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Nothing is what you get when you realize that space and time are imagined by consciousness, leading to the understanding that reality occurs no where at all without beginning or end. nothingness is the source of everything, nothingness is infinity, nothingness is God.

Nothingness is the cause of everything. As nothingness don't is, everything is.

There is an old Buddhist saying " form is empty. Emptiness is form". It's basically pointing to the collapse of the duality between somethingness and nothingness. I've realized it many times.. That something and nothing are identical. The mistake is thinking that "nothing" is some blank black void somewhere. No.. Everything we are experiencing all the time is precisely nothing. It's completely hollow and unstable. No different than appearance of a Dream. Even scientifically speaking.. If you break down the atoms that make up the universe.. You will get waves of energy. Break down the energry and you get nothingness . We know now through quantum physics that the universe is literally made out of nothing. Scientific community just doesn't want to let mainstream society know because it's going to cause a serious existential crisis and mass suicides if people knew that nothing actually exist .

Nothingness = God Not Nothingness = God

I am currently contemplated what Nothingness is metaphysically. If you'd like the exercise, attempt to explain what Nothingness is on a metaphysical level. Thank you

Spiritual Autolysis Journal Entry #63 - Mar 29, 2025 9:16 PM CHAPTER TITLE: Higher Self has a Meltdown Summary: The characters start to become aware of their own self-construction Higher self: Hi, how are you today? Lower self: I am good, just busy doing lower self stuff. Higher self: oh okay.... What exactly are "lower self stuff?" Lower self: Thinking. That's what I've been doing, I feel like it's all that I do. Think. And feel. Think. Feel. Think. Feel. It feels like that is all that I am, this floating ball of consciousness that has an endless stream of thoughts and emotions. Higher self: oh well okay then. Yeah, if that's what you feel like you are, then yeah good for you. Lower self: Thanks, I had to get that off of my chest. Higher self: I'm happy for you. Now what is a statement that is true? True beyond a singular doubt. Lower self: This water bottle is green. Higher self: *Looks taken aback* This water bottle is green??? That's the best you can come up with! I've waited two weeks to hear that?! *Looking dumbfounded* the water bottle is green... First off, water bottle is a concept, it is a label that was given to an object so that it can be identified and categorizing and given value to. Green... What the fuck is even that?*Using a mocking voice* Green. The color green is a label that has been given to an object that is seen by the human eye to have a shade that is similar to the color of grass or a forest or broccoli. It was invented so that we can distinguish one color as opposed to another. Pfft .. this water bottle is green. There is not an ounce of truth within that statement. Try again. Lower self: okay. Give me a second .... I.... I exist. I do in fact exist. I know this because I am moving my fingers, typing on a tiny little phone keyboard in order to write down a conversation that I am having in my own head. This is what I am doing and it is me that is experiencing it. There. I am fully aware that I do in fact exist. *Looks at higher self for reassurance* Higher self: I exist *scratches his chin* If I exist then that would mean that we exist. Then again I am just a voice inside of your head. But then again, who am I referring to when i say "your." *Higher self stares off into the distance, looking confused* Lower self: Yeah I don't know who you're referring to as your.. I am not running the show here. Higher self: What are you talking about? Then who's running the show here? *Growing frustrated* Lower self: My emotions and my thoughts are running things. I have no actual control over any and all behaviors and actions. In a sense I am a selfless being already because I have no control over what I am doing. Higher self: what are you talking about? Of course you have control. Lower self: I don't feel like I have control. I feel like I just do things without any real reason. It's as if I'm on auto pilot and I have been since I was born. That's why I should just let go. Let go of all control. And allows myself to float on down this beautiful river of mystery. Higher self: Why would you want to let go? Aren't you afraid of what will happen to you? Lower self: Yes. I am afraid. Higher self: Afraid of what exactly? *Lower self goes into contemplation mode* Lower self: I am afraid of losing something. Higher self: Afraid of losing what exactly? Lower self: I am afraid of losing... *Sits there in silence for a minute* ... My identity. Higher self: Ahhh okay. Now we're getting somewhere. And what is an identity? Lower self: An identity is a structure that I have built in my own mind in order to describe myself. I feel like I am different than all of the other creatures and things in this world. I identify with this body that is sitting here typing words on a screen. Anything outside of this body`s experience is "out there" and " other than me." Higher self: Now, tell me this higher self, what makes your perspective different than mine. Lower self: Ohhhh. That's a juicy question! Nice one dude! *Higher self gives lower self a high five* *Lower self smiles sheepishly* Higher Self: Now why are you say so self conscious? Why can't you confidently accept the praise and just be yourself? Lower self: Hold on a minute, what is the difference between you and me? Why do you act so confident and I don't? And are we both part of this "identity" that this "I" has constructed for itself? Higher self: I'm sorry, I just get so passionate about helping you. *Starts to settle in* Okay, let's take it from the top. I am a character that is located in this body's head. But I am imaginary. You can picture me as this tiny little version of myself that is able to zoom his perspective out so that he can see things from an objective viewpoint. It's as if I am in this Absolute realm. I am detached from outcome, from emotions, anything that makes you human, I am not attached to. That's what makes me... me. Lower self: Okay, then what am I as the lower self character in this story? Higher self: You are also a fictitious character that was created inside of this body's head. But what makes you different than me is that you have access to the feelings and thoughts and overall the human experience that I do not have access to. That is the only difference between you and I. I am not better than you. I fully accept and love you exactly as you are right now. You are perfect. Lower self: But are we both really the same thing because this I body is one entity, correct? And we are both inside of it. *Looks sad* I just don't really understand what I am though. Like what am I metaphysically? I must have some metaphysical make up. I mean I must be made of something, right? Metaphysically: relating to or concerned with abstract thought or subjects beyond the physical world, such as existence, causality, and truth, or the study of the fundamental nature of reality. Higher self: I don't know, why do we have to be made up of anything? Lower self: What do you mean? Are you saying that we are made up of nothing? What even is that? Higher self: Nothing? I don't know what it is. I literally have no clue. *They look at each other at first deep in thought, then they both grin in an eager way* Next chapter: Discovering Nothingness

