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The same but more consciousness .
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Leibniz understands solipsism solipsism is a state of being alone forever and it definitely is god but it's a rather limited version of it
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He is largely spiral dynamics stage red , caused his last girlfriend to relapse on coke. Interesting, I guess what you are attracts what you are.
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My biggest problem is thinking idiots are actually happier than me. I know someone who's a total pickup artist and rotten to the core. Still part of me is jealous of him because he's better at game than me. But I have something infinitely more valuable than game, it's hard to see that sometimes though. Even if I spend my entire life doing game I don't think it's possible for me to be as good as game as this person who I and all my friends despise for being a terrible low consciousness person.
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This is good, because from experiences I've had I feel almost certain that consciousness is Nothing, but maybe my logic hasn't caught up yet. so consciousness is windowless, this is to say consciousness can only experience itself. In other words consciousness is alone in an existential sense. Something that's alone cannot be contingent on anything else. But something that's not contingent on anything else cannot be a "thing." From there it follows that it must be nothing. its important to distinguish ontological nothing and materialist nothing. Ontological nothing is simply that which exists prior to form, and form is necessarily a byproduct of contingency. If you don't believe me just consider the contents of consciousness. Every content of consciousness is a thing, and contingent on consciousness. The laws of physics are contingent on the universe . But consciousness is solipsistic and not contingent , and consciences without content is nothing. And the universe comes from nothing , which really means it is simply nothing. energy is contingent on the universe and therefore not nothing, but something. Only that which is non contingent is nothing . finally nothing is self existent and unlimited , and therefore God I probably need a lot more time to really refine this argument . GPT o3 Refined Argument: Why Consciousness Is Nothing, and Nothing Is God 1. Consciousness is windowless It does not perceive anything outside itself. All contents—thoughts, feelings, sensations—appear within it. Therefore, consciousness is existentially alone. 2. What is alone cannot be contingent If consciousness is alone in its existence, it cannot be dependent on anything beyond itself. It has no external cause, no reference point, and no “other” to relate to. 3. What is not contingent is not a thing “Things” are defined by limits, relations, and dependencies. To be a thing is to be bounded and distinguished from other things. But what is non-contingent is not defined by limits or boundaries. It cannot be located or separated. So, it is not a “thing.” 4. Therefore, consciousness is not a thing—it is nothing This “nothing” is not absence but the absence of form, boundary, or dependence. It is ontological nothing—that which exists prior to all contingent appearances. 5. All appearances (forms, objects, laws) are contents of consciousness Every experience you’ve ever had, including the laws of physics, mental objects, sensations, and identities, appear within consciousness. These are contingent on consciousness, not the other way around. 6. Therefore, reality arises from nothing If all content is contingent on consciousness, and consciousness itself is not a thing—but nothing—then reality arises from nothing. Not as an empty void, but as form arising from formlessness. 7. Nothing is self-existent and unlimited Since nothing is prior to form and not dependent on anything else, it is self-existent. And since it has no boundaries, it is infinite. 8. This self-existent, infinite, formless ground is what mystics call God God is not a cosmic object or being among beings. God is that which exists necessarily, without form, limit, or contingency—i.e., nothing.
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Contemplating the nature of space deeply. it's the same proof but that was a very weak formulation of it 1) consciousness does not occupy space 2) consciousness is not divisible 3) therefore consciousness is immaterial 4) immaterial means it is not a thing, because it is not a thing it could equally be called nothing as something 5) reality contains consciousness, which is a real thing, but also nothing 6) therefore reality is nothing 7) reality is also something. It exists, it has substance. Reality is simply Existence. Nothing cannot exist, therefore everything exists, because everything exists consciousness is unlimited .
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Consciousness is nothing, because it lacks all physical attributes . Numbers are also nothing. Anything that is nothing is consciousness. And for reality to contain Nothing it must also be Nothing. Nothing is unlimited and can evolve through cause and effect forever. You could argue for god from math too. Math is nothing and contained by reality, so reality is nothing.
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Numbers that are finite, and don't occupy space, but there is a crucial difference between numbers and consciousness. The difference is that numbers are discrete, whereas consciousness is not. To create a consciousness that is discrete in the way a number is, you'd have to isolate consciousness to just one moment of conscious experience. But there is no such thing as a single moment of consciousness, because you can divide time and moments forever. Now there is the case of numbers such as pi, and they appear to go on forever. But I maintain that pi is really only a representation of a discrete number. that is, a representation of pi to a specific number of decimal places. however the point about emotions being non spatial and also limited does seem like a tough one that I'm honestly unsure of how to answer. except to defer back to the first point about there not being a discrete "moment" of experience, of which emotion is a subset. I might need a couple hours of contemplation to respond to your whole inquiry but this is the first point that came to mind.
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The thing that limits numbers is the law of identity. Numbers can be infinite , but can never cease to be numbers . Consciousness is also limited similarly, consciousness can never cease to be consciousness. But it's unlimited, like numbers, within its domain. And the domain of consciousness is experience, and God is an experience of the all.
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are these critiques from Grok really holes in the argument or is AI just too dumb to counter it? I'm not sure how to update it to make it stronger. Grok: Overall Assessment • Strengths: The argument is creative and builds on philosophical ideas about consciousness and infinity. It could resonate with idealist or panentheistic worldviews, where consciousness and divinity are closely linked. • Weaknesses: Several steps (especially 3, 5, and 7) make unwarranted assumptions or logical leaps. The argument relies on ambiguous terms (“infinite,” “limited,” “God”) and lacks rigorous support for key claims, such as why non-spatiality implies no limitations or why all possible experiences necessitate God. It also ignores competing views (e.g., materialism) that challenge the initial premise. • Validity: The argument is not logically valid due to gaps in reasoning (e.g., premise 3’s overreach and premise 7’s non-sequitur). Even if valid, it wouldn’t be sound without proving the premises true, which is difficult given their speculative nature. • Alternative Interpretations: The argument might work better as a theological or metaphysical hypothesis within a specific framework (e.g., idealism or theism), but it’s not compelling as a universal proof.
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1) consciousness is immaterial 2)therefore consciousness does not occupy space 3) because consciousness does not occupy space it is not limited by anything 4) therefore consciousness is infinite 5) therefore every possible state of consciousness exists 6) therefore every possible experience exists 7) therefore God exists
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Okay but the experience can rewire your brain to experience a permanent shift in consciousness. Look at all the NDE experiencers who permanently lose fear of death. It wasn't the content of the experience it was that the experience literally changed their brain.
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Oppositionless replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ramana Maharshi needed to be kept alive by his devotees when in deep samadhi . They literally had to wipe biting insects from his body and wake him up to eat because he was too blissed out to do anything. But that's the exception not the rule. For a normie Truth and Survival exist in a paradoxical unity. -
Oppositionless replied to Anton Rogachevski's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No God isn't hidden I just haven't developed my consciousness to the level to appreciate it . -
Oppositionless replied to Anton Rogachevski's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Consciousness / sensation in the present moment. That's all there is. That's god , but I have little experience in the domain of God consciousness . I assume there's a kind of God bigger than what I've experienced .