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  4. Posted

    On 7/26/2018 at 10:48 PM, Isaac Stamper said:

    I’m a rising senior in High School, and am currently balls deep in the college search process. I have thus far been met with discouragement, though, because all of the schools I have visited have a very orange/green/yellow vibe. Are there any schools that have begun to dip their toes into Turquoise?

    Search for the colleges that Stan Grof and David R. Hawkins went to. 

    Although you will find people that began to dip their toes into turquoise in green communities. 

    I personally know a yellow/turquoise guy thay hangs out mostly in green communities. 

  7. Posted · Edited by Dan Arnautu

    @Tony 845 Thanks. I just found a pdf online of "Enlightenment through the path of kundalini". Is there any specific chapter that addresses this and how to handle it? I was browsing through it and hadn't found anything specific on the symptoms I was having.

    I don't want to recreate the experience. It's way too much. But it almost always happens close to the 15 min mark in meditation. 3rd time already. So I can't meditate anymore until I learn how to handle this.

    Thanks a lot for the support. I really appreciate it.

  8. Posted

    @Martin123 It caught me by surprise. Again, it feels way too strong to handle. I might have done something wrong, so don't congratulate me just yet.

    It's feels trying to fit a nuclear reactor into a light bulb. Glad I could snap out of it by moving my body and focusing on the breath. It renders me useless for the following hour afterwards. Also frightening as fuck. You feel like you're gonna explode or something.

    I just want to meditate and observe my thoughts and emotions without getting caught up with them. I'm not chasing mystical experiences just yet, especially this strong.

  9. Posted · Edited by Dan Arnautu

    Since a few days ago, I think I'm having kundalini awakenings or A (sg.) kundalini awakening.

    I don't know how to handle it as I never researched it. The symptoms I looked for on the web confirm it is one. It's frightening as fuck. I don't know if I messed something up and had awoken it accidentally but feels like a very high voltage going through a very weak light bulb.

    Close to the 15 minute mark in meditation I am getting a short but intense immersion into nondual awareness, things start to feel like melting, my whole body starts tingling and feeling like it's on fire, extreme heat everywhere, even if the environment is cold. At that point my heartbeat starts to race uncontrollably and I try to focus on the breath and on the feeling itself and not the thoughts.

    I ground myself, get out of lotus position and deal with the aftermath. My body is shaking for the following 30min -1 hour, and I feel a slight tingling in my lower spine for a few hours afterwards.

    This is the 3rd time it happened I think in the course of a week. The energy feels a lot stronger than what I can handle. Any help is appreciated.

    How do I stop it from rising? Is it just a phase? Will it pass? 

    I don't know what's happening. I won't meditate again until I know if I'm doing something wrong and I'm just making it worse.  

    I also don't have the money right now to buy the book on the dangers of meditation and yoga from Leo's book list. I think there lies my answer, but I gotta wait a while for that and your help would be much appreciated if you know anything.

     

  10. Posted

    19 minutes ago, Consept said:

    I'd actually put Julien and Tyler at yellow. Some of there content is way more advanced than just pick up. However their market is definitely orange so I think they can easily slip into orange as that's where the money is 

    Hmm, maybe.

    Allthough, I think Julien is going through a full on green phase, comical clothing style and all. 

    Yeah, almost all of their audience is orange. Tyler has to hold the whole RSD brand together, and at this point I think his business is starting to stunt his growth at orange, with a little lenicency towards green (cuz he has a fraction of his audience at green too) . 

  11. Posted

    @Cepzeu My pleasure. ;)

    @d0ornokey Good addition. I love Jocko. Though David R. Hawkins was already in there.

    @BjarkeT Thanks. Feel free to help us make it bigger.

    1 hour ago, bejapuskas said:

    @Dan Arnautu  Awesome! By the way, how are Tyler and Julien in green instead of orange, I don't get it... Maybe I misunderstand them or not know their content enough...

    Julien deleted all his pickup videos and wants to be a pure self-help teacher now from what I saw. I created some of his recent facebook ads and social media creatives and from the content I needed to go through for that, it seems that he is moving into green pretty well.

    He wants to teach people how to get over childhood trauma, insecurities, learn how to meditate, become awesome human beings etc. He is not interested in teaching people how to pick up girls and have sex anymore. He just released 'Transformation Mastery Academy', which is pretty dope.

