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People need teachers we're they're at on a relative level. It's like a noob listening to Leo talk about alien consciousness who hasn't even had a mystical experience, It's only going to add conceptual baggage that elongates the awakening process. Angelo dilluro is another great teacher for this. There is absolutely nothing I have heard from Fred Davis that will pollute the mind more than Leo talking about his awakening experiences. You realize most people here don't even use psychedelics right?

I have been thinking a lot lately about the technology of Alien Spaceships, and since they travel faster than the speed of light and also are anti-gravity, I thought their entire manufacturing process could even start in higher frequencies/planes. Frequencies so high that go beyond the physical reality as we know it. And since all planes are deeply interconnected and correspond to each other, I thought it would be cool to start that process by creating a Drone in the mind field and programming it with the mind such that it would correspond to both lower and higher planes at will. The tragedy here is that, even though at higher levels of consciousness the boundaries between mind at matter collapse, we live in a world where there are not many people who would be willing to have their minds stuffed out, and this technology could be an antidote to that.

@Swarnim Your welcome. Thank you for your open mind It’s not really a physical connection at all. It’s more of a mental/spiritual connection of identity. You could say it’s dissolved by observation or simply by increasing your degree of consciousness. Which also involves a shift in values beyond human values and a shift in identity beyond human identity. A strong connection would be a traditional human or normie as some like to call them. They are very heavily identified with being a human and are greatly involved in human affairs. They are quite mesmerized by the dream and strongly tethered to this world through their thoughts and beliefs systems. A light connection would be closer to the mystic or sage. They are less in their body and the dream is more wispy for them. Their identity is expanded and the tethers to humanity are more dissolved. When the connection is gone then you’re dead ha ha. The dream is melted away entirely and you cannot directly interact with it anymore. Dead people don’t have much of an identification with humanness at all ? Even advanced mystics that have supposedly “detached entirely” are still hanging on by a thin string If their consciousnesses vehicle (which we would normally ascribe human characteristics to) is alive and well and able to interface with our society. What I meant by that bit you quoted is that certain extreme spiritual practices like the ones I am describing( I refer to it as Singularity Shamanism) leave one consistently in a very radical state. Your center of gravity then becomes so different from most humans that it becomes hard to relate socially, difficult to run your business and even just to play the survival game. The jellyfish cares greatly about connecting with humans and helping humans connect with each other. Although its methods of connection are so alien that none consciously recognize it and this type of connection most likely won’t help with financial success, social status or even long term survival chances. You end up being more connected with humanity’s subconscious, super conscious, hidden suffering that no one cares to discuss, and everyone’s transcendental infinite identity. All the while being greatly disconnected from the surface personalities of the conscious mind. In many ways this makes your relationship with strangers equal to those of your own immediate family ? One of the primary values of nearly all humans is to master the survival game. When the value structures within consciousness evolve past this then survival isn’t seen to be an issue at all or even important/necessary. It then takes immense work and constant effort to stay grounded and to just stick around and not float away haha. It comes at you from all sides, not just mentally and spiritually but also physically. Each wave of evolving values leads to greater interconnections being made in the mind and requires an increased consciousness current flowing through the bodily system to be able to maintain this expanded viewpoint. If one crosses the threshold of having more in common with alien jellyfish values than human values, there will naturally be an enormous consciousness current to support this, Which appears to put an intense strain upon the human nervous system; overloading it like sending a lightning bolt through a lightbulb. Also I’m not really talking about a burned out hippie who is voluntarily taking too much acid and smoke too much weed ha ha. It’s that somehow the default structures of the brain have changed and created a circumstance where the pineal gland is pumping out like 5 to 10 times the usual amount of DMT. It’s not trippy as much as it is pristinely clear and luminously lucid.(I did this accidentally by the way. If it were up to me I would’ve taken it slower but the jellyfish had other plans ?) Also I remembered another film that portrays the human Hyper-nova very well. “Lucy” With Scarlett Johansson. It’s pretty accurate with the visuals but also the thought process and emotions that come up during this event. I seem to be experiencing something similar although not quite to that extreme. ☮️?✨

