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Leo Gura replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This alien consciousness does not operate on beliefs and it doesn't have any problems to solve. -
Proserpina replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura Has your opinion shifted at all on psychosis and schizophrenia? Or is it mostly the same? I know I experienced insanity around the same time I experienced awakening. Awakening, alien consciousness and insanity went hand in hand. -
Proserpina replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There isn't an enormous separation in my experience. Insanity came with the territory of deep spiritual awakening. I remember insanity and foreign, alien territory went hand in hand. And you either decided to take the leap into the foreign territory of consciousness and awakening and oneness and love or you stayed where it was safe and sane. -
John Iverson replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
My Question is so even that Alien is limited? Like human? But it is more way developed than us.? How that became conscious of that? Is that rat been born? -
REPOST (EDIT) : You need a combination of Man (Life energy - masculine) and God (Breath - feminine). God can heal and blossom that which is Man. And Man can inspire that which is God. I don't entirely understand this channeling. It came from an alien state of consciousness and I am not versed in this stuff. God wants both God and Man, higher consciousness and lower consciousness, wisdom and localized intellect. They are equal in God's eyes. Improvement/growth and no growth are also equal in God's eyes. Masculine and feminine. God created both to be equal. The ultimate qualities of Man and God are Life energy and Breath. Life energy in balance means health, beauty, and well-being. Life energy out of balance means narcissism and self-worship. Breath in balance is love. Breath out of balance is pandora's box. Too much God can be negative and too much Man can be negative. Adam and Eve: Eve gave Adam the forbidden fruit. Eve actually symbolizes God and Adam symbolizes Man (Life energy). Eve persuaded Adam to eat of the apple of Good and Evil (Breath) so that they might become Gods. Adam then sees himself as a God and simultaneously Evil is unleashed upon the world. Eve has been struck down and subjugated as Adam is now God and no longer seems in need of Breath, which is also threatening to him. The masculine and patriarchal Man has been refashioned as God.
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vladorion replied to NoN-RaTiOnAL's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It may be true that not a single Buddhist has had the experiences you've had, but it's also true that you haven't had the realizations that people on the Buddhist path have. That's why you're still seeking and chasing cooler and deeper experiences. Unsatisfied with being human and wanting to become something else. Hence your new obsession with being an alien mouse. -
JosephKnecht replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
1. Rather than becoming an alien, do you believe this experience will alienate you from the rest of humanity? 2. Do you recognize the inverse correlation between faith and understanding? For example, the more you understand God, the less faith you have to have in Him. Would you lose all faith for ultimate understanding? 3. If you alredy see perfection in reality, why do you even want to become a mouse? What is wrong with being Leo? -
SamC replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Leo, we all know this is what you've been doing all the time Good for you for finnaly realizing it /// God alien kengeruu moose -
Leo Gura replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
At the rate I am growing it's impossible to tell where I'll be in 5-10 years. Stay tuned and see. Just to show people that the things I'm talking about are real. A lot Because I am really passionate, curious, and openminded, whereas most people just follow spiritual group-think. Most people wouldn't even push a button to become an alien mouse if one was handed to them. I've always taken care of myself. -
zunnyman replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura Sorry for the spam questions, but Ive been very curiously wondering this for many days now, before your alien intelligence awakening, why you of all people? you mentioned you're the only one on the planet conscious of god .. and now this? You used to not take care of yourself at all, you're mostly involved in human life, pretty ordinary in many ways, how did you end up being the 1 in 7+ billion people conscious of god, and beyond? -
zunnyman replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura You mentioned, you would try communicating this alien language. But what's the significance of the alien language? Why would we want to learn this or hear it? What could alien-intelligence do for the future teachings of actualized.org? -
zunnyman replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura Amazing Leo! I'm constantly amazed by what's possible within spirituality. I read all these posts, and it seems like you don't know how this will play out as this is so new to you. But given this new awakening to an alien hyper intelligence, and your previous plans for your future ... how do you see the next 5, 10 years playing out in your life? will you still continue actualized.org? will you change the activities that you do? wondering what this means for your daily human life, and your inner experience changes. -
JuliusCaesar replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
All I mean to say is, respect the mouse's potential, man! This is some kind of serious groundbreaking novel experience you're describing here. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if after making 100 people become this being for an infinity of eternities, that there would still be things about the alien that even these 100 can't conceive of. -
