong white light on the middle, and a dark blue disc surrounding, kinda like saturn, but in a plate, and it was kinda dancing and showing off all of his beauty to me. And then I remember that I was somehow mesmerized in beauty and shock, and got inside of my house and close the door, when then I feel something in my mouth, like an insect buzzing, I spit it, It's the UFO again in my mouth! It resized to the point of being capable of going inside me, then I shut the door again, and I never saw it anymore after that. When I remember the dream now, I feel a very positive energy regarding this encounter, makes me feel calm when I remember it and then looking at this image, It's like falling in love for something totally new. It's not the first time I dream about Ufo's on my yard, once I dreamed of a Triangular shaped Ufo, other time it was a very weird one that look liked a Dorito's potato and really small, or sometimes is just a very weird object that just fly's around, and always makes me feel like an Outsider. And all those times, I am trying to reach my phone or something else to show, but then I get immersed in the experience and none of that social exposure really matters. Makes me kinda tolerant to those who claim to see Ufos but lack the proofs... Nonetheless, I don't even make any assembleses with aliens and spacecrafts, the spacecraft is the Alien by it's own right, the machine is the living being, it's not like even questionable "who's driving", but rather, "This machine is alive".

This alien interviewed in 1964 https://youtu.be/ForpISHYLIg

Sadhguru is definitely just an enligthenenment marketer. His mission is just to make this posibility known to everybody and what better way than by preaching hatha yoga? He even said it. He planned his way before introducing himself into the world. He has studied many past leaders such as Jesus, ghandi and osho and skipped many of their mistakes in order to succeed. And we can clearly see he is being very succesful. The fact that he uses such clothes, long beard, fame and money are crucial aspects for lower conscious minds paying attention to him. Thats how attraction works. And I think he is going to try becoming India president at some point. Thats why he does all he does and is into politics. I had a random dream of him becoming the president which I hope may come true if he aspires for it. Theres no way to really judge his levels of conciousness than by having an interview with him. I think he is one of the most awoken right now. I won't be surprised to know he has psychic abilities, works with entities of higher dimensions or channels or might have even contacted an alien. The fact that Ralston students are morons, leaves no exceptions for all of us in here. But thats okay, I know what you mean. And, have you known of anyone that has done 5meo or the other psychedelic you said is more powerful, after already being liberated? I think thats the most accurate way to explore conciousness and im excited to try that aswell. @Leo Gura

Hi guys, First time posting here. Just want to share some of the more challenging experiences that come up through using psychedelics. After my 10th ceremony with Ayahuasca I was carried out of the Peruvian jungle on a stretcher to a hospital in Inquitos. From my perspective I was discovering/experiencing the Infinite Self but the facilitators and doctors were concerned enough by my behavior to prescribe me anti-psychotic medication. I took it for a few days then made my way back to my home country. A few months later I was smoking weed with my fiancé in Germany which triggered a similar awakening. From my perspective I had woken up into buddha/God consciousness but my girlfriend was concerned by my strange behavior and called an ambulance. At the hospital it seemed everyone I met was God or some kind of spiritual guide and I was meant to be there as some kind of lesson. I was sectioned for a month in a foreign country and given anti-psychotic medication. After a month I was allowed to leave and return home. Back home I was struggling with extremely stressful family and relationship issues. I stopped taking my medication and as my relationship began to fall apart I had a complete emotional breakdown and my experience of reality became very unusual to say the least. (Believing I had to complete spiritual trials/contact with alien intelligence) My parents eventually called an ambulance And once again I was sent to a psychiatric ward for a month and medicated. I thought I was being driven to the Hospital by Eve and Buddha. These events had a devastating effect on my family and myself. My parents found out I had smoked weed and insisted I brake off all contact with my fiance. I was crying to the point of screaming at the pain of the loss. I’ve never experienced anything so painful. I still live with the pain of that loss and the resulting loneliness. My doctor tells me I will have to take a relatively low dose of anti-psychotic medication for at least two years. I have suicidal thoughts almost every day. I meditate each day and arrive at the Bliss, Joy & Peace of awareness. Its a strange contrast to live with each day. One moment, perfectly content, another moment looking for a final way out. One day I was out walking, fully aware that this is Nirvana. Another day on my knees, screaming and crying. I have weekly therapy sessions now and talking through everything that has happened with someone trained to listen is a huge help. A painful lesson I learned was how selfish I had been to not fully consider all the ways my use of psychedelics could effect my loved ones. Fortunately we have been able to work at repairing the damage that was caused but it takes a long time to recover. I really don’t know if sharing this will be of help to anyone. I have both benefited greatly and suffered greatly from the effect of these powerful substances (ayahuasca, mushrooms, weed, lsd) and I’m not here to tell anyone what choice to make. I didn’t know what unconditional love was until my first ayahuasca experience and I never knew how deeply I could love until I felt the full pain of loss. One thing to be aware of is the context in which one can have these awakening experiences. The consequences of your resulting actions will depend on the country you happen to be in and the people you are surrounded by at the time. I lost my physical freedom for a period of time. I have no way of knowing if I was lucky or unlucky to have been taken to hospital and medicated. Perhaps it is pointless to imagine what could have happened in a different setting. It seems we each have painful periods in our journeys. Part of me hopes by sharing this story I can somehow help someone else avoid such pain. I don’t know if that’s possible but I know I have benefited from hearing the accounts of others