Lol nah I don't take any of that serious because I already died and saw the veil behind the curtain. This just lets him know by their responses who has done the work or not. You do not live in an objective reality, your reality is subjective. Which means....the only way Leo can turn into an Alien...is if YOU imagine he does. Think of it like this... what determines if someone is RIGHT or not from your POV...? YOUR POV determines who is right or wrong, good or bad, this has always been the case...and it will always be the case. So if from your POV YOU determine the state of the world....then doesn't that make you GOD? So how can Leo turn into an Alien....unless you AS GOD imagine that he does? You constructed Leo....Leo isn't some other....he is a dream character, a thought within your mind. So unless your desire is to see him turn into an Alien....its not happening. It does actually....Love, Truth, and Intelligence are ONE. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-universe-is-not-locally-real-and-the-physics-nobel-prize-winners-proved-it/ These people won the Nobel Prize....for proving from the longest, most indirect path....what Non-Duality says. This discovery was made 5000 years ago and now they are patting themselves on the back....as if what they discovered was something NEW. The biggest puzzle is the building block of reality, what reality is made of. The only way to discover this is to be willing to DIE, drop all identity, and discover that everything is YOU. The most intelligent minds in human history couldn't discover this due to BIAS, which is a lack of self-love. If you haven't figured out...that the highest intelligence is the ability to see your projections...to notice your biases and thus be able to see the interconnectedness of everything....then I don't know what to tell you. By understanding Non-Duality...if you truly get it...you have become one of the smartest humans that has ever lived. Majority of humanity...is going to TAKE A LONG TIME...to awaken to the fact that they are dreaming their entire life. There is no discovery....more profound than this.

the way people suddenly are weaponizing their ideas of science against Leo now just because of this alien awakening topic is kinda disheartening to me, Why’s it gotta be science why can’t it be direct perception of reality without a mediator? I would argue that consensus would not be the place to look, Your assuming that’s more fundamental for truth when it’s not, You gotta be the truth to perceive the truth, Otherwise it will just be an empty message and you will hallucinate that there was nothing there when the message contained everything you needed you just weren’t paying attention, But we will see in the future if Leo’s proof is satisfactory, Still won’t change my absolute experience, Sure of it. Absolute definitely comes first than alien if Leo’s videos become more about alien than absolute then that will draw some objections from me but I mean he hasn’t given us any ideas yet maybe he will give us scientific explanations but I wouldn’t count on it just because your expectations want that, That isn’t more truthful if we had a scientist validate it since the scientist or culture could be wrong, So could Leo but also so could the culture judging Leo. Don’t drown in your bias you guys you will see whether this is satisfactory or not in the end, assuming you really care about truth you will be able to sort the wheat from the chaff, Don’t believe Leo but also don’t believe your ideas of what truth ought to show up in. The concept of alien doesn’t ring my truth bell immediately so I will definitely be curious to see where these ideas really lead to,if anywhere hopefully something really enriching and truthful, If they aren’t then I will just stick to my already absolute experience as it always is unaffected by other peoples concepts whether relatively right or wrong they may be… I am not in favor of either Leo or the skeptics of Leo who think he should be more scientific and non psychotic by the consensus standards, Leo may not be psychotic don’t just assume he is