Danioover9000 replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I don't know who what when where and why, that's how my mind likes to rhyme, deep inside, rhythmic beats, rhyming beeds, on a mic with big mac in one hand, mac in cheese the other, also wear my hearts out in my sleeves, as tell tale as my heart can be. I know, now, back then, when a UFO hover craft, shaped like a flying saucer egg, drips a sauce, yellow-orange light inside my Mo's wine, above her dormitory, during a storm, alien genetics tac toes into my mind, fitting it like denin jeans inside my witty baby skull bean. I can still see it, where I was, like the sounds still here, between my round ears, hearing my Ma's dorimafasola. fueling my soul as Ma and Da and Sa and Ra rears me, slightly abnormal story compared to norms, back then, also a toodler boy, close to void, wisdom old yet golden, somehow know deities shower me with their delight in me, till father time slices them magical memories, chiseled me with space time limits till I was meshed in flesh, leashed in pleasures and pains, passions and hates, deep in dualities, ties livid till devine memories fade. "Quirkle Squirkle Lurkle" says the what mouse, "Where Squirrels lurks, turns turtles, Quirk perks: quickie murders, squirts the ugly duck girl, quack-quack." Says the Myrtle CAT, who? GOD, who and what says this quackery? Quick, phone and ask Dr. Seuss for that blue steroid for my throat chakra, to reign in my insanity...what? He's busy eating Swiss cheese burgers, on an asteroid, getting massages from a masseuse? Ok, don't mention my exploring into my in-sanity. How do I know, and did all that above? Pre written, or off the dome? Yes and no, Rome wasn't built in one day, guilty free slaves, hey, how did I leave my haven here, to end up in another dimension? What a dilemma, don't mention this to the drones, or the Reptilian and Greys, also the CIA, or else policia will come, and I have to seem polite and nice and tell them why the Black Cats are at it again, playing rats and mice in alleyways, and explain why, in plain English, half a mouse lies on my carpet, and how my adopted kitten's innocent despite the red smears on her lips, nose and whiskers. Thank god my garping on and on about my day drove them away, phew! Not now, but a second later, my best friends gonna drill me into giving her griled cheese sandwich, driving me into those manic episodes, featuring a Pepsi soda, with a fillet fish burger, added tarter sauce with a bunch of starters, side of griiled cheese and homemade chilli sauce, Netflix and chill with aliens and predators, subconsciously recording everything and somehow getting feedback, while my bestie listens to Drillmatic and Black Slim Shady while downing some Bailey's. Hey, cute lady, night time, dim the lights, let sleep limp your framing, and sheep counting daze your day away. @Leo Gura -
Leo Gura replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I just began exploring this thing, so we'll see. I don't know. Well, it's sorta just in love endlessly with itself. It's all alone too, so it doesn't really have anyone else to love. At least that's what I experienced up to this point. INFINITY is LOVE. That's the highest, most fullest God state. Just pure undifferentiated LOVE. This alien consciousness is very loving of itself, but it's a very specific, differentiated kind of experience of Love. Both kinds of Love are amazing. It's sort of like the difference between enjoying vanilla ice cream vs a very exotic form of ice cream like tea green or pistachio. The vanilla is more balanced but the exotic one can be extremely satisfying despite being very narrow. -
JuliusCaesar replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why guess as human Leo? Can you not ask these questions as that mouseGod? After all, that being is certain to be vastly superior in wisdom and understanding than any human could ever hope to be. Of course, I was using a different definition of Omnipresence though. Omnipresence refers to the infinitude of God's experience. But there can be many different meanings to the concept of experiencing absolutely everything. For instance, does this Alien have direct access to the entirety of all mankind's personal experiences? If so, then that's amazing, isn't it? If not so, then why? Why is this being limited in that area and how? Another thing, how loving is this being? Can you imagine something it wouldn't love? Also, how does it's infinite love compare to say, the infinite love you've expressed in past states of God consciousness? Of course, the human mind by default is very limited and struggles substantially with these things usually. Of course not! Only I am so crazy as to hold myself to those kinds of seemingly impossible standards and maintain such incredible ambition. At the same time however, I'd like to point out that this whole concept of Man vs God is kinda nonsensical since man is just God hallucinating that it's man. As a side note, I've as a human taken somewhat of a hiatus from psychedelics in recent time, but am likely to come out of it as there's substances that are just far too useful in aiding me in my work not to do them. Nonetheless, my human only experience is invaluable as manipulating reality from various levels of capability permits me to learn in a way I couldn't if I stuck only to God consciousness all the time. As I wouldn't have the reference of success/failure in doing so from lower levels of mind to compare against the same in higher states. -
JuliusCaesar replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura Because the mouse and your human body were morphed into one entity. Is it not possible for you to become this I don't even know what to call it, Omniscient, Omnipotent, hyperdimensional Godself on a permanent basis? Furthermore, in what dream/reality/place which is beyond all dreams/realities does this being exist? You have said that the natural laws it's under differ from those of the reality which houses Leo. Therefore, it seems reasonable that there's some kind of perceptual barrier that exists in your perception between these two realities. But because these are both our imagination, the separateness of them is made up by us, therefore isn't it possible for you to send things from one reality into another by means of the Alien's sovereignty as God? And lastly, to what extent is this Alien being Omnipresent and in what sense? True, well said. Furthermore, this means you have the ability to alter the laws of physics using your mind. With human consciousness, this may be difficult or even impossible, but as we all know, human consciousness can be in many different ways..... many many many many different ways. You can even become something that's not even human anymore lol. Then it's as objective as we desire it to be. As such, we can modify the degree of subjectivity/objectivity of it. -
