Female Masturbation

[ZenAlex]

On 28/08/2023 at 11:30 AM, Something Funny said:

@DefinitelyNotARobot I didn't say that not watching porn, or semen retention has no benefits.

I said that nofap doesn't work.

I feel better after not jerking off for a while, it does work, and there's science to back up why it works. LITERALLY just fucking google/youtube it and educate yourself.

Giving up porn CAN impact your sexual performance in a position way.

Many men have reported reduced depression because of it.

I personally feel less depressed, irritable and more motivated when I don't jerk off regularly. I was never an addict, I jerked off every other day, and now I rarely jerk off and I feel much better.

Maybe it's just me, but I do think there's something behind it.

If you feel no benefits then fine, but I'd encourage anyone who is curious to give it a couple of months at least and see how you feel.

NOFAP DOES work, but maybe not for everyone.

[DefinitelyNotARobot]

On 8/28/2023 at 10:27 PM, PurpleTree said:

And most of those issues will stay unaddressed as most doctors can’t find them and don’t know much about it same as with chronic fatigue.

I think one should still try and consult a doctor first (which I don't hear a lot of no fap people promote), but yeah, if that doesn't help you with your problem no fap might be a valid alternative, at least temporarily.

On 8/28/2023 at 11:29 PM, Sugarcoat said:

I would say no fap is a more so a consequence of mental clarity rather than a cause 

That has been my personal experience too, but I don't think that abstaining from masturbation is equivalent to mental clarity. I think that a mentally clear person can still enjoy masturbation. People have fundamentally different relationships to their bodies, their needs, their sexuality, etc., so being in a clear state of mind will effect these people differently, but if I was just talking for myself I'd agree.

Edited August 30, 2023 by DefinitelyNotARobot

[Something Funny]

1 hour ago, ZenAlex said:

I feel better after not jerking off for a while, it does work, and there's science to back up why it works. LITERALLY just fucking google/youtube it and educate yourself.

Giving up porn CAN impact your sexual performance in a position way.

Many men have reported reduced depression because of it.

I personally feel less depressed, irritable and more motivated when I don't jerk off regularly. I was never an addict, I jerked off every other day, and now I rarely jerk off and I feel much better.

Maybe it's just me, but I do think there's something behind it.

If you feel no benefits then fine, but I'd encourage anyone who is curious to give it a couple of months at least and see how you feel.

NOFAP DOES work, but maybe not for everyone.

Oh god, what is wrong with people on this forum. You guys have like no analytical or reading comprehension skills at all. I am too tired for this shit.

[caspex]

I think if you are doing it once every few days it's fine, it depends on your body. I am a guy so I can only relate to you in terms of the dopamine peeks a human gets during orgasm. The way masturbation had taken away from my life was because of my addiction to that dopamine hit. So when my sexual urge was too low, I'd seek some other source of dopamine and this cycle would continue until I waste my whole day. So masturbation would simply make me an NPC since I did it too much.

Obviously this wasn't a problem once I stopped doing it everyday, for me the right frequency was once every 5 days or more.

[Lila9]

On 8/29/2023 at 3:16 PM, Princess Arabia said:

To have an orgasm, for me, my clit has to be stimulated. The best position for me when having intercourse with a man and for me to have an orgasm is if I'm laying on my stomach, him behind me and either him or me stimulating my clit at the same time he's inside. It's the best

Thank you for sharing

I will try it in my next sexual encounter assuming it will happen in this century ?

 

On 8/29/2023 at 3:16 PM, Princess Arabia said:

Ok, enough of that incase I'm turning on any of you guys, it's not my intention, just expressing to Lila and responding to her comment☺️☺️?.

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I appreciate your efforts❤️

On 8/29/2023 at 3:16 PM, Princess Arabia said:

I eat a lot of plantains and, according to google, they are an aphrodisiac. I notice my drive gets stronger after eating them, green or ripe. I'd be like, why do I feel so horny today, oh, I had plantains for breakfast or dinner and all week. Oysters and sushi ain't got nothing on plantains, so eater beware.

Intresting, I'll try this.

 

[Lila9]

 

[The Redeemer]

On 8/27/2023 at 7:51 PM, Princess Arabia said:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and since there are way more males here than females, this might get tricky. I notice a lot of guys talking about no fap, which is the abstaining from masturbation. You know - no fap, fap, fap, fap sound. They say it promotes mental clarity to muscle growth, to increased testosterone levels, to higher energy levels and more. I don't think there are any scientific evidence to back these claims, but, either way:

My question is, does no fap for women affects women in anyway. Are there any benefits or side effects. Does it also help in clarity, mood swings or health. I don't know since I've never done it. I'm always masturbating as I have no sex life and I'm always horny. My work doesn't require me to have an orgasm and I can always fake it if I have to. I cannot come on the spot as it takes special positioning of my legs, and I don't need to do that anyway. I'm just curious as I have never gone more than a week, or at the most, two weeks without masturbating. I know, that's a long time for men but for women that's not too long. 

