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not sure whether you're being serious but Descartes was instrumental in codifying the strong distinction between mind and matter as well as the notion of consciousness as a private, internal world (the internal "movie" as David Chalmers calls it). Prior to the time of Descartes the distinction between mind and matter wasn't so strong, if you asked an ancient Greek philosopher where pain occurs when you stub your toe for example they wouldn't have the concept of an internal subject to whom pain occurs rather they would say the pain literally occurs in the toe instead of the modern person who says the pain occurs in my mind / in my brain.

@Tistepiste did your retreat experiences get stronger as you did more ? Ie was the second stronger than the first third stronger etc ? Im going to my second retreat in October . The first I experienced a profound unconditional love awakening but I sensed there was a lot more and since I didn't have a meditation discipline prior to the retreat I spent most of retreat just fighting my body .

It's consciousness . Or emptiness. Whatever this right now is. Western people call it consciousness because of Descartes, people without a western ego might just call it being .

Interesting I've only done zen retreats never vipassana , sounds like more or less the same tho lol congrats 🎉 I'm looking at doing my next retreat in October .

@Yimpa thanks

Yeah I wonder how to learn to love something healthier. Hmmm. @Yimpa the reason i laughed was I was expecting an explanation from Leo on how to be attractive and instead got just ridicuolous no fucks given smile and dance.

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My Leo (who I actually lived with! It was so much fun) is a lot more into , for lack of a better word, the occult stuff . He's definitely more "vibes" than me whereas I gravitate to the more logical side , hence why I'm here and he's reading astrological charts haha

@Jordan of the Shire @kavaris you two seem to be describing morphic resonance . The memory of past actions in a specific place condition future expressions. ---- I wasn't saying Buddhism was wrong in fact Zen Buddhism has the One Mind, Unborn Mind, Dharmakaya etc, rather just commenting on the fact that despite having this doctrine I almost never hear my zen teachers talk about it and also not much about love or intelligence . But I think I got a satisfactory answer as to why they don't talk about it much .

Yeah my friend Leo watched Leo actualize on actualized.org but took a different path to self actualization.

Support groups , sangha , meditation , making and consuming music , hikes

Indeed. I think they got much right , problem is exclusively clinging to 2500 year old teachings without an appreciation for, ironically, the ever changing nature and evolution of teaching, not getting with the times and psychedelics etc. But some would disagree , saying if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Some Buddhist texts are better than others. This is from the lankavatara sutra, "all such Notions as causation, succession, atoms, primary elements that make up the personality, personal Soul, Supreme Spirit, Sovereign God, creator are all figments of imagination and manifestations of the Mind itself." In this case I don't see a contradiction between what Leo teaches and Buddhism, even if it ostensibly denies God, Mind in this case is the God that Leo refers to and God in this quote would be the dualistic God of religion . That's my two cents anyway. Still not seeing much about intelligence or love tho. https://youtu.be/26PCMpKc1nw?si=YJUhd9-kDYqo311U Funny how Buddhists discourage thinking , I wonder how the people were able to write this sutra ?

To be fair I don't think you can trip your way to understanding God either. I took Leo's comment as meaning you can't meditate (or trip) and understand God without doing some thinking. Now, the Buddhists do understand that thinking can't be all you do. I see three pillars -contemplation / thinking -daily meditation -psychedelic breakthroughs Don't forget that lots of people trip every year. Many of them have a cool experience, but that's just it, a cool experience.

I'm gonna keep going because I want to deal with my suffering . But I'll keep taking about God on actualized.org. Thanks guys.