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One of these days, I will talk about manifesting and if there is any validity to it, and if it's just part of the dream, yes, you, Mr. Neville Goddard, I will talk about you. Yes, there are a lot of YouTubers making money from his teachings, and you as well, the Reddit group, you little cretins. Yes, it is and feels totally alien from being a human. God is an infinite question/mystery unto itself. Or is it? Have you noticed on this forum that some people have been told the truth, but then they forget and keep asking the same question over and over again? Talk about Groundhog Day. Maybe god divided itself as a form of experiment into separate consciousness to see if each one comes up with the same stuff at the same time, or to see what each individual one comes up with with different ideas. God would experiment upon itself. And would new insights be generated? Would the parts be greater than the whole, bringing new ideas of what consciousness is? You are consciousness, but what really is it? An infinite mind, a sentient being, but you see, these are just words. Words can not do justice to what you are. Now, there would likely be infinite states of consciousness, which I have said before. I wrote this for fun. There is no enlightenment to be had; it's part of the dream/ illusion. You must have noticed by now that you keep telling people what it's all about, but they keep reverting back to the same old notion. It's so obvious. Buddhism must be one of the hardest things to break out of, I guess, so is religion. Religion and spirituality are all nonsense. I knew this without having to take any psychedelics. Even the hobo down the street gets this, and he never went to school. It's like a recursive reclusion. Tuesday, which is tomorrow, I will go for my fourth ketamine infusion. I hope they don't up the dose again above 60mg. How the hell can you use this drug in a recreational place while dancing? When I did have the higher dose, when I closed my eyes, I could see blue patterns this time instead of red, and no, they were not like fractal geometry, whatever that means, I have no idea, as well as memory loss while I was on it. I guess I will find out tomorrow. One of the most intense trips on ketamine today, and it was the same dose, 60mg. I woke up as God and became the Godhead, and I felt infinite Love. Had that amnesia again, it's quite bizarre. I would have to say Ketamine is not one of my favs. It feels wonky, not smooth, unclear I don't know how to put it Gutless spineless pawn.

From Alexa: That sounds like a profound shift in your self-perception, When we discover something fundamental about ourselves, it can feel like we're suddenly inhabiting unfamiliar territory - even within our own minds. This kind of existential awakening often comes with that disorienting "alien" sensation because you're seeing yourself through completely different eyes.

Do not. Fucken sick of the shit coming out these days. Fucking sick of these space witch girl-boss mary-sue characters. Same shit as the Alien: Earth females. Characters like Ripley from the Alien series were such huge inspirations for me because she wielded femininity in a really inspiring way - through action. Motherhood. Protection. But with strength that didn't need to rofl-stomp masculinity and masculine characters. The women in films these days are simply wooden planks on screen and made to be successful & celebrated for just BEING females. Like that is so amazing they were born with a mut? Rather than what the DO to wield positive feminine traits. I had free tickets. I went in with low low expectations. Only to have my neck broken from the whiplash action you cannot focus on and a sterilized vasectomy of a storyline. Anyway, thanks for listening I feel better after emptying that out I admit I was semi-lured in because of Nine Inch Nails. *spits*

@Leo Gura Thank God I'm not the only one who wishes that was what the Alien movies explored hahah so much untapped potential.

To be honest I relate to a lot written here and have even experienced this myself through my self inquiry and life events unfolding (except the alien stuff mentioned). I will say this, why choose to create fear? If you are not a human (this is sort of like a set of clothes), what’s so wrong with that? I just don’t see any point in creating fear. It’s understandable and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it though. A military UAV (I’m in Russia) exploded by my building today. I chose fear so damn fast. I don’t think I’ve created so much fear in my life, maybe one other time on my ayahuasca trip. it was as if I felt worthless and like I’d have been better off if the bomb dropped on me, like I lacked value and was cut off form everything. After taking some time to breathe and going for a walk to calm down I noticed the pattern. This human side we have wants to rush to be small or little or blunt itself from what you guys are calling infinity, because in a mistaken way of reasoning it thinks it can keep itself safe in a childlike innocent way by making itself small. The truth is nothing can ever diminish us even if some challenge does indeed come along which hurts our body or affects our lives in a way that’s uncomfortable. We are born with innate value. You can become directly aware of it: it’s hard to put into words but it’s sort of like you become aware that you are beaming down from heaven where nothing can or will ever hurt you. There’s nothing to really fear about what you call infinity, I call the Tao, but from our human life there are things which do threaten us. So all we have to do is lovingly guide this side, let the infinity lead. This is where life becomes peaceful and acceptance comes in, and you can accept with grace even if it is no easy feat that you could have your life end due to a bomb dropping on you. I feel much better now, I’ll be fine beyond this life