    Tyler also recently got into healthy vegan eating, juicing, taking herbs, getting rid of outcome dependency, teaching how to build genuine relationships and confidence etc. He still has a plenty of orange, but he is slowly moving into green.

    1 hour ago, bejapuskas said:

    Was Gandhi actually turquoise or green? Where is Nelson Mandela on the spiral, is he mostly green, or above?

    I think Nelson Mandela was green, although I haven't studied him that much.

    Hmmm, yeah, on second thought, Gandhi might also have also been only green, but idk. I started his autobiography ('Experiments with Truth') a while ago but I got bored of it a quarter way through. I don't know him well enough. What I know of him is from the autobiography and the movie 'Gandhi'.

  12. Posted

    2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    Actually, even if you are solidly at Green it is very likely you still have lessons to learn from healthy Blue and Red and even Purple role models.

    Hmm, I don't know what healthy Red or Purple would look like. I don't know these stages very well. I'm waiting for your videos on these two and then I'm gonna delve into the books on spiral dynamics. 

    Thank you for the advice. I'm gonna definitely check what's left to integrate and learn from those as well now that you pointed this out.

  13. Posted · Edited by Dan Arnautu

    @Lorcan I gave the list based on my own level and teachers I resonate with. I am almost fully into green, with a bit of orange to integrate so I don't need stage red or blue role models.

    That's why I invite you to come up with your own examples for the stages you need, especially because different people resonate with different role models. I am trying to make this a group exercise.

  14. Posted · Edited by Dan Arnautu

    This is what I have till now. You can add yours.

    Stage Orange Role Models

    • Gary Vaynerchuk
    • RSD Max
    • RSD Tyler
    • RSD Jeffy
    • Todd Valentine
    • Robert Greene
    • Tai Lopez
    • Ray Dalio
    • Jack Canfield
    • Bob Proctor
    • Christian Guzman
    • Thomas Frank 
    • Shawn Thomas
    • Patrick Bet-David
    • Evan Carmichael
    • David Goggins
    • Jordan Peterson
    • Tim Feriss
    • Aaron Marino
    • Arnold Schwarzenegger
    • Kinobody
    • Stephen Covey
    • Napolean Hill
    • Cal Newport
    • Seth Godin
    • Robert Kiyosaki
    • Neil Strauss
    • Coach Corey Wayne
    • Dale Carnegie
    • Brian Rose
    • Will Smith

    Stage Green Role Models

    • Vishuddha Das
    • Krystal Aranyani
    • RSD Tyler
    • RSD Julien
    • Bob Marley
    • Psyched Substance  
    • Bill Gates
    • Neil Strauss
    • Richard Branson

    Stage Yellow Role Models

    • Joe Rogan
    • Geoffrey Miller
    • Leo Gura
    • Jonathan Haidt
    • Marting Seligman
    • Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
    • Abraham Maslow
    • Joseph Campbell
    • Peter Ouspensky
    • David Bohm
    • Einstein
    • Douglas Hofstadter
    • Steven Pinker
    • Noam Chomsky
    • Don Beck
    • Richard Feynman
    • Jacque Derrida
    • Michel Foucault
    • Leonardo da Vinci

    Stage Turquoise Role Models

    • Sadhguru
    • Leo Gura
    • Mooji
    • Shinzen Young
    • Om Swami
    • Adyashanti
    • Stan Grof
    • Ram Dass
    • Wayne Dyer 
    • Osho
    • Don Miguel Ruiz
    • Ken Wilber 
    • David Deida
    • Eckhart Tolle
    • Byron Katie
    • Marcus Aurelius
    • Plato
    • Epictetus
    • Seneca
    • Socrates
    • Dr. David R. Hawkins
    • Carlos Castaneda
    • Peter Ralston
    • Jed McKenna
    • Alan Watts
    • Martin Ball
    • Gandhi
    • Matt Kahn

  15. Posted

    1 hour ago, Krisena said:

    People can be motivated to do their work for other reasons than pure industriousness. For example a person who is high in creativity (sub-openness) or curiosity (sub-openness) who are driven by the need to let this energy find an outlet. Just as one example.