In other words, if there is no awareness of something, what is there? Nothing. What is nothing? Absolute potential. Therefore, awareness of something reappears. If it reappears, when did it not exist? Never. Where is never? In nowhere. Always is being because not being is never, then being is infinite. It could take infinite dimensions, because nothing is infinite potential. It's simple inevitable logic, because existence is logical, just because logical is an arising in existence The question would be: why nothing is infinite potential? Because nothing is limitless, that's the main point. This is the root of the understanding, when you realize the absolute nothingness, and you realize that in it everything is, because the absence of limitations of the nothingness has as its inevitable consequence the explosion of the infinite totality. You can see it directly, without logical mind involved, it's within you

Nothingness and Everythingness are identical to Love. A heed of warning, though. There is a trade-off to raising your consciousness this high. All ideas of there being a past, present, future become obsolete. And a need to control and maintain your human identity takes a dip, as you realize how it means absolutely NOTHING in the grand scheme of things

Nothingness is what is happening. Nothingness is not separate from something. But what is Nothing? Is a great question. It cannot be pointed too, it can only be realized. Too be conscious of Nothingness is to see the hollowness of reality, what helps is to have a boundary dissolving experience in which your sense of solid reality breakdown and melts. When your entire reality flips inside out, there is no out there, it is all happening in the Mind. But not your mind, this mind is the mind of the Universe. This Mind is empty of itself but contains all form. This empty Nothingness is the intelligence of creation. It is Infinite Consciousness. You can feel like your going crazy because all experience is universal and there is no focal point to which you can point to yourself, there is no you, and the inside and outside become One. Which is not the nothing you think of, you cannot imagine it, it imagines everything. You are it.

Nothingness is the realization that there is nothing concrete, nothing defined, nothing structured, if your mind isn't creating those structures and meanings. Then it seems to you that reality is absolute emptiness, but if you can maintain this state for a while without panic and horror, you realize something obvious: you are there. How? Who? What are you?, the one who is there in the nothingness? An observer? How, if there is nothing to observe? Are you the perceiver of the nothingness? Just that? There is nothing else? Then you realize that yes, there is something in you, a substance. You can call it life, love, power, the fact is that you are that, that substance. Then you realize that that substance is permeating the nothingness, and that it is not limited, it doesn't matter how much the nothingness expands, it is that substance, it is infinite, it is what you are. The nothingness is totally full of being, and being is absolute potential, absolute power.