No. I pick it because it is truly alien. It is more alien than a green man from Mars. You don't even know how alien things can get. Aleinness is not about creatures from other planets. That is superficial. Alienness is alienness. I am talking about pure Alienness! Imagine pure Alienness. Imagine something so alien you don't even understand what it is as you look at it.

This is false. What you call "absolutely conscious" is still a low degree of consciousness even though it is absolute. That is not a contradiction. All states of consciousness are absolute, even the low ones. That doesn't mean you are seriously conscious. Consciousness of the Absolute is easy. I am pointing beyond that. And yes, there is a beyond. No. This is not about sematics or language. Enlightenment is low consciousness. Period. Higher consciousness exists. You are missing this consciousness. Which is why I keep pointing to it. If I didn't point to it none of you would know it exists. I am pointing to something which nobody knows exists. For example, nobody here knows that Alien Consciousness exists.

People mostly associate the word "alien" with possible non-earthly creatures instead of foreign, strange, weird, bizarre, unusual, etc., experiences. Did you pick the word "alien" because it sounds better with the word "consciousness"?

Alien Consciousness is not about aliens or UFOs.

I'm still waiting for the day Leo will reveal to us that he is actually an alien from a far away galaxy that has came here to cure us of our backwardness. I have this thought ever since Leo became all of a sudden interested in UFO's & alien consciousness.

That's how I used to feel about it too, prior to my medicine journey where it showed me that there was so much that was positive and superior in beauty on the other side of embracing my ordinary side. I'm picking on you about this because I think your resistances to average-ness are holding you back from your stated spiritual goals.... and that your goals towards seeking Truth may partially be a cover for your resistance to average-ness. You have to be able to kiss the frog to experience the higher state of the prince. You may be motivated to transcend the 'human smallness' through enlightenment because that is another way of creating a differentiated ego and setting yourself aside from all other humans because other humans are the frogs. But that motivation would just be an outgrowth of the same human smallness and non-Truth that you're seeking to get away from... and would make you just another frog. So, even your resistance to ordinariness is a really normal and average human condition. I've experienced it... and many of my clients over the years have too. It's very ordinary to want to not be ordinary and to hate mediocrity. And because specialness is power... t's nearly impossible to truly cast away that "ring of power". So, when you make a show of "I'm one of the rare special ones who can ACTUALLY cast the one ring into Mordor." forgive me if I'm skeptical and poke at you a bit. If what I have glimpsed is true, God is one that can embrace all things completely and staying with the reality of being God requires such an embrace of all polarities along all spectrums in the everythingness (as that is what Love is)... how can you expect to stay with the Truth that you are God, if you can't even accept the inescapable ordinary averageness of the Leo character? That resistance alone will keep you clinging to the ego story of "Leo, the special alien." And yes, I do still have a resistance to malice and that which causes suffering that sometimes gets in the way of my goals. But I've been working for several years on breaking down my resistance to ordinariness. But those resistances used to be almost equal. I couldn't tolerate blending in with the crowd in nearly similar to the resistance to causing suffering. That's the big boss level resistance for me. But the truth is that every human is fundamentally ordinary, you included. And aging alone will rob you of all relative specialness that you currently enjoy. Can you accept that truth?

It means that people who speak about nonduality are in lower states of consciousness than what is possible. You are getting too pedantic about words. Words are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is that you understand that there exist much higher states of consciousness than your current state. Stop acting like what I am saying is so paradoxical and confusing. It isn't. It is so clear a child could understand me. Ant >> rat >> chimp >> human >> nondual human >> alien >> God level 1 >> God level 2 >> God level 3 >> etc When you make any argument to me, that is coming from your existing state of consciousness. Your arguments have zero validity in higher states. This includes all arguments made by nondualists and Buddhists and enlightened people. Literally nothing you say matters because none of it exists at a higher state. If you do not understand this, I don't know how to help you.