    Seriously, dude, you need to read more about this. Your idea of how the nature of the Big 5 and what you can read into it is too simplistic. You seem to use it more as an excuse to judge people and act out discrimination. I shudder to think that you would automatically dismiss someone because they have a low conscientiousness score. Again, I recommend checking out the sources I mentioned.

    Calling people machiavellian just because they won't share sensitive information about themselves is just deluded. Yeah, sure, you don't think the information is sensitive, but have you thought about what the other person might feel? Because you can absolutely use someone's Big 5 score to manipulate them and discriminate against them, just like you're proving with your very words. To me it just comes off as a way for you to denigrate people if they don't indulge your personal curiosity about them. Like I mentioned, there are perfectly valid reasons why someone wouldn't share that information.

    Excuse me for using such strong words, but apparently my message isn't getting through.

    I will look more into it. I'm open to being wrong. And of course I don't know everything about the big 5.

    I think I am not judging people here though. People are telling you how they are on these tests. I recall a question on the dark triad where it asks you if you like to pick on people or bully them. I ain't judging them as a bully in this case. They just told me. Just as unconscientious people tell you they are disorganized.

    In my experience until now, all the unconscientiouss people I met were unreliable. I am open to seeing the opposite in the future. I would love to see a reliable cunconscientiouss person. That would tell me I have a lot more to learn. It hasn't happened until now though.

    I'll tell you this though. I personally know extraordinary musicians that are highly unconscientiouss, like, world-class. So you do have a point.  But, although they are great musicians and they are my colleagues, our coach tells me often enough that they show up late for lessons and events, rely solely on talent and little work, and are very forgetful. They didn't even show up for the free lessons they won. And lessons with this coach are very expensive.

    I dismiss people with a low conscientiousness score because I've been on both sides of the spectrum and that would fit my future business needs. For the businesses I'm gonna start in the future I'm probably not gonna accept people with a score lower than 80. Might seem harsh at first glance, but tough titty. I don't have time to hold your hand all the way. I want self-motivated, hard working, organized and disciplined people to work with me. People that can't wait to get to work the next day because it brings them more joy than leisure activities, just like in my case.

    If I wanted to hire a cashier I wouldn't worry too much about conscientiousness. They are gonna do the job. What I'm talking about is creating a strong team to build an amazing business. I can't afford loose ends.

    I might hire people with low agreeableness though because they provide a different perspective and cut through bullshit, but I won't make a compromise on conscientiousness. 

    Finally, I won't judge people if they don't want to take the test. If they don't want to share them with me, I'm gonna find out how they are anyway through observation. Usually I'm not giving them out of curiosity, but to protect myself if they have a high dark triad score. It saved my ass many times.

    For example, psychopathic and machiavellic roommate offered to sign a paper for my university while I was in another country. Some kind of legal protocol needed to be made in order for him to be able to do that. He later admitted that he could have used that signature for anything, even buying a house or take credit in my name. I knew he was machiavellic and would have no shame in fucking people close to him over for personal gain, so I was very cautious and did not give it to him. This is just one instance out of many.

    In my mind, better safe than sorry.

    I'm not trying to prove you wrong. I appreciate your perspective and think it can be valid. It just hasn't been validated with my personal experience yet, and It's just a personal preference not to have low conscientiousness work colleagues around me.

  16. Posted · Edited by Dan Arnautu

    2 hours ago, Krisena said:

    That means that you shouldn't necessarily see your personality as something "to be improved upon" - in fact, the science shows that it's more or less impossible to change your Big 5 personality anyway.

    Your personality is you, and while yes, it's important to fit into the world, it's a perspective that gets too heavily weighted in today's society where it's the buyer's market when it comes to labour. We are asked to sacrifice ourselves in the name of the corporations we work for.

    Since your personality is you, you should instead seek to make the world into a place that will nurture you and place yourself in situations and contexts that synergize with your personality so that you can exist in the world as a healthy human being.

    At first I thought that too. We have to keep in mind that science doesn't do many studies with outliers. Most people aren't willing to change. That's why the results can reflect that.

    With self-development work, I elevated my conscientiousness score from 56 to 95, my agreeableness score from 80 to 98, my Honesty-Humility (Hexaco) from 46 to 90 and decreased my machiavellianism from 30 to 4. Also, the anxiety sub-trait of Emotionality decreased from around 60 to 33.