@Leo Gura I can relate with much of what you are saying here. This has been my daily experience as well, Maybe not exact to yours but it is like an effortless consciousness I can just ride on, Lately I have not even been seeing rooms just my own mind, Even the sensation of it being a seperate room is immediately right here it is like a nonspecific permanent samadhi with anything throughout my experience, Although there are gradations of awareness and I can fall totally asleep thinking I’m awake when I’m not, It’s like nested unconsciousness for me that the only barrier is these assumed buildups of unconsciousness like air-pockets between connections, I suppose that’s a feature not a bug though that I have an aspect that is totally dead and unaware to whatever happens in consciousness no matter how lively the sights are I am completely aware that it’s nothing. Basically I am living as my realized imagination and it’s complete nothingness, I am imagining everything just as I imagine an apple in my thoughts. But it has an alien quality but I think it’s separate from what your talking about this is so depersonalized I wouldn’t even call it alien, Alien is not enough, I don’t find the label alien satisfying for me cause I sense it as beyond alien but a complete mind duck of a nonexistent oddity yet not alien or different, It’s not alien it’s absolute familiarness within everything, If an alien were to come to me yes there would be ego shock but that’s me! The extent to which I cannot see the sameness within alienness is my delusion that prevents me from samadhi with all items of my imagination, These realizations and insights all feel so very fresh for me, I am infinite consciousness is the main insight, I just get pummeled by roiling infinity as you described it in your salvia episode all the time, It’s a total recontextualization of every single content of my perceptions, It is quite hallucinatory but it’s less than my metaphysical contemplations used to be which is weird I have reached a point of integration where I can integrate some of the more far out imaginings, Before I was always giving my friends I was trying to teach just straight up whacky examples of relativity with like ideas of like stuff they wouldn’t think is real in consensus, Now it’s just an infinitely present room or whatever is here, It’s a room for me right now. and it goes meta, That’s where psychedelics are leading me rather than tangential hallucinations nowadays, Psychedelics are just more of this than I would be experiencing on a daily basis but same insights, Just different approaches and magnitudes of consciousness but same dynamics apply at the highest level, I have one question though if you integrate all difference with you really be able to perceive anything as alien or truly different? Why’s it alien if I’m everything,including all of the strains of infinity? Isn’t everything going to obviously encompass all difference and divergence? alien being maximum divergence from what we consider normal, Isn’t that a part of the natural that it is the supernatural?

Come on Carl you are probably going to do that anyway....let's be real you are on this forum....by virtue of just interacting on this forum makes you already way smarter than any teacher you have in university...sorry to tell you but that my friend was inevitable. You are going to continue to have this problem because you are going to keep seeing all the lies in Academia. Its a sad realization of this work....you are just going to be deconstructing lies on the fly...even when you aren't even trying. Hang in there!! Also....you changed the color of your mushroom....I was so used to the green too. ^Why do yall think Leo can transform into an Alien on screen? Have yall not yet understood how this whole thing works yet? Just because from his POV he can change into an Alien doesn't mean from your POV you can see it. Have you all not yet realized that your POV...is the only thing that exists? If you met Leo...from your POV he is imaginary like everyone else. If you entered certain states....he would DISSAPPEAR....so would your human avatar. Also in other states....you could freeze time where he couldn't move from your POV but only you could move. In another state...you could put him in synch with you where he could only move when you move. There are even more settings you could tinker with if you want. So no he is not turning into an Alien from your POV...unless you imagine it for yourself that he can. Now from his POV he could turn into a Alien....but you couldn't perceive it....unless he could imagine you perceiving that he has turned into one. ^Chew on what I just typed.

It would be a mistake to judge the look of an alien from a Human perspective. This is the mother of all "subjectivities"!!! I personally think we not ready to explore the aliens subject other than just their intelligence and consciousness. Majority of humans can hardly even control their emotions when it comes to Lust, Greed, Anger... We are too immature to explore the Aliens subject. I mean we can, in this case we would not be a friend to them, but rather an inferior servant.

Well, that's not what you said directly, but okay, I'll give it to you as I agree with this statement. They are not the problem and should not be demonized. Well, in some sense it is that. Just with a certain brand of spirituality that everyone here seems to agree on. Alien lemming Buddhism, I suppose. Agree with this. People do think they are owed more than they are, but I do get it as when life gets hard sometimes I get angry, too. The only caveat is that I take the time to introspect on why once I'm calm. That said, though, we should have a system in place for people who can't care for themselves. Most people should not blame others, but someone who is so ill that they can't function in society does deserve to at least get the basics. Although no one is deserved everything, I think the minimum should be the freedom to be safe and out of harms way within a civilized society. It really isn't. It is a manifestation of the actions you have taken in life. Who governs the laws of karma? Not sure, I haven't gotten that far, I just know it when I can feel it in my environment working around me. Does eating pork give you bad karma? I don't know, it depends on how the animal was killed and your level of knowing if eating an animal killed improperly is wrong. Innocence is taken into account, but once you are aware and know, then you are expected to make adjustments. Who decides? Not sure, I just feel it. Who cares and why? You will when you get to the end of the line and can see the evaluation happening all around you. It takes some skill to be able to parse it. Actions have consequences, some foreseen, some not, there's really no way to deny it. It is the realm to many different things. Most of us only use our basic senses. Some people can experience more than that. It isn't a belief, it is something that I feel when I do my work that impacts me in my day to day. Rather than asking me questions about something you don't believe in and are closed minded to, ask yourself why you don't have any understanding in a thing that has been in great detail recorded within human history? You don't need to take my word for it. It doesn't really matter to me, when you experience it at the end of your life, you will know what it is. Until then, live how you want, it isn't my "karma" to try and change your beliefs about something you're shut away from. If you are, there's probably a reason for it. When you see it, it will come into your life in many ways, not just as some "being", but the momentum of activity that your life has created on this earth and the effects that it caused for yourself and others. I don't really need to prove it to you, you'll get there eventually, we all have to face the outcome of our actions.