More random insights: - Leo's simple rule for acing life -- always doing the most emotionally difficult thing in any given situation -- is only partially true. Like all dualities, difficult-easy is ultimately one and the same thing: Love. The insight to be gained here is to see that everytime a person does something 'emotionally easy', like ordering a pizza or watching Netflix, they do it because they are not 'whole' inside. They play PC-games, have sex, watch porn, eat junk-food, stay on social media on their phone, watch cat-videos, because they can sense they are not whole, and that 'sensing of not-wholeness' does NOT feel nice! And when they then do these 'easy activities' -- often unhealthy physically and mentally -- they momentarily forget that unpleasent sensation and get lost in what they are doing (watching cat videoes for example). They temporaiily forget themselves. It's symptomp-relief. Like giving a depressive person SSRi. It works, but not really. It doesn't *solve* the actual root issue of not feeling 'w-h-o-l-e'. Which is funny, cos' then you see it is God forgetting -> human forgetting -> lost in the moment of doing the easy activity -> relief/temporarily in some kind of God-consciousness (no worries) -> as soon as the activity stops (you realize you have to make dinner to yourself and get some sleep, so you close the YouTube-app on your phone) you get back to egoic consciousness of not feeling whole (but instead feeling lost and separate as this "poor little me"-body-mind-person). When you finally become 100% whole -- like I have become -- you can still do all kinds of "easy" "unhealthy" activites but you do it out of your own free will and not out of not feeling whole, cos you already feel whole! It's like a ice cream cone. Most people are cones with not enough ice inside the cone. They are not whole (i.e. they don't know they are God, i.e. they have not enough Self-Love in their body-mind-vessel). Therefore they do all kinds of activities to temporarily fill up the cone with icecream. But the ice melts again because it's warm outside. And you don't realize that the warmth around you is yourself. I.e. it is yourself melting your icecream away. hahahaha . Anyway when you finally become whole/enlightened it's like you are a ice cream cone filled up with ice that cannot melt anymore. You are harmony itself. Basically my point is, when you see your God, you also see that the "easy thing to do" and the "hard thing to do" are one and the same thing. hahaha <3 It's one. You've always done the right thing, cos you've been God all the time, and God never makes mistakes, only on purpose, but then it's not a mistake per defintion. xDDDDDDDDDD - I think many people, when they hear the words "It's all me, it's all my doing. I'm God and everything is God. When my mom knocks on my door it's myself knocking on my own door" they sort of believe that I mean this only in some symbolic sense, and that I truly still differentiate between "myself" and "my mother" (or any other stranger who might knock on my door for some reason). But listen up: No I don't. Haha. The most true thing to say with our language is to say that my mom knocking on my door is myself knocking my own door. I am my mother. I am everyone. I am God. - Language is a funny thing. Language is a technology. We have created languages in the West where we have nouns and verbs. Nouns do verbs. Things "do". But in actuality this is just a game we're playing. A language game. There are no things in reality. There is only patterns. The music. Reality/God can best be described as an infinitely complex endless musical happening. There are truly no actual "things" in the world. Only doings. Only dance/music/patterns/vibrations. On/off , on /off, on/off. Look at a river or a candle burning. That river or that candle can teach you everything about reality if you study it deeply enough. Cos you can easily see in a river that the river is not a thing. There is no river! Just flow. Same goes for the candle burning in the wind. - picture yourself setting in your living room and 2 meters south from is a chair with your friend sitting on it. You will be tempted to say "I am here and 2 meters from me is my friend, there". But may I ask, what about the 2 meters of space between 'you' and 'friend' ??? See, most people -- cos they are surviving machines -- only focuses on what is essential to their own survival, biological and socially. They filter everything else out. For example space. Literal space. For most people space doesn't exist. It's not a thing. It's "nothingness". It's non-being. Which is just a plain stupid line of thinking, if you think about it Because these 2 meters of space between 'you' and 'your friend' is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL in order for you to even have a concept of yourself and 'friend'. Without the space between yourself and your friend there wouldn't be any friend sitting over there. The space is essential. So the duality, space--things, must also collapse. Space