Well he just came out praising Alien: Earth. So there's that 'Congratulations to Noah, cast, and team on the massivelyCongratulations to Noah, cast, and team on the massively successful foray into the Alien universe with Alien: Earth. When I created this world almost 50 years ago, I could never have imagined that it would continue to resonate so strongly with audiences around the world decades later. It's particularly exciting to learn that younger generations who are embracing Alien: Earth are going back to our film to see where it all began. The cinematic designs still look sharp 46 years later. Such a clever re-use of the original sets. I bloody drew them personally back in the day. The chamber of computers, Mother's womb, the corridors—it's incredible to see how Noah has embraced these trademark Alien elements while bringing something new for the fans. And as writing is the most challenging part of any production experience, it all follows from there. Noah has kept the beast alive, and dripping scare the hell out of us for some time longer. A big thank you to John Landgraf, his excellent team at FX for all their brilliant work on this new series. Scream away, no one will hear you. successful foray into the Alien universe with Alien: Earth. When I created this world almost 50 years ago, I could never have imagined that it would continue to resonate so strongly with audiences around the world decades later. It's particularly exciting to learn that younger generations who are embracing Alien: Earth are going back to our film to see where it all began. The cinematic designs still look sharp 46 years later. Such a clever re-use of the original sets. I bloody drew them personally back in the day. The chamber of computers, Mother's womb, the corridors—it's incredible to see how Noah has embraced these trademark Alien elements while bringing something new for the fans. And as writing is the most challenging part of any production experience, it all follows from there. Noah has kept the beast alive, and dripping scare the hell out of us for some time longer. A big thank you to John Landgraf, his excellent team at FX for all their brilliant work on this new series. Scream away, no one will hear you.' - Ridley Scott They probably should have kept with the themes of body horror, rape, forced impregnation and violation that the original HR Giger themes revolved around.

Ridley Scott's themes suck. He tries to get all philosophical about it but it just comes off amateurish and ruins what should be a simple Giger monstrosity show. Androids ruined the entire Alien franchise. It should be a show about Xenomorphs and their horrific ancient homeworld. The xenomorph lore and homeworld should be along the lines of the game Scorn. Not generic human hi-tech sci-fi tripe. A proper Alien sequel must involve exploring the lore of the xenomorph homeworld, which is an HR Giger biomechncial horror world where no amount of human technology lets humans survive.

Here is a video essay on alien franchise that outlines several reoccouring themes, a struggle of ego and technology and corporacracy intertwined, though Ridley Scot had his own biblical musings tied in and perhaps giving other vibe and perhaps more depth to his depictions

@DodoI dont trust a man that dosent tear up once when talking about God. Except Bashar cause hes an alien and he cant cry.

Uhhh... Rupert Spira is just sane... He is my favourite nonduality teacher actually. You will get no bs from him. This alien consciousness stuff is bs, its Daryl all him, he's just playing a role... its just his style of teaching, to his audience. Not everyone is for Rupert Spira retreats, and not everyone is for Bashar. They have different type of audience. I am not interested in Bashar talks, not nondual enough 😀 i like someone saying that the knower and the known are made of the same knowing. Im not into solipsism, im into nonduality. Not talking about one mind, but one consciousness. Minds are collection of thoughts perceptions/conceptions [aka movements of consciousness] within consciousness, mind is not consciousness.

@DodoI think he is a solipsist. Id argue bashar would say in order to get alien powers you need to be a solipsist. How is Bashar talking to Daryl? His own mind and Bashars own mind. The people who say its not solipsism are judging the word. The word means its all in mind specifically yours cause everyone and everything is in your mind. It dosent mean you have to be mean like people automatically assume. You can still be yourself and talk to yourself in your mind we do it all day. When you see Rupert Spira have such a negative reaction to the word you know hes a sick fuck. If you discovered God was like a television with infinite channels and realised you could just change the channel and the experience you had of every person in the room suddenly dissapeared and new people appeared in a new room. Then you switched back and they were still moving and talking and your body was still moving and talking, would you assume there are other people? Theres no way to know. So its automatically yes because you only have experience of yourself.