For a good review check this: https://spiraldynamicsintegral.nl/en/turquoise/ https://spiraldynamicsintegral.nl/en/yellow/ As well as you can buy the course on Integral life to go through all the stages. Tier2 mosty called Teal takes a lot of study and work to integrate. I've been listening for it and practicing it for years with even small courses on InsightTimer offered by Ken Wilber. Reading almost all Wilbers and doing the work. IMO even when I meet integral people at integral life who are TIER2. It's not easy to detect. For example I spiral down the most when I have physical and mental issues, when I exercise and work regularly and sleep regularly I function highly at TQ as an more symbol aware individual referencing a bit of snippet knowledge from Susan-Cook-Greuters Ego-Development Model. Leo has a video on this!!! Must watch almost!! I notice how important it is to study it in more detail. I did the full course on integral life and did every exercise besides the stage turqouise one and I notice for example. As the three main lines that dictate as far as I know full Tier2 are: cognitive line of development, emotional line of development and moral line of development. (check kosmic consciouness for a reference book/audiobook by Wilber). I for example struggle with a Yellow/Turqouise moral and emotional line as there are not many individual emobdying it. Values and Needs are even seperate... if you want to get technical. Although they are part of AQAL Schamchtenberge is a good example of fully TQ at the cognitive and moral line, I doubt his emotional development. Seen other masters who are way way above him see Peter Ralston for example as a fully living Tier 3 individual. As soon as you hit stream entry you basically are functioning at TIER3. Tier2 is pretty low of a devleopment imo, it's not that hard anymore. At least that is my opinion without studying it like a rigid academic, although I studied and did enough to tell. I am at Teal and sometimes broken Teal because of life circumstances. The two links above are a good reference. Most forget that all of the stages are online... so they only focus on ego instead of seeing through the ego! As Tier2 is not egoless it's highly ego-aware! That is an important distinction. Most here are most likely currently low-high Yellow as the rational "dogmatic/scientific reductionistic" oranges somehow left the forum. After years of beign here... check my profile I can tell mostly who is at a high functioning stage, although it get's confusing even after having done the courses. Ken Wilber is at Tier3 -> First ego-less stage coral/indigo + morals + emotional line = Full Tier3 according to Wilber criteria. No idea what Leo thinks about this topic... Obviously, appealing to authorities. Cook-Greuter is great in terms of making a scientific study of Tier1 and Tier2. Although my science is rather rusty currently... Even if you did the development it's revoke able to a degree according to Wilber at least. So when you did the work and fall of you horse, you can climb back up. There are regression within the model explained.. claiming anything is an issue. See how Leo reaches alien intelligence and the next one comes. OMFG I reached it too, trust people by their actions mostly.. not their words imo. I dunno how many people I corrected here about this topic.... https://integrallife.com/glossary/third-tier/ Focusing on third3 would do better than focusing on Tier2. Tier2 is quiet shallow imo after meeting some and many of them as well as enlightend masters face to face. Leo is doing fantastic work, although it's extremely difficult to embody, and stuff changes all the time. My personal opinion I think Schmachtenberger is a pussy because he does not push himself to Tier3. and because he wears a German surname for a little bit of bias.

Haha. But more seriously have you ever really looked at your body and realized it was alien? In other words we have been conditioned to have a sense that this is "human" and this is normality. Yet, we are actually so alien. Our faces are just so foreign...our hands are claws. Just have to look at it without knowing or letting the conceptual mind take over. and then you realize you don't really "know" what you are..it is foreign. ? interesting indeed.

