Leo, how much do looks influence a man's attractiveness

[kamill]

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[Yali]

@Leo Gura

so then why do some of these supposedly successful pickup guys have a wild sense of dress if it were working against them?

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Yali said:

@Leo Gura

so then why do some of these supposedly successful pickup guys have a wild sense of dress if it were working against them?

Because they have brainwashed themselves with pickup ideology. They are like monkeys following each other.

The dress doesn't necessarily hurt their results with girls. It just looks cringe to on-lookers.

Edited March 14 by Leo Gura

[Yali]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The dress doesn't necessarily hurt their results with girls.

But Owen cook’s dress does? @Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Yali said:

But Owen cook’s dress does? @Leo Gura

I don't know his sex count. I'm just saying it looks cringe from outside.

[Miguel1]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't know his sex count. I'm just saying it looks cringe from outside.

From what I understand, he is deliberately trying to put himself into a category of one by niching himself down as much as possible. So it will look weird for a bunch of people but a percentage will love it.

Because he knows he cannot compete on looks. He cannot compete with the ''normies'' who optimize looks & dressing according to the beauty standards.

He has no chance of competing with the Apple Watch, so he markets himself as the ''Rolex''.

Bonus: when he doesn't come across as this normie well-dressed ''high-value man'', girls don't react to him in a typical manner either.

In this way, he immediately disqualifies himself as boyfriend material and sets himself as the fun-lover frame, which is ideal for both getting quick sex, and also developing a relationship afterwards.

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

From what I understand, he is deliberately trying to put himself into a category of one by niching himself down as much as possible. So it will look weird for a bunch of people but a percentage will love it.

Because he knows he cannot compete on looks. He cannot compete with the ''normies'' who optimize looks & dressing according to the beauty standards.

I understand his logic.

But to me he looked better 12 years ago when he wasn't trying so hard. You don't need to try so hard to get laid. It's the wrong message to send to his audience. You don't have to turn yourself into some weirdo hipster to get laid.

Full disclosure: I sometimes dress is silly costumes when I got out, for my own amusement.

[Miguel1]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I understand his logic.

But to me he looked better 12 years ago when he wasn't trying so hard. You don't need to try so hard to get laid. It's the wrong message to send to his audience. You don't have to turn yourself into some weirdo hipster to get laid.

Full disclosure: I sometimes dress is silly costumes when I got out, for my own amusement.

I see. Nice viewpoint / angle to look at his style / game.

Ironic because he is all about being playful, letting go, letting loose, fooling around and not supplicating & qualifying himself.

But at the same time, if you truly don't care, why not sometimes or even more regularly dress however the hell you want, for fun, for your own amusement, as you do too Leo.

But I don't hang out with Owen. I don't know his dressing style really, how often he over-dresss etc.

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

But I don't hang out with Owen. I don't know his dressing style really, how often he over-dresss etc.

I only know how he dresses in his videos. And to me it comes off cringey.

[Miguel1]

31 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I only know how he dresses in his videos. And to me it comes off cringey.

Alright. Personally, I find his clothing style in his videos mostly as playful & a little bit of color to the landscape, rather than over-dressing.

But maybe I am biased, since he has, as you have too, deeply changed my life too many times.

I don't myself dress like him. I dress more classy with street mixed. Classy Streetwear is properly the right term. But yeah, I wouldn't look at Owen weird in his clothes. Perhaps I am just too used to his clothing style from the countless hours I've watched him lol.

Sometimes he uses bomber jackets but I don't think they are over-dressing either. At least not the one he uses. But I grew up in the hip-hop dance community, so these street clothes were the shit for me and I will always have a sweet spot for them, even if I have now kinda grown out of them.

Edited March 15 by Miguel1

[Yali]

how do you typically dress when going out? @Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Yali said:

how do you typically dress when going out? @Leo Gura

You can see my clubs videos on Instagram or my blog.

[Joel3102]

@Leo Gura I remember his 2012 era videos he actually comes off as way cooler than he does now. He’s just so over the top and aggressive at this point

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Joel3102 said:

@Leo Gura I remember his 2012 era videos he actually comes off as way cooler than he does now. He’s just so over the top and aggressive at this point

The character he has created has taken over him.

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura we share almost the same opinion about his style. For me also he is trying too hard with this bird outfit. Its not suited for his age, his character and his overweight body. It looks just creepy and dump. 

On the other hand every generation has it's own style and maybe our generation sees his style worse than younger generations. 

Its for everyone obvious  that he thinks too much about his outfit and his posture (he has this stock in the ass posture, which looks even more creepy for me). How can that be attractive. Maybe just for YouTube videos for more clicks.

 

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, OBEler said:

with this bird outfit.

Lol

[mmKay]

@Leo Gura I was wondering for the longest time why does he wear super deep neck shirts that look like he is trying to show cleavage, it doesn't look ideal imo 

After careful observation of endless  Owen content it turns out it's because he has this thing where he starts interactions with girls in clubs by whipping out his man boob in their  face which causes ideally causes them to laugh uncontrollably 

 

Edited March 15 by mmKay

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, mmKay said:

he has this thing where he starts interactions with girls in clubs by whipping out his man boob in their  face which causes ideally causes them to laugh uncontrollably 

Sigh...

[Jehovah increases]

I don't what's creepier than growing men almost obsessing about some guy's looks and love life. No wonder no one is getting any and Mr Ed always looked like a happy chappy. The men seem to Gossip more on this Forum than the women. I don't know maybe perhaps go out there and try to pick up.

Edited March 15 by Jehovah increases

[OBEler]

@Jehovah increases lol pickup is about look and love life. And Owen Cook founded pick up. So discussing his tactics (his bird look) and his achievements (his love live) is not really gossip.

 

Edited March 15 by OBEler