ahmet sukru

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  3. Posted

    Hello, I am going on a 5-day retreat.

    I've rented a cabin within a garden, and during this period, there will be no communication devices, human contact, or even books. I just want to meditate and listen to myself.

    I've been practicing meditation for many years, but this will be my first time going on such a hardcore retreat. I have a plan that includes yoga, breathwork, meditation, psychedelics, mandala painting, playing the guitar, and writing if I feel inspired. I will not brings books because I don't want any inputs as possible. I'd like to prepare a bit in advance since I won't want to do any online research while I'm there. Considering that extended periods of meditation might be challenging, I'm thinking of incorporating yoga before the meditation sessions and interspersing them with breathwork. Since I won't be going outside, I'll also need to bring 5 days' worth of food. I'm planning on consuming minimal food, mainly focusing on vegetables and nuts but I don't have much of an idea about food.

    If you have any advice, experiences to share, or videos you'd like to recommend on this topic, I would greatly appreciate it.

    Thank you.

  4. Posted

    3 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

    Observe how thoughts go back and forth - past, future, past, future - back and forth to keep the story in tome going. And thoughts updates the story as it goes along. 

    During meditative times, I like to let the extended story go and be with what is actual. I may sit in nature and observe. Here, thoughts may arise - yet they have a different flavor than the “me” story. A different flavor than the thoughts trying to figure stuff out. Here, if thoughts arise they are inter-connected to feelings, experience and what is appearing all around me right now. This flavor of thought is delicious. It is curious, appreciative, awe. 

     

    1 hour ago, Matt8800 said:

    @ahmet Visualizing and meditation are two different things. Meditation is for developing concentration and insight to deconstruct the ego. Visualizing is used for energy work.

    Thanks a lot

  5. Posted

    13 hours ago, iTommy said:

    You're right, visualization (manifesting etc.) usually does feed the ego-self, trying to get it to become a stronger, a more self-actualized ego. When you combine concentrative/mindful meditation with manifesting, then you're also dissolving ego-structures, and as you mentioned, you're more easily able to build a more healthy sense of self.

    It's useful to first build a strong ego, and then transcend this one, since you're more grounded at that point in life. I think mindfulness needs to be applied here, afterall, the ego/self-identification is not you and fighting something that is illusory (the ego) doesn't do much good. It's good to embody the ego, accepting it fully and eventually seeing it for what it is. Self-actualization helps with that, and visualization compliments this. I find both self-actualization and self-transcendence important. Having one foot grounded in duality, the other in non-duality :) 

    This comment is pure gold. Thank you

  7. Posted · Edited by ahmet sukru

    There could be many discussions about it but don't forget the importance of just going with it. If you create your set up and directly start working everyday even if you don't like it, you will be much more likely to get that creative flow state. And you can't predict when will it be, so you have to have as many shots as possible if you are an artist. 

    Psychedelics are enhancing creativity for sure, but I didn't make art on psychedelics yet, maybe because trips was too powerful. I will try microdosing for this. 

    I am not sure about how meditation affects it but I think it has positive effect since it grows my consciousness and dissolve my ego. But on the other hand I have to swim between ideas and thoughts to create. David lynch talks a lot about it. I would like to hear ideas of you guys about this too. Maybe do nothing technique would be effective on this. 

  9. Posted

    8 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

    Do you think it’s possible to be in a meditative state while thought impulses are arising in the mind?

    I think Shin answered this:
     

    14 hours ago, Shin said:

    Yes and no,

    Being conscious while you think is meditation.


    Still "simply observing while your thoughts arise" and "forcing your mind to think about a future situation" seems very seperate to me.
     

  10. Posted

    12 hours ago, iTommy said:

    Those are quite the expectations you have there. I'd recommend you drop those, because if you really expect meditation to be like that, then you most likely become ridgid and frustrated when the opposite happens (and it will)

    Yes I agree with you on that, but I couldn't find any other way to describe. 
    Actually it is not what I expect from "during" a meditation session but from the meditation in a long run.
     

    12 hours ago, iTommy said:

    Both have a different purpose, and should work well combined. With one you're trying to quiet the mind, the other tries to impose/feel into, a preferred/self-actualized future.

    Thank you for your beautiful explanation, but one more thing came to my mind:
    What about the ego? Meditation surely dissolves your ego and your attachment to it,
    But when you visualize about the things YOU want, (money, career whatever) wouldn't it feed your ego?
    Maybe they both work together like "first dissolving your current ego and building another one which will be more useful"..
     