Hahaha fun read brother I think E.T.s would be as equally fascinated by us like we would be them, at least in the beginning. Indeed. From what I’ve gathered, the evolution of intelligent life in the Universe tends to move towards Love. I’d imagine an alien species capable of interstellar travel would have a very high level of consciousness and not a low one. If they were to bump into us, I highly doubt they would be violent and go scorched earth on us like in the movies.

If it were to be so grotesque that it could not possibly be a visual effect, yeah off course people would care. a lot. Are you that blind? an actual nigga transforming into an actual alien? ???

@Jake Chambers Dude relax, no one outside of this forum/his Youtube channel gives a shit if Leo transforms into an alien. No one. I think you spend too much on actualized.org and should see the outside world

They are so ugly! Wtf is this visage of theirs? A nose protruding from their face? Is this not foreign? A mouth that opens up to allow stuff to be consumed like a trash compactor...what is that? Two circles above the "nose" that allow one to have "vision"....what is that? Is this not some alien thing? Look at their "face" in the mirror...what is this stuff growing on the top? Is it called hair? What is the stuff growing beneath the ",mouth"? What are the two orifices on each side of their "head" ? They take in something "known" as sound. So Jesus,, what the fuck are they? It's so...well it's so goddamn - alien! Have you ever seen anything that looks like this before? It's so weird! What's even weirder is that some of these alien beings are considered "handsome" or more appealing than others? Why is that? Aren't they all just so grotesque and something out of a science fiction book? I mean really - that snout right in the middle of their face says it all! We have truly discovered aliens!! For the very first time! They exist.

That's called drug induced psychosis. But hey, I hope you either recover from it or enjoy it as genuine awakening and extraordinary levels of consciousness. Why would you even consider visual alien transformation to your live audience, you are smart enough to know that fbi and governments would come after you and you would basically be exiled or hunted all over the world. It would be the most viral thing ever. Did you really not consider that? that's what makes me think you went crazy.

I can't keep my eyes closed for longer than 10 minutes without having breakthrough new awakenings every day. I'm having 1-3 new awakenings every night in my sleep. No chems. Just a never ending stream of weirder and deeper alien awakenings. It's hard to sleep. I'm super-conscious any time my eyes are closed. I enter a sort of effortless meditative state nearly instantly even if I don't want to. It's pretty terrifying. Sometimes I have to distract myself out of it with BS human activity. And then I have to write down all the news which just pour forth at such a rate that I would be writing for hours each day if I tried to catch them all. As I said, I feel like I opened a permanent portal in my skull into another dimension. It feels like there is dark light in the center of my skull when my eyes are closed. This light bursts forth with visions, insights, and new deeper awakenings. It had been a bit much lately. It has also made my hyper creative and artistic. I suspect that I have done so many psychedelics that they have permanently rewired my brain. That's how it feels right now. Waiting to see if it's just a passing phase.

First of all, only one person has been making threads about Destiny since September 30th. Secondly, we needed a break from the weekly alien consciousness posts :>

Or maybe he transformed into alien and said goodbye planet earth.Was fun ride while being human .

@Space that bastard, he promised to teach me alien love first. I'll ask Ralston to kick Leo in the ass in the afterlife.

Leo has vanished into Alien God Mind, never to return.

@longusername12345 Hold off psychedelics based of your post you still seem immature and unsure of yourself, which is understandable since your 17, focus on building proper life skills such as, building a strong work ethic, putting yourself on a path to avoid wage slavery, pushing your body physically, building romantic and platonic relationships ect. At the end of the day, the effect of psychedelics wear of and your back to living your life, imagine glimpsing alien consciousness and then having to cater to some Karen at a bs job just to put a roof over your head or living a sad life because you have bad mental health and dont have quality people around you. Do light psychedelics every 6 months and plan out for it, but other than that don't fall into the trap of "being spiritually advanced at a young age" or else you'll end up like some forum members here who can explain god consciousness but can't get a girlfriend or make a living.