Wanted to dedicate a thread for real examples of serious people doing serious spirituality. I’ll start with mine. I’ll keep it concise. 10/11/25: At-Home Meditation Retreat Started at 8am with meditation for a 2 hour sit. The main techniques used were breath awareness, open awareness, and light self-inquiry. I took a brief break to use the bathroom and adjust myself. I returned and continued for another 2 hours focusing on stillness leading up to self-inquiry. The main questions contemplated were “What am I, What is Consciousness?” I kept my consciousness on the awareness that I am the entire room. Thoughts of media and videogames kept distracting my attention and I kept returning back to breath and self-inquiry. I had the insight just how much influence the media has had over my mind and how much garbage and past relationships my mind is focused on. Took another break for lunch and just stared at my hands while contemplating consciousness. My hands started to look alien. I kept my awareness on the field of consciousness. Whenever my mind wandered, I returned back to the questions of “What is consciousness? How does this hand exist at all?” Additional questions came up such as “Why does consciousness exist at all?” “How did consciousness decide to experience/create my current life?” Took another brief break and spent the next 2 hours in a dark room in my closet and continued my previous meditation techniques. Nothing new happened here but more mind wandering. Took a break for a brief snack and returned to meditation. I sat for another couple hours and after a while my mind got still. I started feeling love and joy going through every cell of my being. I started having a big smile on my face that I couldn’t resist. It felt like I was on mushrooms for a moment. I started to feel satisfied with my own mind in pure existence. I tried to keep this awareness for as long as I could. My legs started to fall asleep so I had to do some walking meditation for a bit which got me out of that state. I spent the rest of the time contemplating existential topics such as death, eternity, the first cause, time, memory, and my purpose. At around 7pm I couldn’t keep focus anymore and so I decided to end it for today. My main takeaways is how much noise and garbage filled my mind. My mind resisted stillness in the form of thoughts about media and entertainment. I also realized how much I do love my mind because I was able to think creative thoughts and have insights. Other insights I had is that I am imagining time, memory, and the past. The past and memory are nothing but a construction of consciousness. I realized deeper that my consciousness is creating everything I see and hear in a similar way it creates thought/imagination. I also realized that I need to practice meditation more often and that I have been mistreating my mind. Thats all for now.

Any path that leads to peace is good. If I could understand Arabic i would read the actual works of Khalil Gibran, Also for most people it makes sense to stay close to your source, language and culture has an intricate way of seeping into one's DNA and foreign ideologies remain Alien to a certain extent no matter how deeply you incorporate them. It looks like a show or an act for some reason. The truth is in you, just use the tools that are closest to you, don't go too far.

As I grow older and mature more, more and more people slowly drop out of my life. Less and less new people I find interesting. And so, as an extrovert, I am really glad there is a place like this to socialize, crack some Alien dad jokes, and share some deep thoughts. Deeply appreciate ya’ll, and thank you Leo for hosting this for us.

Lmao sure. I haven't watched those videos, you can go find them yourself if you're genuinely curious and not simply trying to "hah I won the argument because he didn't use the YouTube search bar for me". Rupert Spira sells enlightenment. He does events. But this is still just weak "making money on enlightenment means conman". Inb4 Leo drops the newest course on Alien Awakening or whatever. I don't know what that means. Everybody is skeptical about Tolle, he is like the scapegoat for guru skeptics.