    Btw, I don't discuss them as spiritual or metaphysical things, I wonder more about psychological side.

  12. Posted · Edited by ahmet sukru

    Hi,
    I am meditating since (almost) 2 years and visualizing for a couple of months. I see both of them as beneficial.
    But a thought is grinding in my head since I have a visualization habit which I do right after my meditation sessions.

    When I meditate I expect to be:

       - Fully present, Not be in the past or the future
       - Not forcing my mind to do anything, no thoughts
       - Not trying to be something or someone, allowing to accept myself or whatever I feel about myself

    But when I visualize I am:

        - Fully on the future
        - Forcing my mind to create a vision. thoughts are on
        - Trying to be something that I create on my mind which is basically not me right now

    It seems like they are opposite kind of works to me. Sometimes I feel I am trying to do what I avoid on other one with my mind.
    But the suprising thing to me is I see some people think they are "meditating" while they are actually "visualizing" (or manifesting)
    Or they somehow combine them, even sell them or see them very closely.
    What do you think about this issue?
    Are they contradict with each other? or opposite?

  13. Posted · Edited by ahmet sukru

    @Dodo   In my opinion, there is a ton of misconception about LOA.
    I think LOA is not a magic tool that gives what you want metaphysically to you (as they mentioned in "the secret")
    You just have to be a person that will be suitable to what you want to get. There are millions of details that will lead you to your goal but you are not aware all of them. It is all about who you are, your mindset and how you see events. And it's mostly happening on your subconscious mind.
    LOA helps you to change those things for you to become the person who can reach those goals. 
    For example, once you believe you are a succesful business man, you start to see business opportunities everywhere, go out and chase customers, be more confident etc. When It works it almost feels like it's magical.
    But if you are at a opposite state of mind, you see only obstacles and negativitiy at the exact same positions.
    Again, this is just my opinion, I can't be sure if it works metaphysically or not.

  15. Posted

    1 hour ago, Serotoninluv said:

    This is just my experience with psychedelics, but that's not what it's about for me at all. My psychedelic teachers don't give a rat's ass about what I want. I've been scolded several times for arriving to class with a list of things I want. A couple times it was absolutely brutal. My list of wants go "poof!" and the teacher begins teaching lessons. I'll never bring a list of wants in to class again. At most, I may bring in a very humble request. 

    For me, higher doses of psychedelics is the absolute worst personal development tool I can imagine. The lessons are not about that at all. They are completely post-personal and post-human. It's like arriving with a personality that wants something for its self and the teacher kills the personality and begins teaching post-personal lessons. Later, the personality revives and asks "What's in it for me? I'm not getting what I want". Ime, that is a personality that is totally missing the point.

    If I was to try and use psychedelics as a PD tool, I would only microdose or minidose.

    @Serotoninluv Wow, so you have psychedelic teachers.
    What do you study and where are you? 

  16. Posted

    1 hour ago, Consilience said:

    Any dose could lead to an awakening experience just as one could awaken right now, sober

     

    36 minutes ago, FoxFoxFox said:

    @ahmet sukru No psychedelic will enlighten you (not DMT, not Ayahausca), because you are already enlightened. All you have to do is to take away the doubts and false beliefs about your true nature. You need mental clarity for that. Psychedelics do not produce mental clarity. Quite the opposite. You might have amazing, transcendental experiences and trips, but at the end of the day, they are just beautiful phenomena. Nothing more. 

    @Consilience

    @FoxFoxFox

    Thanks a lot for valuable information

  17. Posted

    1 hour ago, TheAvatarState said:

    @ahmet sukru smart, that's a perfect beginning dose. Everyone is a little different, just based on bodyweight, natural tolerance, etc. Just because of my experience with acid, 125ug doesn't feel like much anymore. Just curious, how were your visuals at that dose?

    @TheAvatarState   Visuals seemed really pleasant and saturation was clearly higher than normal.
    I looked outside from my window (we live in relatively nature based location) and trees was really alive and I felt how they dance with the wind together.
    I looked at mirror and my face was really weird but it was so fun to watch how my face changes I watched my face for over 1 hour :D
    My hand seemed like a limb of an animal and my hair was like alive.
    But I didn't see anything so extraordinary, like hallucination etc.
    The interesting thing to me, at the first trip; I was seeing crazy colorful patterns when I close my eyes, at the second trip: little weird creatures, but at the third time, I saw nothing when I close my eyes. Just blank empty space. Also my strongest trip was the third one. Do you have any idea about it?