Think of this nothingness as a blank piece of paper that has absolutely nothing on it. It's still something. Everything that arises, arises from nothingness including the body, mind and thoughts.

Because nothingness exists!

If Nothingness is indeed absolute nothing, then how can one have an experience of it?

I listened at 33:30 and no such thing was said. But even granting he said it, Jordan does not understand God. He has a nice theoretical abstraction it, which is precisely the danger I am pointing out. Just because he can speak about God being ineffable does not in any way mean he is conscious of what God is. And also, notice BTW, how Jordan Hall will now ally himself with the likes of Jordan Peterson and the right-wing thanks to his new Christian identity, showing exactly why mistakes at this level will also spill over into politics. Wilber doesn't understand that the Dao is ineffable and can't be formalized? Come on. Anyone in the Integral community can parrot such cliched profoundness. I'm unsure exactly what Wilber is conscious of, but it seems more than Jordan Hall. But I wouldn't say Wilber is fully conscious of God either. He's conscious of Nothingness which is not the same thing as I'm pointing to. Wilber is not a sacred cow here. He's just a great philosopher relative to Western philosophers, and guys like Jordan and Daniel owe a lot of their knowing to Wilber and the Integral community. They are like Wilber's children. Wilber was smart enough not to get seduced into converting to Christianity and then promoting it across the web. So what does that tell you? Nice try but no. There is no crisis for me here. These people did not understand God, with the exception of Hegel. Their level of understanding of reality is tiny. No! Zizek has no clue what God is. This is intellectual masturbation which is designed to obscure lack of understanding and substance. Zizek is a perfect example of philosophy turned into bullshit. The issue is not that I don't understand Zizek. I do not fully understand his confused mental ejaculations. The issue is that he would not understand me. See, if I fail to understand Zizek, virtually nothing is lost. But if he fails to understand me, Infinity is lost. That's the difference.

@AJBrew you can read NDEs testimony from people who clinically died but doctors were able to bring them back to life in a split second. They all have "seen" the same thing ..a long tunnel with white light at the end and a feeling of serenity and love . What happens after that is utterly unknown. Anything could happen from there ..you could reincarnate into a dolphin or you could become a singularity of pure nothingness forever and ever ..I mean who really knows right ? Luckily we all gonna die in the end and find out sooner or later . So I say no need to rush the answer .let's just appreciate the miracle of life for now .

@Princess Arabia The mind loves to bullshit itself once it has reached a degree of Awakening, it will come up with all sorts of rationalizations and excuse making for not doing the practices and staying disciplined. Once the ego mind gets a little hit on no self or nothingness, it tends to form a spiritual identity and to stop at a certain point of its understanding of reality. No self is good but it's only the tip of an iceberg

@Princess Arabia I understand what you mean. i was honestly questioning what you mean because everyone has a different way of putting appearances, nothingness. But Leo streams his insights in a profound way that is very convincing. That's his life purpose.

Imagine a finite physical universe . It has nothing outside of it. Not empty space, but metaphysical nothingness. How could such a universe exist? Have you ever encountered a physical object with nothing outside of it? For something to be physical it must take up space, and must have other objects outside of it. an infinite physical universe seems like it could resolve the paradox, but it doesn't, physical objects can't be infinite. Because infinity can't be counted, can't be made physical . therefore physical reality is not really physical but an idea of consciousness.

Thanks, i also want to write something important to all man. To progress further spiritually within the creation you have to do this first. Don't do yogic asanas because they can lead to hands free orgasms. 1. Resist the female/attractor outside of you, this means no cumming/sex/sexual thoughts , performing all these acts is you giving your energy away to the feminine/nothingness/attractor that sucks it all away like a demon. Your sperm is not what you think it is. 2. Your subconscious creates reality, do this to progress further: write on youtube : chosen one videos , and subscribe to different channels. Watch a new video that comes out everyday and do what they tell you to do like planting a seed by writing in the comments, also watch the spiritual videos that pop up in your homepage on yt Do this for 2 weeks, no interaction/work with anybody. Just only subconscious reprogramming by watching only 1 type of videos. - your reality will shift - you will understand how ego works - can be very scary , but dont fear.