Um.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_(philosophy) The essence of the ring (appearance) is gold (Absolute). But the essence of gold (Absolute) is not the ring (appearance). "In philosophy (often specifically metaphysics), the absolute,[a] in most common usage, is a perfect, self-sufficient reality that depends upon nothing external to itself.[2] In theology, the term is also used to designate the supreme being or God. While the notion of the absolute varies across traditions and thinkers, it generally signifies something that transcends all forms of limitation, relativity, and contingency" I guess appearance depends upon "something/nothing/THAT"... Take away appearance, and THAT remains... The Reality of appearance is "the" Absolute. The Reality of "the" Absolute is not the appearance. Of course, emptiness is form, and form is emptiness. But appearance, or illusion, is.... not quite the "self-sufficient reality that depends upon nothing external to itself". Because its, um, temporary. Reality = permanent. Or maybe there is some realization which you have not yet had about "that" which watches the whole Ant/Human/Alien/God gig.... Who knows? But you do you, and I do.... apparently also you. Ain't "we" are having fun. Uhum. Btw., in case you guys start a discussion about Solipsism during the gig in the usual forum style, I guess even the Godess doesn't want to miss that. Something for WbtRs Bucket List for this lifetime: 10 tripping ladies & gentlemen in a nondual boundless state with remaining egos "residual-individuality-arisings" discussing with each other which one is now the One (and only). A pity heretics like poor me probably won't get admitted. Did you notice that your event is also in the (literally) Selling Water by the River business, as in Well, its an honourable endeavour, at least if not approached too seriously - because of the absolutely hilarious nature of the self-contradictory gig if taken too seriously. So I wish you and all participants good luck in not getting into too serious solipsistic discussions during the event while tripping & selling Water by the River. My recommendation would be: Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses by the River

Your consciousness yes. But that consciousness is not the Absolute, it is a mere appearance. Ant and Ant consciousness arising, Human and human consciousness arising, Alien and Alien consciousness arising. Arising/appearing in THAT. YOU are aware of it. Aware of the Ant, of Leo, of the Alien. That which is truly aware, which is truly the Absolute Subject, the Ultimate Looker, never changes. No moving parts. Selling "no moving parts makes maintenance free" by the River

Ain't we I You God Leo It THAT Clap of the one Hand having fun? Yes, according to pretty much all OBElers yes (I like Jürgen Ziewe). And why not? Makes the game a bit more juicy. Leo can become his alien, but maybe after another few lifes have thaught him that considering the zombies rats rodents fellow childen of his own Being a little bit more benevolent. Like, a Kindergarten-planet with many many growing children eager to learn, each with its own curriculum and needs.... And planet Earth can provide lessons Leos idea that everbody ending up as stable Infinity upon death is in contradiction to all OBElers having explored the Afterlife Realms. Why should the 2nd grader suddenly get its PHd - sounds a bit traumatizing, and robbing the poor chap its wonderful journey through school and college. We shall all see... That is the one thing in life that is totally assured: The final out of body experience. Nobody gets left behind. Anyways, where have we been... Ah, yes: The only "thing" that cares about ignorance (ignorance defined as seeing any arising/appearance as "other") being gone forever is.... ignorance-arisings. So maybe, when the Avatar is developed enough, after maybe having been an angel, a planetery consciousness, or a being that spawns a whole Universe in its being/perspective, and n+1 .... becoming a bit more stupid and ignorant again becomes quite very attractive? Ever had the feeling that THIS was a really interesting dream the night before, totally bought into its exciting (although totally ignorant with lots of "other") story? That you would miss something if that was no longer possible again (ever)? As Francis Lucille once said: Ignorance is only a bad idea from the perspective of ignorance. As Consciousness/Being/Reality: Who cares? Nothing to loose.... And, from a personal perspective: Nothing can ever truly happen to True Being. Neither loose, neither gain. Ignorant or not, even the ignorance is only arising, never have I been that. Ever. THAT is always right here, ever was, ever will be, can not not be. There never was anything beyond a mere illusion-arising appearing to believe in ignorance/other. Was never truly the case. Can never be. But how tremendously beautiful that ignorance/other arising is even possible! Enjoying looking forward to this life, the realms beyond, an alien or two, the planet-gig, assembling this or that realm, and then maybe enjoying another juicy drama of ignorance all of over again. And all of that words/meanings are just ripples on the mere appearing surface of the River, which in Reality doesn't move, become or change in the slightest. PS: I know. Blah Blah Blah. But: There is good Blah Blah Blah, and bad Blah Blah Blah. Blah Blah good? (the no-foreign-language-warning-point fraction may be so kind to click on auto-translate. Gracie!)