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This has nothing to do with Awakening. You are using arbitrary measures for Consciousness. Consciousness is independent of any such measures. All experience is built up out of distinctions (contrasts). So that doesn't really change. Although when you are very conscious you see the ultimate unity behind all distinctions. You are still imagining stuff in alien mode. It's a hyper form of imagination which is simultaneously very self-aware, unlike the human mode.

Since Reality contains both these infinities, well.... There is an infinity of differently large infinities, see Cantors set-theory. That is really good news: Absolute Reality does not need to imagine all Lilas to go on infinitely. There can be choice. Not all crap has to be imagined. And the opposite view of your existential worries: You will get to experience all beauty, love and adventure imaginable. >It bothers me that God is so unconditionally selfless and has an infinite capacity to remember/forget aspects of itself. >Do you deeply fear that all the consciousness work you do can simply be forgotten by God in an instant and suddenly God imagines itself to be a rat in some sewer after imagining alien consciousness? >This is a deep existential crisis for me That view is deeply dualistic, and cured by a change of perspective happening at Awakening: What you think you are (separate self) is an illusion (moving/arising in you), what you really are is Reality itself (which can not loose or gain anything), and It calls all the shots. It can never die or change. It also doesn't suffer, it has the Illusion of suffering moving in it. It never gains or looses anything. > Why do all this work when you simply can forget all of it as if it didn't even exist. Because what you can gain is so good that it is beyond your wildest dreams. And you actually are It. And you will put the work into it, get to understand/experience it at some point, this life or one of the next. It/You (with a capital Y) decides what gets manifested next: What happens after death, or "You are the only game in town": Francis Lucille "How Is Consciousness Experienced After Death? (Meditation 1 of 24)" > Has God put enough pointers in the imagination just so that it can find its way back? "Ignorance is a bad idea only from the vantage-point of ignorance." But at the end: You need an Awakening of what you really are to fully understand that. But don't worry, the real You can never loose or gain anything. In reality it is all a big joke. And the joke is literally the illusion-separate-self you imagine yourself to be. One day you will laugh, and be fearlessness itself. By knowing what you really are, ever have been, and never can not be. And by knowing and understanding the structure of the "you" having these fears. Hint: What is the you that worries to loose its Awakenings or Enlightenment again? Illusion-arisings (feelings and thoughts) of a separate self moving in that which you really are. You can not fake this understanding, nor just think your way through it. You need an Awakening into what You are, and what Reality is. All of what I have written above is prelimary to that. And also a very true perspective: "Though the view should be as vast as the sky, keep your conduct as fine as barley flour". Why? Because in Lila Karma holds. It can bite back, it is still valid. Cause-effect. Reality is smart, way smarter than the small separate self. So if you think as separate self "Ah, its all a big joke, I do what I want, who cares", bad bad bad idea. If a separate self thinks that, that thinks cause-effect or Karma doesn't hold... It will suffer, and not get to liberation or even relative happiness, until you correct that specific ignorance. Either you have realized what you are, or you better don't fool yourself as separate self "nothing matters"-style. Suffering, or something has to rout you back home.... Its either suffering or understanding. Luckily, at the end, You are It, so you can not avoid going home.... and then, if You want, on another adventure again to express your love. Selling water by the river, "the wave fearing to loose knowing to be river-water"-style

@Leo Gura How does contrast and relativity work when you are in alien conciousness? A lot of what makes up experience is the contrast in things like hot and cold, energized and tired, access and lack of access. If you are just imagining all these differences to have an experience how does it work when you are in alien mode.

Maybe leo didn't reach alien conciousness he just gained pov of sadhguru eyes for a moment.