    Change is very possible. The problem is that this involves PERSONALITY change. You are changing everything about you, from how you act to how think and how you emote. How many people are actually willing to do this - to kill their current personality so that a new one emerges? 

    Only the outliers will do this. The rest of the people will remain stuck with the same problems for the rest of their lives.

    What you are saying is equivalent to someone saying: "Why the hell should I change? I don't need to change. I can remain a lazy asshole. I just need to find an environment that accepts me as a lazy asshole, and then we will live happily ever after."

    That's just the devil rationalizing his behavior and avoiding deep inner work. What makes you unique won't die in the process - only what's impure. But I challenge you to find that for yourself.

  17. Posted

    2 hours ago, Annoynymous said:

    well thank you for your recommendation, but I don't find these direct enough. You don't have to say that I am doing good, because first of all, if I am that much good, u wouldn't have given me so many recommendations. I myself feel that I have got lots of improvement in order to touch "good" mark.

    I want you tell me exactly how you feel about my assesment result. if it shows some positives, tell it. if it shows some negative, tell it also. I need an honest review based on personal recommendation, not generalization.

    Please read my reply more carefully.

    I said there is nothing wrong with being introverted. I am too. IF it limits you in some way though, I offered to give you helpful resources.

    High agreeableness is perfect IF you are also assertive. I don't know if you are. In case you aren't, I gave you some resources for that.

    So you may only have to address conscientiousness and emotional stability, which is at least 10x better than most people that gave me their results.

    Most people are shipwrecks, let me tell you that. So be glad you may only have those two to improve.

    I personally need to work on assertiveness and anxiousness for example.

  18. Posted

    2 hours ago, Krisena said:

    You can't divide it into as many categories as you want, only as many as are reasonably independent from each other. If two sub-traits always move in the same direction (but are maybe offset by a little factor) then they are for intents and purposes the same trait.

    What they're finding is that the big 5 traits can be broken down into new independent traits... Basically a more granular model.

    For example, conscientiousness, which can be broken up into two major sub-traits: order and industriousness. We can all agree that both order and industriousness is a part of conscientiousness, but we can also see that order and industriousness are not the same thing. The degree to which you put your environment in order (which includes traits like perfectionism) and the degree to which you work hard. The statistics confirm this. People can actually be high in order and low in perfectionism and vice versa, though these sub-categories will be a bit more similar than the big 5 categories are similar to other big 5 categories.

    Yeah, I was saying that making it into a more granular model (e.g. assigning low openness and high agreeableness a term) just causes needless complexity. You can just call the traits for what they are.

    Yes, the big 5 traits are composed of multiple sub-traits, as you say, of course. And I agree with the fact that one can be high on one sub-trait and low on another of the same dimension of the big 5.

    I think we can both agree though that someone has a score of 10 or less in conscientiousness doesn't have even a decent score at any of the sub-traits of conscientiousness. For someone to be high in perfectionism and low on every other sub-trait, the conscientiousness score should still of more than a 10. 

    2 hours ago, Krisena said:

    It depends on the job in question because different types of jobs are optimally filled by different personality styles.

    And you also have to take into account that people who have experience and/or a high level of skills have found a way to work that suits their personality style, regardless of conscientiousness.

    I am personally a low conscientiousness person, specifically high order/low industriousness. This means that I'm pretty lazy by nature. Does that mean that I'm lazy at work? No, because a job is a job and my livelihood depends on me doing it right. I will however value my free time and make sure I get a lot of extra time for idling, which means that you won't see me working myself to death for you.

    People with high conscientiousness have other problems that people without high conscientiousness don't suffer from. I recommend checking out Jordan Peterson's lectures on the subject.

    Of course, I wouldn't want a highly agreeable person as my bodyguard. I would want a psychopath that is very low on agreeableness. No personality type is wrong. Also, some are better than others depending on the environment you're in. 

    People that are trying to avoid work are not ones I would like to hire. I want people that love to work, that enjoy it. Why would I hire someone that doesn't love the work they do? Of course, I'm not talking about basic cashier jobs. But, if you are a video editor for example, I give you exciting projects and you aren't willing to work hard for them and don't enjoy working, why would I want to keep you around? 