JuliusCaesar replied to NoN-RaTiOnAL's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I agree with you here, this is in part why I objected as I did because you stated something that's contrary to my understanding of you. Namely that God was essentially beyond your comprehension on the grounds that our nature is too radical and alien to be comprehended by you. Of course, you did not overtly state this but implied it, I was responding to your implication of guilt in your incapacity to understand us, not any overt deliberate statement. So I'm trying to help you better articulate yourself by pointing out that you should never make a statement that lacks nuance such as "No one on the forum can do x", especially since such phraseology includes you. If you've read even just a small minority of the things I've posted, it's probably obvious to you that we're substantially in agreement about basically everything relative to metaphysics, and the true nature of existence. There are only mostly tiny discrepancies that arise between our worldviews, which in my understanding has occurred for two reasons. One, at the level of our human selves, my own moral philosophy is significantly more utilitarian than yours. And two, because I have substantially more experience attempting to do magickal things from a relatively ordinary human state of consciousness with varying degrees of success. And as such, I've had different insights to you at times, though I've also through means similar to the means you employ also discovered many of the same truths that you have. You are me so of course. Much of the criticisms I have levied toward you in the past, have revolved around areas where in my estimation you've imposed unnecessary limits on yourself. Which of course substantially alienates me from the majority of your other critics who have the opposite inclination. Who tell you that you're deluded because you're a human limited to the things a human can do, thinking that they're God. The heart of all my criticism is basically the inverse of this, that because you truly are God, you don't have to accept any of the limits you have accepted. Our current society wants to pigeon hole you into accepting the status quo ante and all its limitations, I however have endeavored to push you in 180 degrees the other direction. Indeed, from your experiences that correlate to experiences of my own, I've profited substantially in many verticals. Mostly in the form of gaining greater clarity and a superior understanding of things, the value of which can't be easily quantified. This makes me think you read quite a lot of the things I've written on this forum. As I often present myself in a way that is indicative of blatant biases toward usefulness. -
Loba replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Here's some alien knowledge, for anyone who is interested... My Mr. Wolf showed me how to do this because he is one of these beings. They are highly complex social memory complexes, and they start as a single point in awareness, just like you, from their side, and they draw consciousness/the light/the feminine portion into them, and they completely immerse themselves within it, bathe in it, and carry it throughout their entire being. Every portion carries an equal amount of this within them. This consciousness/light is love and is similar to how the first material creates life within it - prima materia - Adam and Eve. They say that humans need to get closer to Love and that we would dance in this manner if we could do this, that we would automatically start to move in natural patterns, that we would have more of a collective hive mind. They work together in a unit, but are entire worlds into themselves, moving in complete harmony, everyone knows their place in the dance - they share this with me, before descending back into themselves as one singular point. You can find these beings within yourself, within allegory, within metaphor, "out there", they are everywhere, trying to share this message of self-love to get back to God. I fail at this, but this one time, when I really did allow myself to love who I was - I was given this message. Hope you can take something from it. This entire thread has reinvigorated my sense of agency on my path - I might take a break for a few days after today - but this whole thing was just what I needed to feel sure of myself again. I was so worried I was doing it all wrong, and then literally right after discussing with myself a much needed break to collect my thoughts, Leo comes out with this - like a sign, that we are all getting closer into understanding this strange and crazy existence. I love it so much. I am thrilled. I'll be back in a few days... good luck understanding/integrating your experience Leo! -
Leo Gura replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No. I only became the mouse yesterday. What I mean is something much more twisted: Leo's body is actually an alien mouse when seen from the proper state of consciousness. The look of my body doesn't change, but you become so conscious that you simply start see yourself as an alien. Imagine awakening to the fact that you are not a human but an alien. But your physical appearance does not change. Maybe it's better to say that it became me. -
aurum replied to AtheisticNonduality's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@AtheisticNonduality No, he just became an alien mouse. -
Leo Gura replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
My human mind can barely access it right now. The sounds and rhythem is too alien to hold in human memory. But here's a tiny yet poor example "Quirkle squirkle lurkle" It's like Dr Suess-speak on steroids. Its meaning cannot be translated into any human concepts. Its meaning exists in a totally different dimension from human comprehension. It's meaning is stranger than if you were to see a taramisu-flavored dragonfly in 5 dimensions. I will need to revisit the mouse state and record myself to capture it faithfully. I'm not doing a good rendition of the sounds right now. -
Leo Gura replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's pretty cool, but not alien-sounding enough. -
Matthew85 replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura After experiencing the tremendous joy of being this alien mouse, did you have any challenges coming back to your life as Leo? -
puporing replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's wonderful, funny last night I also encountered being transformed to alien-like consciousness and form that brought me to infinite bliss! But not something as elaborate and detailed like yours, but still wayyy beyond this world and what's possible without psychedelics. Look forward to exploring more. Psychedelics being illegal is a real disservice to humanity, hope that changes one day.