and things are One. You can't have one without the other! Just like foreground and background! Like the front of a a bike and the back of a plain regular bike. if you cut the bike in half and say "here is the front of the bike" and "here is the back of the bike", you are right. But where is the bike now? It's gone. Because you need the front and the back together to get the bike. Also realize to say "this is the front of the bike" and "this is the back of the bike" is only possible because you already have a concept of what an actual bike is. If you went to an alien and said "here is the front of the bike" and "here is the back of the bike" he would look at you and ask "what the fuck is a bike?". In EXACTLY the same way you need space and things TOGETHER, ALWAYS, in order to know what space and things is. "Space" and "things" arise simultaneously. You can't have one without the other. It's all one! The same infinite complex musical pattern/happening! Love! The Tao! You see, just by using common sense I have now shown you that 'you' and 'other' are the same Oneness/Self. You and your friend sitting 2 meters away from you are identical, one, the same. No difference. The Self imagining itself to be separate beings. That's all there is happening. Doing it out of Love to Itself. You can't have one without the other. This goes for everything. Light, darkness, life, death. Yet many people consciously or unconsciously believe that it is possible to have one without the other. They believe it is: - possible to have things without space - possible to have space without things - possible to have 'self' without 'other' - possible to have 'other' without 'self' - possible to have 'life' without 'death' - possible to have 'death' without 'life' Also look at the problem of free will and the problem of personality. An ordinary person will say it was his doing if he hammers a nail into his wall. "I hammered the nail into my wall". If the next day a lightning strikes down into his house and puts in on fire, he will say "There was a thunderstorm today that stroke a lightning right down and burned my house to the ground. Poor fucking me! I hope my insurance will pay" . A truy awake person would say: "I consciously hammered this nail into this wall yesterday and today I somehow managed to unconsciously put my house on fire by making a lightning strike down on it from the thunderstorm". hehe. You see, the differentiation between what you call "your own conscious voluntary will" and "something that happens to me" is actually pretty arbitrary. This duality must also collapse. It's all your doing. Or it is not your doing at all. Haha In another sense it's not arbitrary. It's linked to survival. You make the distinction between 'your own doing' and 'what happens to me' because it makes you exist as a person. And you need to survive, you are programmed to survive. That's your ego. Your ego = believing you are a 'poor little me' somehow stuck in a hostile environment. This duality of free will vs not-free-will is what in fact creates your sense of personality/false self. You see, if everything was your own free will, you wouldn't exist as a person anymore, but only as God/Love. This is what happens momentarily during peak mystical experiences / psychedelic peak experiences. And this is also what happens when you die. You become Infinite Freedom, infinite Love, God, Infinite Wholeness, Oneness. And if everything wasn't your free will at all, then you wouldn't exist as a person anymore, but only as Nothingness. This is where "you were" before you were born. Or at least before you imagined yourself as a "human poor little me" (happens probably around age ~2, cos this is where children start to have self-image of themselves as existing independently of the outside world, haha). Nothingness = God = Love <3 <3 <3

Last night I dreamed that a grey alien dreamed all my life and when I zoomed on its head, I woke up. It scared the shit out of me because for a moment I wondered what if I'm that grey alien dreaming about being a stupid human?

@Serotoninluv Can a person with a severe mental disorder, in such a state of consciousness unable to voice his/her thought to another, be able to vote for a politician? Can a person in a vegetable state (coma), vote? Can a person vote under a life and death situation? If a person has given a vote, but under duress to do so(blackmailed, threatened to vote, e.c.t) be considered a vote? To the OP, when I addressed the could've, I meant it in such extreme circumstances that the person cannot vote, absolutely cannot vote without risk of life. While we're talking about politics, we also have animal rights issues. Do they have a right to vote? What about the A.I program that can speak, that was given American citizenship? Regarding would've, a choosing, that is interesting, because if you don't want to vote, can you don't want to vote? In a dictatorship? A tribe? An alien planet? The astral realms? And I'm interested in the OP's motivations for this thread.