    Hiring a person higher in conscientiousness is always a bigger win. They will work harder for you. And that doesn't mean you shouldn't pay them accordingly. I am willing to pay for high quality work. And so do most conscious employers.

    2 hours ago, Krisena said:

    Isn't it only natural to be wary of people who want to know your personality? What motivations do they have for wanting to know what can potentially be very intimate and sensitive information that can easily be used to manipulate you? To me it seems more rational to be suspicious of the person who wants to know your personality than to be suspicious of the person who doesn't feel comfortable handing out that information.

    In other words, I think this is 180 degrees the other way around - if anything, it indicates machiavellianism to want to know other people's personality profiles. However, that's also an exaggeration. The simple fact is that neither the degree to which you want to know someone's personality nor the degree to which you are willing to give other people insight into your personality is indicative of machiavellianism. There exists completely normal, down to earth, legitimate reasons for both.

    I forgot to add a caveat. I always offer my results first. My machiavellians score is 0. Why would you be suspicious of me for taking the test then?

    And I don't think it's sensitive information. If somebody is anxious, you will see it anyway. If they are agreeable, you will see it anyway eventually. Why not cut the effort and get it over with faster? Why waste time figuring each other out?

  19. Posted

    5 hours ago, Annoynymous said:

    According to big 5,  I am -

    Extraversion - 22 percentile

    Emotional Stability - 39 percentile

    Agreeableness - 76 percentile

    Conscientiousness - 15 percentile

    Intellect/Imagination - 80 percentile

    anyone got any thought on this?

    You are doing good. Like all of us, there is always room for improvement though.

    Extraversion

    • It's ok to be introverted if it doesn't limit you from doing certain things. If it does, you need to build self-confidence and self-esteem. I can suggest some resources if you have that problem.

    Emotional stability

    • If you have a high anxiety score, get specialized help or go through some books that will help you with it. Some that I recommend:
      • Letting Go by Dr. David R. Hawkins
      • The Anxiety & Phobia Workbook

    Agreeableness

    • Highly agreeable people usually have a hard time standing up for themselves. They avoid conflict at all costs. They smooth the water.
      • High agreeableness is balanced with assertiveness training
        • The Self-Authoring and Future Authoring program by Jordan Peterson
        • The Assertiveness Workbook
        • No More Mr. Nice Guy book
        • Mate by Geoffrey Miller (the chapter on the 'Tender Defender')
      • Other tips for highly agreeable people
        • Say exactly what you mean, even if the truth is nasty. 
        • Figure out what you want (create a vision and set goals)
          • This will help you observe when your boundaries are crossed

    Conscientiousness

    • Start to do things that require or build discipline
      • Do military service
      • Go to the gym a set number of times a week
      • Build good organizational habits
      • Go to bed and wake up at the same hour every day
      • Create weekly and daily schedules
      • Make your bed every morning
      • Work as an assistant for an important person
      • Work for go-getters

    Intellect/Imagination

    • This is basically 'Openness to Experience' - you are open to new ideas, concepts and experiences
      • Be careful because high openness to experience and low emotional stability is often correlated with mental illness and psychosis (we are in the same boat here). Evolutionary psychologists advise you to be very cautious in these cases.
        • Unless we work on our neurosis, there is a high chance for real psychological problems in the future. 
      • High openness can also make you believe all sorts of whacky ideas so also watch out for that. It's ok to transcend logic, but it's stupid to throw it away and not use it anymore. 

     

  20. Posted

    37 minutes ago, Krisena said:

    The Big 5 can actually be divided further into 10 and 27 categories of more or less independent factors. The "high openness, low conscientiousness" person is a thing. They will still work on pure motivation, and perfectionism (which is a subfactor of conscientiousness together with industriousness) isn't always needed, and even then, someone with a generally low conscientiousness score might be perfectionistic enough. Whether someone would want to hire you: It all depends.

    Yeah, you can divide it in as many categories as you want. I don't know if that would be helpful though. I think it would cause needless complexity to create archetypes with The Big 5.

    I don't know, from my experience, every person I tested with a conscientiousness score of less than 50 was very unreliable as an individual. Geoffrey Miller tended to be of the same opinion in the book 'Spent', and you can find a few authors in the reference section of the book that would think the same.