No hate speeches please, as this is a legitimate question, and if you can't handle it or are going to be rude, please don't respond as you know my tongue slips from time to time. Women and men can answer, but women encouraged. Women be brave, there's no shame here.

 

 

I don't know. Why don't you try it an find out. Document it and record the results. Do a 30 day challenge no masturbation. Empirical observation is the only way.

Edited August 30, 2023 by The Redeemer

[The Redeemer]

On 8/28/2023 at 1:57 AM, Something Funny said:

Npfap doesn't work. Literally, never saw someone who got any success from it. 

I disagree, based off of my own direct experience. I definitely notice an increase in energy levels.

[Lila9]

5 hours ago, Rainy Sparkle said:

Masturbation gives pleasure and pleasure is addicitive, for me at least. When the urge comes, it's nearly impossible to not masturbate, which is almost daily and sometimes several times in a day.

Pleasure is addictive when your need for true meaning and connection didn't get met, when you replace these needs with chasing pleasure.

Also, addiction to pleasure ironically results with sensing less pleasure over time.

But pleasure on it's own isn't bad and can be healing.

I empathized sexual pleasure for women because many women never experienced or fear to experience geniune sexual pleasure because of the shame around female sexuality, but in those cases, we have to learn how to allow ourselves to experience pleasure without all these limiting patriarchal mind programs.

Men also have a lot of shame and wounds around sexuality and they also require some healing and reprogramming around it.

 

[Something Funny]

35 minutes ago, The Redeemer said:

I disagree, based off of my own direct experience. I definitely notice an increase in energy levels.

Look, another bright one...

[Osaid]

On 8/29/2023 at 2:37 AM, Lila9 said:

Our sexual pleasure and orgasms are existing for the sake of 100% pleasure and healing, there is 0% reproductive value to the female orgasms, unlike men- their orgasms are conditional to creating babies.

It's as if nature encourages us and wants us to feel pleasure for the sake of it. Which is the essence of the feminine, being for the sake of being. Creating for the sake of creating. Having pleasure for the sake of having pleasure.

What makes masturbation so fun? Than I can dictate the rythm and reach peaks that I never reached by having sex with men (but they were close, not gonna lie).

But it's important to point that there are various types of masturbating with different intentions.

For example, I believe that it's healthy to masturbate when we are horny or as a form of healing or spiritual growth but it's not healthy to masturbate as a form of distraction. Sometimes I find myself seeking to masturbate in order to distract myself from difficult emotions but then I become consious to that and stop.

I also think that masturbation with vibrating sex toys harms the vulva so I don't use them and never recommend them.

I don't think it's actually a gender thing, men can deepen it to a similar degree, although yes your biology is different and "has more parts" and perhaps a different dynamic to it. Although, admittedly, it might be less common for men to pursue that type of thing, which might be where your assumption comes from. But I have achieved "full-body" orgasms and nipple orgasms and all of that. I can orgasm without even touching myself down there if I wanted. And I can relate to this sentiment of being able to dictate everything in masturbation, it's a more personal flavor for sure.

I also don't agree with this idea of zero reproductive value, I actually think all orgasms have zero reproductive value. It's just the instrument that's being used to access it which has reproductive value. The experience of orgasming itself isn't anything like that though. If you still want to argue reproduction, vaginas definitely have built in mechanisms to aid in reproduction just like any other reproductive organ. Otherwise, I'm interested to hear how you think that male orgasms have "reproduction" built into them, but I assure you it doesn't, it's just a phenomenon that occurs purely by itself, just like female orgasms.

[Raze]

On 8/28/2023 at 6:30 AM, Something Funny said:

@DefinitelyNotARobot I didn't say that not watching porn, or semen retention has no benefits.

I said that nofap doesn't work.

Am I misunderstanding? How can you do semen retention without nofap?

[Sugarcoat]

4 hours ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

That has been my personal experience too, but I don't think that abstaining from masturbation is equivalent to mental clarity. I think that a mentally clear person can still enjoy masturbation. People have fundamentally different relationships to their bodies, their needs, their sexuality, etc., so being in a clear state of mind will effect these people differently, but if I was just talking for myself I'd agree.

i immediately related to your comment before where you described your experience, so same. I dont really understand why though, ive been contemplating it quite a bit from time to time trying to understand so ill see where that goes

yea ofc people are different. 