Hmm.. intriguing. Is understanding in fine detail worthwhile or is it a lesser use of your time and energy? It bothers me that God is so unconditionally selfless and has an infinite capacity to remember/forget aspects of itself. Do you deeply fear that all the consciousness work you do can simply be forgotten by God in an instant and suddenly God imagines itself to be a rat in some sewer after imagining alien consciousness? This is a deep existential crisis for me. Why do all this work when you simply can forget all of it as if it didn't even exist. Has God put enough pointers in the imagination just so that it can find its way back? Are you familiar with the concept of countable and uncountable infinities? Natural/whole numbers are countable infinity while real numbers are uncountable infinity. Do you think that the absolute infinity is countable? In other words, if reality is made out of distinctions, and these distinctions are absolute, then it should be possible to count these infinities or infinite distinctions. Or atleast distinguish them definitively. Can you count these absolute number of distinctions given that you can fairly strongly comprehend/understand them? Or are they uncountable even after understanding them completely? Thoughts.

Awake is somewhat convergent. Alien consciousness is divergent. Is what I understand. @Leo Gura Leo 1) can/have you comprehensively and conclusively understand/understood reality? 2) Can you achieve COMPLETENESS in a way you clearly know that there is nothing more to explore. Have you functionally exhausted all the nook and cranny of infinity/reality?

Oh god, what a genius movie! It literally put tears of joy in my eyes the first time I saw it, although no one else I discussed it with seems to think much of this "weird crap"; oh well. It's one of the best deconstructions of the anthropocentric paradigm - snaps you right out of it, if you allow it. Alien lifeform's total, brutal disregard for "host's'" life, death, bodily integrity, sanity or suffering results, nevertheless, in forms that we can't help but call beautiful and aesthetic, if a bit (or a lot) grotesque. And this, I think, is a very good illustration of what the Absolute is "up to", to the extent we can even discuss such things: it does not care about meaning, or life, or, really, any one thing in particular - IT JUST. EXPLORES. FORM. And every form it produces is, in its own way, beautiful - though some of them might be more difficult for us to appreciate from our finite perspective. Leo's Quote #006 instantly reminded me of this movie; I wonder if it was inspired by it to some extent.

Most of the people are learning the wrong way. If you have trouble with some monkey business like dating or shit. You really need to learn to get into delta and theta brain states so you can reprogram your subconscious (your body). This reprogramming of the subconscious is a tricky business and it will take some months to master it but once you do you will be able to hack your biology and psychology: I feel like too much energy is focused on mental masturbation like alien consciousness and shit while most people who monkey business problems. You are not going to self actualize if you think you are able to skip maslov pyramid stages nor are you doing anybody any good by wiping your spiritual dick out to have a samadhi explosion over yourself.

lol, ye might not believe me, but my sober consciousness has increased so much these days that I live in this "alien god consciousness" every day 24/7. yes not to the same extent as on a psychedelic or a "temporal awakening experience", but it's so much that I feel fully merged with God's mind that a human possibly can while still here and functioning. There is so much light, beauty, interconnection, vastness (esp when driving/outside), majesty, glory, depth of perception, love, intelligence... and my head feels like it's "tripping all the time". I can pick up what someone says and know roughly where they may be at in their level of consciousness, what "work" lies ahead of them, etc.

AWAKE does not require alien consciousness. AWAKE requires that you become conscious of how you imagine the entire world into existence around yourself. It's very direct, very pure, very profound God-Realization. You need to get to the very root of what GOD is. Not as Emptiness or Nothingness, but as yourself imagining everything around you -- including your body, your memories, the Earth, and other people. And including all spiritual teachings and enlightenment. You have to realize that enlightenment, nonduality, Buddhism, meditation, sleep, birth, and death are all imaginary.

Well, isn't your whole recent arc just generated by AI? Alien intelligence... oh wait...it's alien consciousness...nvm

So if awakenings what forum members expericenced = awakenings that Leo experienced. Then (certain number) X awakening = AWAKE? So AWAKE = alien consciousness + other awakenings?

@Leo Gura Isn't that a belief ? God told you ? How many times have you experienced alien awakening and is there a trajectory to it ?

You could also explore coffee table consciousness. But it's a lot less interesting than alien consciousness. Coffee table < ant < mouse < human < alien I have explored, for example, predator consciousness: what it's like to be a predator, like a tiger hunting a deer. Your consciousness is not limited to being human. That's mostly the point.

