New War In Israel / Gaza

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Basically anyone shooting at Israelis can be considered Hamas.

I think that the only solution is to bomb, warning of the areas that are going to be destroyed every day, so that they can evacuate them, destroying the city, killing the minimum number of people possible until everyone is grouped in an area without buildings, in a state of hunger and terrible weakness, and there capture all the men, and after that find out who the leaders are and execute them. A shit of Dantesque proportions that would prevent me from sleeping for the rest of my life.

[PurpleTree]

« idf elite unit rescues around 250 hostages alive « 

[Leo Gura]

Warning: Do not post radical nonsense in this thread. Be sensible.

Edited October 12, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Vrubel]

 

4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

« idf elite unit rescues around 250 hostages alive « 

Seems legit, (not 100% sure). Though to be clear these are not the hostages kidnapped to Gaza. 

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@Breakingthewall The conflict will end when all people who identify as being of a specific religion or tribe cease to do so.

[zazen]

I read somewhere that Hamas are underground and that the IDF are well aware of that. Thus, bombing buildings isn’t effective in eliminating them and only killing innocents - yet they still go ahead.
 

Palestinians were told to leave but then the only way out was bombed also. They are backed into the corner, what else can they do. This is only traumatising and radicalising the next wave of fighters to come in a vicious cycle as Leo has mentioned. Marginalisation leads to radicalisation.

 

In a ground invasion of Gaza the IDF will struggle. Urban warfare is messy and advantages the home turf fighters over the invaders. The highest casualties and bloodiest fights happened in Bakhmut, Marioupol for example and likewise the US never succeeded in Afghanistan also - fighting a people who are motivated and have nothing left to lose.

 

Bibi can’t be seen to be weak as his main image has been Mr.Strong and especially not after being humiliated by the breach of their secure border by Hamas who are much less weaker. The trouble is, their will be many Palestinian casualties that increase the pressure from other nations to condemn Israel further isolating it, and urge Hezbollah to get involved meaning their in for a two front war.

 

That potentiates Iran, Syria possibly Russia and Turkey. Then Israel’s allies the US and NATO come in essentially becoming WW3.

 

It seems Hamas / Palestinians and Muslims are being labeled collectively as evil hate filled people by some in this thread whilst being blind to the atrocities of Western power or the state of Israel - vary your sources and don’t be duped by propaganda.

Edited October 12, 2023 by zazen

[zurew]

Its crazy whats going on on twitter.

I mean twitter was always a shithole, but now "everything I don't agree with is AI generated".

 

People are using AI image detectors as if they were reliable and then use that to confidently dismiss things they disagree with(this obviously goes for both sides).

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, zazen said:

Then Israel’s allies the US and NATO come in essentially becoming WW3.

Don't blow things out of proportion. This is nowhere WW3.

[PurpleTree]

Israel should put high bounties on the hamas guys, maybe like that palestinians could take the money and move on

[zazen]

True, ww3 is an over exaggeration but more like a worldly war that will have worldly implications that ripple out.

If Iran get involved and oils prices inflate pushing energy markets skyward, that’s more inflation and all the economic chaos that ensues.

Or Palestinians fleeing into Egypt and destabilising Egypt exacerbating the migration crises in Europe.

[Scholar]

Palestinian children in UN funded schools are being indoctrinated into actual antisemitism, made to fantasize about how to murder jews (not israeli's, jews), and how they are their enemies. This has been going on for years and years now.

https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/antisemitismus-an-palaestinensischen-schulen-deutschland-zahlt-weiter-fuer-juden-83613256.bild.html

 

The palestinians hatred for the jews goes beyond mere mistreatment at this point. All the socialists you see on the internet talking about a one-sided analysis that seeks to put all blame on Israel are profoundly ignorant of how deep this problem goes.

[Hatfort]

The Israeli government never wanted a two-state solution, that would already exist if they really had wanted it, it was up to them. They push Palestinians at a constant pace until they respond with violence too, and they get the pretext to continue further with their Zionist agenda, building more settlements and killing more Palestinians. We've seen the pattern.