So after my last awakening, i've found out what a female is. I no longer have human pleasures or sex, all sex happends within. In my present/past experiences, i had the love of the whole universe on my penis that had this feminine black hole vagina energy. And i can do it on command, if i surrender enough or be able to withstand the ecstasy. Female/Woman is the potentiality outside of god you , it's the other and only half that is the opposite of you but also like you because you are something that is born/exist forever in this nothingness/potential (the female aspect) . You as god and all your creativity/creation exist in this nothingness/potential, when you try something new or seek you will interact with this nothingness/potential/attractor to create a new experience within you. This attractor is the female aspect outside of your creation/creativity/stability or who you are as god, that's why life revolves around chasing woman/attractor. Because this attractor is the beginning of al new creation, it's like the start of love. In simple terms, you exist within the female. That's why woman look for 'stability' it's because you as a man/god are a stable infinite creation aspect within the feminine nothingness/potential.

@Princess Arabia What is appearances? What is nothing? What is knowledge? What is energy? How are they related? Are they truth or are they pointers towards that which is? What if our beliefs and definitions of these terms are relative to our interpretation of these terms and what they come to mean for us. Is it possible to go beyond appearances to Absolute Truth? To say that all is appearance seems obvious, but what is the substance of appearance? If ts nothing, then what is nothing? Nothingness is like a womb of pure potentiality and actuality. Nothing is not our ideas of nothing. Anything the mind says that it is, it isn't. But what is this? These are great questions that are serious and profound.

This issue is part of why I have a strong resistance to spiritual work. I have had my entire sense of reality undermined and it instilled me with a deep sense of fear. The main insight that I have been struggling with most is the deeper truth that reality is a dream, an illusion, or a hallucination. My entire sense of physical reality is a construction, and when I become deeply conscious it starts to have a destabilization effect. Sometimes this message is repeated to me in lucid dreams and when I look around the real physical room I get this sense of "This is a fucking dream! What the fuck!" This seems to be the deep extent of self-deception. It seems impossible because everything seems so real yet it is imaginary. This destabilization trauma can be traced back to childhood trauma. It was a sexual incident that happened when I was six, and it had a whole string of trauma responses which shaped the person I became. Part of the destabilization happened when I started lying to myself saying "it was just a nightmare." It was in this moment that I became conscious of my mind's capacity to deceive itself. It drew into question how deeply self-deceived I could possibly be. I started looking around the room with the fear that everything was a hallucination along with my entire life story being a fabrication and with my very existence being drawn into question. In response to this destabilization trauma, I tried to ground myself through a commitment to "truth." I came to believe that I could not love myself without accepting the truth of who I was. I therefore used relative truth as a smokescreen to hide from absolute truth. One example would be "it was not a dream" to ground myself in the face of the deeper truth that reality is a dream. I would go on to use various intellectualizations around which I formed my identity. I would be using relative truth as a crutch to hold onto my sense of reality. As I continued doing trauma work, I began letting go of various intellectualizations that I no longer need. I discovered time and time again that they were means of masking deeper pain even if they were true from a certain point of view. Maybe I cannot love myself so long as I am not conscious of my true nature as God and Love and clinging to material existence out of fear prevents me from awakening to Love. As I tried to use truth to ground myself, I became deeply philosophical. I would make many different theories about reality thinking I was being smart. I started off holding an absolutistic stance around the nature of reality which served to stabilize my sense of reality. As I continued exploring philosophy and truth, I eventually discovered relativism which reintroduced my destabilization. It seemed to imply that all meaning and purpose was relative and not transcendent, which reopened my struggle with meaninglessness. Moral relativism seems a bit scary at first, but it makes perfect sense. Yes its true that somebody could put a gun to my head and say "morality is relative." At the same time you can look all throughout history at religion being used to abdicate the moral high ground while justifying genocide because of the belief that that is what God wanted. I found this a bit destabilizing, but I eventually accepted it. If good and evil are defined relative to perspective or ideology, then it suggests that if Absolute Goodness existed, then it would need to be more foundational than moral judgement. This would need to start with being conscious enough to recognize that moral judgements are imaginary and that I am creating good and evil through imagining them into existence. The more difficult one was the relativity of truth. This undermined my entire sense of reality because it depended on the existence of absolute truth as a correct view or interpretation. This sounded like insanity at first. I eventually came to accept it through epistemic relativism and relativity in logic. Depending on the basic assumptions of any epistemic framework, it will lead to different conclusions which are then held as true. There are also different types of logic like formal logic instead of fuzzy logic. Depending on the situation or how different types of logic or epistemic frameworks are applied, you can reach different conclusions which are valid relative to the underlying framework of the sense making system. This is how I made sense of relative truth, and it suggests that if Absolute Truth exists, then it is more foundational any belief system or epistemic framework. I was actually wrestling with relativity around the same time I discovered Actualized.org. Part of the reason the mind gets stuck on relativism is because it is creating a false sense of acceptance by trying to ground a new sense of reality in the relative truth of relativity. Relativism as an ideology thus becomes an obstacle to deeper levels of consciousness necessary to see Absolute Truth which is more foundational than any perspective. Perhaps I would need to be conscious of how I am constructing true and false in order to make sense of things which would point me to the more foundational Truth. At the end of the relativity rabbit hole, it comes to the truth that reality is relative. For example, material existence is relative to the normal state of human consciousness, but at deeper levels of consciousness you can recognize the non-dual nature of reality and the deeper truth that reality is a hallucination with consciousness being more foundational than material existence. This is the deeper truth that relativism is pointing to, and I haven't fully integrated it because my body, mind, and being are resisting returning to this level of consciousness. There are also scientific reasons to support this radical degree of relativity such as time being relative. Ultimately my entire worldview and my entire sense of reality is relative to my degree of consciousness. As I looked at various spiritual books and started meditating, I eventually had another destabilizing experience. I was listening to an audiobook, Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now. I listened to various insights and started experimenting with them throughout the book. I listened to it all day, while becoming more and more present. It started becoming a deeply pleasant and happy experience of just being present and existing. As I approached the end of the book, I did a deeper meditation which led to a destabilizing experience. It was like pure nothingness was the foundation of existence. Not only was I nothing, but so was everything else nothing. As pure nothingness, I was one with all of existence, making nothing and everything indistinguishable. As I realized that everything was nothing, I started to realize that reality was an illusion which undermined my entire sense of reality. I had never experienced this kind of consciousness before, and I have become afraid of meditation. According to some of the books I read about this, it takes some getting used to when you first start experiencing absolute nothingness. So these are my examples of destabilization trauma. I have come to realize that I have been using the relative truth of spiritual teachings as a smokescreen to prevent the realization of these deeper truths. I now realize that I don't need these intellectualizations which I commonly use as a defense mechanism in a variety of forms. As I healed various traumas, I let go of various intellectualizations and my mind has become increasingly peaceful and present. It still involves a lot of emotional labor because I am undoing the person I became in response to deep trauma. Currently I feel like I am being left with a sense of not knowing, but at the same time not needing to make intellectual schemes. This mental energy was a previous defense mechanism that I no longer need. They were masking pain. How do you guys suggest going about addressing destabilization trauma? I think this is critical for continuing spiritual work because sometimes it makes you feel like you are going insane.