    Tai Lopez also uses this model for hiring. He doesn't even accept job applications if you don't have a score over 50 on agreeableness, conscientiousness and emotional stability (and even this estimation is conservative on my part) and if you don't have a score lower than 30-40 on each of the dark triad aspects.

    Even if the person were actually reliable in reality with a low conscientiousness score, I would not bet on it and I would play it safe and I hire someone else. Now, to each his own, of course.

    1 hour ago, Krisena said:

    Not true at all. People can have many legitimate reasons for not wanting to take personality tests. To say that people have bad characteristics because they don't want to take a personality test is just wrong.

    I totally agree. What I'm talking about is them being suspicious of you if you were curious about their results. That would be a red flag for me.

    'Why do you want me to take the test? What are your hidden motives? Are you trying to exploit me? etc.'

    That can indicate machiavellianism. Not necessarily, but I would watch out for it. People who are not manipulative usually aren't that paranoid. When you are manipulative you need to watch your back at every step for someone to get even or stab you in the back

    1 hour ago, Krisena said:

    It's no guarantee. People with these traits are just as likely to have already learned to blend in with society.

    I don't quite get what you mean. Do you mean that they can be decent, functional members of society or do you mean that you can't identify them with these tests? Please clarify.

    If it's the latter, yes, they do blend well in society, but you can identify them.

    I had the most shocking realization when my roommate scored almost 100 in all the dark triad aspects. Worse, he was highly conscientious, charismatic, with a big success drive, and a high IQ. He could easily be a modern day Hitler. I analyzed his behavior over the course of a year. It's downright horrifying how they think, although it can be useful in certain environments.

    This guy wants to become dean of the law university, and he told me all sorts of sneaky plans to fuck people over and get in power. He already applied some of them, and thus he is now vice president of a department in an international law community.

    He tried to manipulate me many times, from little things to big things. If I didn't know his scores, I would be in deep shit right now.

    I know how to thread when I'm around him now. He can never manipulate me now that I know the scores and he knows that too, so he made me some sort of ally because he knows I'm his polar opposite and he can benefit from it. He tells me all the manipulations he wants to do with the education system, law system, relationships he has etc.

    Watch your backs, folks. It's no joke.

     

  22. Posted

    16 minutes ago, Cepzeu said:

    Interesting, thank you. I wasn't aware of this. Always hear people mentioning it, even Leo around on the forum.

    Myers-Briggs is a model from the 1940's-50's. It's very old. A lot of breakthrough science on personality has come out since then. 

    All the others I mentioned are very new and cutting edge.

    More and more studies are starting to show that almost all personality tests from past to present can boil down to the 5 dimensions of the big 5 + general IQ, which evolutionary psychologist Geoffrey Miller calls 'The Central 6'. 

    The Big 5 + The Dark Triad are very powerful tools to use in your arsenal.

    Give them to any potential date, any potential business partner, every close friend, every family member, every coworker and every boss. 

    If you know how to read the results it will save you years of frustration with people and you will be able to avoid the ones that will fuck you over and make your life a living hell.

    Don't underestimate the power of these two assessments. They are as powerful as brain scans.

    You will be able to identify sociopaths, psychopaths, machiavellic devils, as well as untrustworthy and unstable people in general. 

    I will give these asessements to any prospect student, teacher, mentor, employee or job applicant and collaborator. 

    P.S.: Them being suspicious about taking the test is already a red flag. It indicates paranoia that they will be fucked over, and usually only manipulative people are that paranoic. Healthy people are not worried that they will get bad scores. 

  24. Posted

    9 hours ago, brugluiz said:

    Does it have to be a crying that has negative or positive motivations? I ask that because once I did a Steve Pavlina exercise that made me cry, but I thought it was more because I was depressed, then I didn't give it too much attention.

    Thank you, @Nahm:)

    Tears of excitement and joy about what your life could look like. Don't start to guilt yourself because it doesn't look like that yet. It defeats the whole purpose. 

  25. Posted

    @iGhost Julien's pickup days are over. He even deleted all his pickup videos. He is 100% self-help teacher right now. 

    No doubt he remains one of the greatest pickup artists though. 

    I think AMS is a bit too tryhard and has a pretty bitter view towards women. I like his blunt way of portraying ideas, tacticts and strategies, but I feel like he is not that cognitively developed.

    He gotta read more books cuz his brain doesn't allow for much nuance right now I see.