There is a lot of stuff in that book which you have not validated. Of course Oneness and Unity are true. That's not the issue. It's not distinct. God-Realization at its highest levels turns human consciousness into alien consciousness. It's not an alien lifeform on a distant planet. It's you. You break out from human consciousness into an alien version of consciousness. You are always God and there is always only you. I am NOT talking about meeting or channeling aliens. You are the alien. Right now you are stuck in human consciousness. You can break out of that to experience alien consciousness. It's hard to explain it.

Leo is hyping this alien consciousness to the max. This alien consciousness better be giving me the ability to actualize a bunny out of my ass or I'm going to be disappointed if it is a non actualizing ability. That is the least I expect if he claims this consciousness has 100 x the intelligence of human intelligence.

Perfectly nonsensical like your alien consciousness ? They go into the bubble and go to sleep and wake up. So probably the bubble is a paradigm of psychedelic consciousness of some sort. It is just that the end didn’t make any sense.

That is not at all what I mean by Alien Consciousness. Be careful with those books. They are not much more than beliefs and stories. If you cannot validate it in your direct experience, you cannot consider it true. It is extremely easy to fall into self-deception with those books. Just because something sounds nice or profound does not make it true and it is not in the same realm as Awakening.

Then may I suggest that you study The Law of One: https://www.lawofone.info/, and its auxilliary material: https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/transcripts. "The Law of One material is a series of 106 conversations, called sessions, between Don Elkins, a professor of physics and UFO investigator, and Ra, speaking through Carla Rueckert. Ra states that it/they are a sixth-density social memory complex that formed on Venus about 2.6 billion years ago." These are the most profound resources I have encountered in my 20 years of spiritual work on love, understanding, balance, unity, infinity and conscioussness. The sessions are meticolously recorded (you can listen to the actual recording of each question and answer, and follow the corresponding timeline in the auxiliary materiel) and, for me, is way more advanced and accurate than Leo, Ralston, Wilber, Hawkins etc. I have read/studied the entire Law of One about 10 times and the auxiliary material twice, and each time it amazes me with new insights and understandings. Although it is a huge undertaking to really get the full gist of the material, I hope it may inspire you as it has inspired me. Love, D.

This thread is imaginary, AWAKE is imaginary, alien consciousness is imaginary, 'god' is imaginary, making grand statements are imaginary, me reminding you of all this is imaginary...carry on.

I think the main goal was to show a life form truly alien to our race. Being which operates totally beyond human comprehension and categories. You could probably come up with many theories regarding what exactly happened at the end, but I believe it's secondary to the whole picture. That being said, I also was confused when watching it for the first time.

Personally I don’t think this alien consciousness is going to be a big deal because if I’m wrong it will be an earth shaking revelation on planet earth. Imagine humans being 100x smarter at the price of a pop that Leo will charge for his seminar? Personally I had access to states where I was 10x smarter so I know that it exist but if Leo can access Alien Consciousness he would already be the new Einstein or Elon Musk creating shit instead of typing messages with fellow monkeys on a forum. Also I watched Leo’s last two videos. And although they are top shelf they aren’t cutting edge and I don’t see this 100x alien intelligence back in his speech and his output. In fact I see Leo just being human as the rest of us.

Defining Enlightenment/Consciousness is really difficult. Imagine defining what is "Alien Consciousness". It's like trying to explain what is a computer to a bird.

@Leo Gura does this new alien consciousness awakening negate any of your previous material?

Words again, but direct realization is beyond understanding. Your mind is incapable of making any sense of it. When I say there are levels of enlightenment, I am referring to the brightness of the light, not to its nature. The absolute intensifies or diminishes its light, but it is always light. Whatever is illuminated by the absolute is its creation. In the absence of the light, whether human, elephant, or alien, it is nothing. Call it maya, imagination, or the cosmos, none of it is absolutely real. Ask whether your journey is focused on exploring the jungle of creation, or on intensifying the absolute within. The more transparent your form, the greater the light that will shine through you.