Sat Nam ? It’s not easy sharing this stuff, but I’ll do my best to elaborate It’s a mutually beneficial relationship between the human and the jellyfish. The jellyfish uses the human as a gateway into third dimensional consciousness and “physical” existence as we know it. It also uses the human as a probe into this specific ecosystem of earth, to access earths history and genetic code along with all the native thought/feeling structures throughout the animal and human populations that exist here. Everything that the human encounters can be picked apart in a hyper dimensional way by the jellyfish and can be used as fuel or intel for other healing activities. The high thread count of this human probe here can be transferred through the hyper dimensional filter of the jellyfish to assist other alien probes with increasing their own thread count among their respective worlds. The jellyfish is extremely sensitive to suffering patterns and even though most worlds may not even have 1% in common with the way they suffer, the jellyfish will utilize very small overlaps to intelligently assist many worlds simultaneously. The human uses the jellyfish as a database or library of Alexandria on steroids while also contributing to this information store house with it’s very life. The human also uses the jellyfish as a guardian angel of sorts that coats the experience with a web of these hyper dimensional tentacles which in essence is a deterrent from most of the bullshit on this planet; it prevents excess negativity, toxic belief systems, naïve ignorance, and emotional dependence from staying too long or even entering the psyche at all. In addition to creating extreme sensitivity to human shadow games, projections, manipulations and energy vampires. The jellyfish provides a constant intuitive scan of the environment that quickly filters out people, food, drugs, media (so on and so forth etc.) that is not in alignment with the pure state of the jellyfish and is a hindrance to this hyper dimensional healing goal. The jellyfish orients the human lifestyle for maximum healing in a wise not foolish way. Too much of the “wrong” kind of suffering is bad for the human vessel and renders it ineffective. Also the jellyfish looks after it’s own. Almost like it won’t let the human die unless it’s on the jellyfish’s terms; it won’t let the shenanigans of earth disrupt its very delicately seeded vessel. What this means for the human is that it hardly ever gets sick, like the immune system is super charged from all the extra tentacle-voltage. There’s also a hyper intuition that helps prevent accidents such as car crashes from swerving drunk drivers. The jellyfish is the brains and the brawn; the technician which brings the expertise. The human is the magnifying glass, the scalpel, screwdriver and transformer device used for the healing installation. There has been an initiation for the human/jellyfish pair over the last decade that has involved a slow, methodical stepping into stronger suffering. The jellyfish encourages the human through vision, telepathy and hyper-astral projection, to face ever deeper earthly atrocities. Facing this pain with compassion and forgiveness, the human invites the luminous jellyfish to radiate ever greater levels of love. In addition to this the jellyfish is using the physical death of the human body as an advanced healing method. The closer that the personality gets to physical death while being conscious and loving during the process, the more that the jellyfish can reach into the rest of humanity who is dying and suffering an end of life on crisis. 5D+ Visions have revealed that there is clearly a lot of gloomy anticipation and negativity in most of humanity during their last moments of life and leading into death, especially if they are quite conscious that they are dying soon or in a violent way. The next phases of healing for the jellyfish is in attempt to provide some kind of lubricant for many people as the “ Spirit leaves the body” or as they cross over to the other side so to speak. Casting a healing net around the species mind that soothes the pain of losing life, comforts the personality in the unknowing of the after death experience , and reaffirms the life force and helps orient the consciousness beyond the physical body. The alien jellyfish is still a dream, although a very pure, hyper lucid dream. It is attempting to share its lucidity with humanity and especially with the ambassador of its interface (this personality.) As if this personality is caught in between a hyper dimensional handshake between the jellyfish and the human species. The dream from this view is now becoming so lucid that it is literally dissolving. Dissolving the very “physical” connection between the human avatar and the dreamed world. The jellyfish is teaching me how to die consciously and how to love myself and the world as it’s happening. Through the human, the jellyfish can access levels of suffering and levels of limitation that it did not imagine were possible. Through the jellyfish, the human can access levels of God consciousness and levels of Love/Freedom/Interconnectivity that it did not imagine was possible. ???????????

To say that God is a mental construction made so that humans do not have access to the alien god, which is the real one, since we could not process it, sounds like complete madness. what is that alien? who also goes by helicopter and does somersaults. it's a joke? And that of the camera...I don't think he's gone crazy, it's something calculated, maybe what zeroguy says. But when he said that seemed he was sincere and affected by the experience. Anyway, Leo getting psychotic? I don't think so, he seems too strong for that

@KH2 Like, Leo admits he is not a perfect source of information. Leo is playing with his infinite intelligence and enjoying his Alien fantasy. Or, psychosis. Or, he’s become an alien. Who knows