The solution is a secular democratic country named Palestine because Israel is a name only for Jews, so it's not the appropriate one. Palestine is not a Muslim name, it's the name of the land, remember Christians live there too. Total separation of religion and state by law, with individual and collective freedom to practice whatever religion each believes in. Equal rights and obligations for everyone. Reparations too, the harm caused to the non-Jewish has left them in extreme poverty, it could be internationally provided. Also for Jewish victims, because there are, but they are already getting it. The right to come back for all refugees. Build bridges, respect and celebrate diversity.

The international power community is sided with The Israeli government, so it won't happen. But more and more common people are siding with the Palestinians, the younger generations, the more. People are not blind.

Another solution is to create the Zionist dream in a country that accepts it. My suggestion is in the middle of the USA because they totally support them. We move all South Dakotans to North Dakota and we call it just Dakota. Then we name that piece of land New Israel, or whatever they want, and we move every Zionist there. Problem solved. It's a joke, but it's not.

[Scholar]

7 minutes ago, Hatfort said:

The Israeli government never wanted a two-state solution, that would already exist if they really had wanted it, it was up to them. They push Palestinians at a constant pace until they respond with violence too, and they get the pretext to continue further with their Zionist agenda, building more settlements and killing more Palestinians. We've seen the pattern.

The solution is a secular democratic country named Palestine because Israel is a name only for Jews, so it's not the appropriate one. Palestine is not a Muslim name, it's the name of the land, remember Christians live there too. Total separation of religion and state by law, with individual and collective freedom to practice whatever religion each believes in. Equal rights and obligations for everyone. Reparations too, the harm caused to the non-Jewish has left them in extreme poverty, it could be internationally provided. Also for Jewish victims, because there are, but they are already getting it. The right to come back for all refugees. Build bridges, respect and celebrate diversity.

The international power community is sided with The Israeli government, so it won't happen. But more and more common people are siding with the Palestinians, the younger generations, the more. People are not blind.

Another solution is to create the Zionist dream in a country that accepts it. My suggestion is in the middle of the USA because they totally support them. We move all South Dakotans to North Dakota and we call it just Dakota. Then we name that piece of land New Israel, or whatever they want, and we move every Zionist there. Problem solved. It's a joke, but it's not.

This kind of talk is going to get a lot of people killed.

[BlackPhil]

1 hour ago, Scholar said:

Palestinian children in UN funded schools are being indoctrinated into actual antisemitism, made to fantasize about how to murder jews (not israeli's, jews), and how they are their enemies. This has been going on for years and years now.

https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/antisemitismus-an-palaestinensischen-schulen-deutschland-zahlt-weiter-fuer-juden-83613256.bild.html

 

The palestinians hatred for the jews goes beyond mere mistreatment at this point. All the socialists you see on the internet talking about a one-sided analysis that seeks to put all blame on Israel are profoundly ignorant of how deep this problem goes.

Yeah, look at this TV-show for children in Palestine. Its all about how to attack and kill Jews:

People dont seem to understand that this goes way deeper than just some fight about land... The "axis powers" of Russia, Iran, Turkey etc. are all involved with this and its all a preparation for some kind of global war against Zionism (and the West).

Radicalised, indoctrinated Islamists are being used as some kind of attack dogs/suicide troops.

 

Edited October 13, 2023 by BlackPhil

[Scholar]

 

[Socrates]

 

[PurpleTree]

Palestinian Christians are you willing to forgive Israelis?

[Scholar]

4 minutes ago, Socrates said:

 

I hope you can see how biased this is.

[Danioover9000]

@Nabd

3 minutes ago, Nabd said:

Funniest thing is that today Iranian prime minister was on a plane almost landing in Syria. Israel attacked the airports and they went out of service which forced the prime minister to return to Iran lmao

   Jeez, and this is assuming when Israel attacked the airports that it damaged the landing roads.?

[PurpleTree]

humans are retarded, it’s a miracle that we made it this far