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To be fair I don't think you can trip your way to understanding God either. I took Leo's comment as meaning you can't meditate (or trip) and understand God without doing some thinking. Now, the Buddhists do understand that thinking can't be all you do. I see three pillars -contemplation / thinking -daily meditation -psychedelic breakthroughs Don't forget that lots of people trip every year. Many of them have a cool experience, but that's just it, a cool experience.

I'm gonna keep going because I want to deal with my suffering . But I'll keep taking about God on actualized.org. Thanks guys.

That's why I don't take acid or shrooms without a sitter. Dmt ill happily do by myself

Maybe I'm getting stuck on language . But if someone uses words I consider vague, as Zen people are apt to do, I become suspicious . Words like "Suchness" "Oneness" etc don't satisfy me the way that God does, this could reflect either a difference in depth of understanding or simply a difference in language . Nevertheless I find myself drawn to it because it's challenging my ideas of what awakening means .

I'm like an addict I need more . 😭😂

@Joseph Maynor @Jodistrict True but there could be someone who never fully awakens bc they weren't told . Also did someone delete their comment ? It was really good

@kavaris science no doubt will embrace idealism, but that's not the core issue . Even in embracing idealism, they'll still be wedded to conceptual abstractions and imaginary mathematical objects. They'll just say "but these abstract mathematical objects are conscious," without dealing with the core issue .

Intellectuals, especially physicists, are woo. That's the rule not the exception . If you believe abstract math are literally real and pray to invisible quantum fields you can never directly encounter you're a magician.

So I've been going to a Buddhist temple for 3 months now . First of all, the good. I like this place, I like these people , I'd rather have Buddhists as friends than most types of people . Meditation is also really good . If you have adhd or otherwise can't sit still and you go to one of these temples you'll be forced to sit still and meditate, that's good, it builds accountability. But as for understanding of reality, I've been a little let down . There's lots of talk of oneness, of seeing through the ego, of no self. Sometimes if I'm lucky there will be a little blurb about everything being Mind, but unlike Leo who beats you over the head with it you get maybe a sentence or two about Consciousness, then it's right back to practical stuff, I feel 90% of the talks given are self-help. How to be a better person, how to do the right thing , how to be more selfless. They don't really talk about Love, Intelligence, Beauty, Goodness. And obviously they don't talk about GOD. I'll probably keep going, it's just a little disappointing.

I'm one of those genetic freaks, sort of. Altho for me it's more psychosis than awakening. But it's a blurry line, I just know I need to stay away from it.

To be fair , my understanding of what is so called standard nonduality is primarily influenced by actualized.org, so maybe I'm taking some things for granted that a lot of practioners don't .

Hell yeah ! Sexy goblins!

david hart sounds a lot like Leo if Leo did his philosophy phd instead of psychedelics

"Why alex o Connor believes there's a 45% chance of God." that title just made me chuckle

he's ragebaiting you bro it's chill. you guys are funny, like an old senile couple