  18. Posted · Edited by ahmet sukru

    9 minutes ago, TheAvatarState said:

    @ahmet sukru LSD "can" lead to awakening experiences, but the way it achieves that is through forceful and horrific tearing apart of your ego. Speaking from personal experience, you can die at 500+ ug but it ain't pretty, and the confusion surrounding the experience makes it hard to bring back anything meaningful. Not recommended. 

    However, LSD is a fantastic tool for exploring your consciousness. It enables you to see things in a new light, perhaps more holistically. 

    My best experiences were outdoors in beautiful scenic areas, and with music playlists strategically thought out beforehand. There's something about tripping outside that can't be beat, and music can be the ethereal soundtrack to that journey (don't do more than 250ug if outside, and make sure to have a trip sitter). Music is not the point of focus, it's the launching point that augments the experience OUT THERE.  Safe travels! 

    @TheAvatarState Thank you :) 
    I used 120ug (as they told me, I'm not sure) and it feels just right to me for now. I didn't went crazy and it was pretty strong at the same time.

  19. Posted

    10 minutes ago, FoxFoxFox said:

    @ahmet sukru My advice will not help you with your problems but it will certainly be of help for enlightenment. When tripping, become aware of how unaffected the basis of experience is. I mean you might be tripping really hard experiencing all sorts of phenomena, but at the background of your existence, YOU are still there like you have always been. This "YOU" that i'm talking about is not the egoic "I" but the primordial "I". It's the Self. 

    It becomes really easy to perceive during an intense psychedelic experience, and later you can identify it in your everyday experience much more easily. You'll become aware of it while awake or dreaming. Heck, you could even sense in deep sleep after the fact, since in deep sleep the Self is directly experiencing pure void. 

    @FoxFoxFox Thank you, I am also interested in enlightenment but I have to arrange some stuff on my life first.
    I will definetely take your advice into account.
    Do you think lsd can lead enlightenment experiences or you need something like DMT or ayauhasca?
    Because this is what can I find right now.

  20. Posted

    5 minutes ago, Pure Imagination said:

    - I guess a better way to put it is release all your expectations. You can attempt to guide your trip in the direction you want, but it doesn’t always work out that way. Intention is still important though, otherwise you wouldn’t really have a shot at getting the insights you’re looking for.

    - I recommend tripping in silence your first few times so you can take in raw reality. Music can help, but it is equally useful to be able to trip without any “additives.”

    - In my experience, I don’t get much out of psychedelics when I trip with others, even if they meditate. You’re not able to truly turn inward because you need to split your attention also towards your friend. But tripping together can also deepen relationships so if that’s what you’re looking for then psychedelics are great for that.

    - It depends on your approach.  Being at home would probably be the most productive, but if you’re able to be still and focused in nature then there’s nothing wrong with adding a little Mother Earth to your trip :) 

    @Pure Imagination Thanks a lot for your detailed explaniton, Helped a lot :)

  21. Posted · Edited by ahmet sukru

    33 minutes ago, Nahm said:

    Try what? Who’s trying? Body’s moving on it’s own accord in appearance. Notice yet?

    @Nahm I will try to notice and trust.
    I can estimate what you are pointing but you see, it's a bit complicated for someone who is just started psychedelics so still I need to set what I should do. (at least before the trip)
    Otherwise I just can watch tv shows or go to parties with psychedelics which will lead to a terrible experience :) 

  23. Posted

    9 minutes ago, Highest said:

    S@ahmet sukru Surrender completely, let go of all ego resistence and control. Let it unfold the way it wants. It worked on me on mushrooms about 3 years back, I had an awesome and profound experience. 

    This is my personal advice to you ??

    @Highest Thanks a lot for your advice.
    But what do you recommend to do while surrendering? 
    Just sitting on a couch? lying down while listening music? meditation? or whatever I desire at that moment? or it doesn't matter?

  25. Posted · Edited by ahmet sukru

    1 hour ago, okulele said:

    @ahmet sukru Just a small intention being kept like: "Surrendering to whatever will come for the good of all."

    Maybe write it somewhere you can see and remind yourself every now and then that this is what you are doing, and that the result of the trip is none of your business.

    @okulele But when I dont mind the result of the trip I am just walkin around, listening music, observing around, looking at mirror etc. I wonder what should I do as an activity. Should I meditate, contamplate, or just close my eyes, or do art or whatever I desire at that minute and don't mind anything?