Insightful article on Buddhist perspective on nihilism.. https://buddhaweekly.com/buddhism-has-nothing-to-do-with-nihilism-and-everything-to-do-with-experiencing-why-emptiness-and-nothingness-are-poor-translations-of-shunyata/

@OBEler @Leo Gura Thank you very much. I honestly don't know yet. I'm still integrating the experience. But it has made a very positive impact. Here are some notes from today. Post Trip: Seeing reality from this new lens made me cry tears of Joy a couple times. I broke up in tears multiple times today, reminiscing the experience from yesterday. How profound and intimate it was.. My God. Looking at the sky and seeing the beauty of this creation makes me feel ways I can't explain. I may be the only being at the center of reality and existence, but I don't feel alone one bit. Perhaps it's because I have not had experiences of nothingness and the feeling of being all alone (experiences as I've read), but this life is truly a masterpiece and that feeling of aloneness feels like a bastardization of the truth that I experienced. I know my journey has just started. I just got a little glimpse. I have only scratched the surface. But oh boy does it feel significant. I understand that this consciousness is all that exists, but it feels complete. The world around me may just be an illusion, but it's divinely beautiful. :') I sometimes just kiss my hand in awe and out of Love towards reality. I have always done that but now the love has grown significantly more. It makes my heart melt just writing this. I am grateful for this life experience. It sure is a roller coaster. Truly the best gift. Special thanks to Leo. You have played an important part in my journey.

@Butters imo you are neither. You are nothingness. The perception of being the witnesser or the doer are both just sensory experiences imo