 

Edited August 30, 2023 by Sugarcoat

[Osaid]

I think a lot of the confusion in this thread, and most threads about nofap, come from a failure to recognize that masturbation can physiologically affect people differently. There are conditions like POIS, and probably milder versions of it which afflict people. I don't think it is normal to feel bad after masturbating, and I think most people don't. This only seems to be a popular sentiment online, because online communities create an echo chamber effect which normalizes it or amplifies it beyond what would be seen when looking at society at large.

I am not counting any projected negative beliefs about masturbation as an affliction, although this is probably the more common case, where people will simply self-deprecate themselves because of some negative beliefs after orgasming, and then interpret this as "masturbation makes me feel bad!"

I think the genuine physiological affliction is rarer and amplified online. But, the latter more common case of projection is not uncommon at all, and is seen online and in real life, commonly through religious indoctrination or whatever else.

I had this exact contention with @Someone here before, and he ran a poll on the forum, and you might be surprised to find that the majority of people who voted felt completely fine after masturbating:
 

 

Edited August 30, 2023 by Osaid

[DefinitelyNotARobot]

29 minutes ago, Osaid said:

people will simply self-deprecate themselves because of some negative beliefs after orgasming, and then interpret this as "masturbation makes me feel bad!"

All I know that I have more social energy when I haven't masturbated in a few days. I talk more and feel more comfortable around others. Maybe there is some inherent shame that is causing this, but it doesn't feel like it. It just feels like conversing with others is more draining if I've masturbated recently (this effects usually kicks in 12-15 hours later).

Edited August 30, 2023 by DefinitelyNotARobot

[Lila9]

1 hour ago, Osaid said:

I don't think it's actually a gender thing, men can deepen it to a similar degree, although yes your biology is different and "has more parts" and perhaps a different dynamic to it. Although, admittedly, it might be less common for men to pursue that type of thing, which might be where your assumption comes from. But I have achieved "full-body" orgasms and nipple orgasms and all of that. I can orgasm without even touching myself down there if I wanted. And I can relate to this sentiment of being able to dictate everything in masturbation, it's a more personal flavor for sure.

I'm talking about women, I don't know about men. I know that women have more intense and longer orgasms in comparison to men and it can be reached in many ways, from my experience I know how intense it can be for me if I want.

I'm happy that you experience what you experience and I'm not competing with you about orgasms. Please don't involve me in these macho games.

1 hour ago, Osaid said:

I also don't agree with this idea of zero reproductive value, I actually think all orgasms have zero reproductive value. It's just the instrument that's being used to access it which has reproductive value. The experience of orgasming itself isn't anything like that though. If you still want to argue reproduction, vaginas definitely have built in mechanisms to aid in reproduction just like any other reproductive organ. Otherwise, I'm interested to hear how you think that male orgasms have "reproduction" built into them, but I assure you it doesn't, it's just a phenomenon that occurs purely by itself, just like female orgasms.

I think that you misunderstand my statement.

What I'm saying is that women don't have to orgasm in order to get pregnant, men usually do have to orgasm in order to make a woman pregnant. Male orgasm has reproductive value or at least, more reproductive value than female orgasm.

Women orgasms are valuable as they are, it doesn't have to have any purpose, this is what nature wants. Nature could make the female not being able to experience orgasms at all because what reproductive value it brings? has anyone ever met a woman who made another women pregnant when she orgasmed? I personally haven't. Nature could eaisly skip creating female orgasm, and female sexual pleasure but it didn't, and not only it didn't, it made it super super fun.

It must say something to those who believe that women should be sexually repressed, or more sexually repressed than men.

FIY, nature says otherwise.

 

 

 

 

[Something Funny]

@Raze nofap is a set of beliefs / movement / ideology. Semen retention is an action.

Not eating meat != being a vegan

Approaching a girl != being a pickup artist

Practicing semen retention or not watching porn != nofap

 

[Raze]

56 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Raze nofap is a set of beliefs / movement / ideology. Semen retention is an action.

Not eating meat != being a vegan

Approaching a girl != being a pickup artist

Practicing semen retention or not watching porn != nofap

 

If anything it’s the opposite. Nofap is just the action of not masturbating. Semen retention has a lot of ideological and even spiritual beliefs tied to it.

[Princess Arabia]

@Lila9thanks for your input, girl and Teal Swan's video was very informative. She trying to look all sexy and shit in all red. She pulled that shit off. I was feeling sexy and romantic watching that shit. Wish I had a partner watching it with me. Lol. But seriously, I got all her points and she made very good ones. 

[Something Funny]

@Raze lol, no. You can easily proof that that's wrong by the fact that "nofap" is a made up slang word which is used to describe an online movement.