Posted October 8, 2022 @ardacigin It's not about the chemical or the meditation technique, it's about how deeply you deconstruct your mind. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 @Leo Gura Any insights into why you became aware of this now, when you have asked the same question during previous awakenings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Matthew85 said: @Leo Gura Any insights into why you became aware of this now, when you have asked the same question during previous awakenings? What same question? There are 3 main causes: 1) I developed a very powerful new method for taking psychedelics. This generates some truly new states of consciousness. 2) I've simply exhausted all the standard spiritual stuff, so I was ready to find new things. 3) I've worked hard to throw out all human spiritual teachings, so my mind operates completely independently. This is one of the reasons why I trash nonduality and Buddhism so harshly. I had to do that in order to destroy any authority it has in my mind. It was holding me back for years but I was too scared to throw it away. In a sense, I killed the Buddha, pissed on his rotting corpse, and wiped my ass with his orange robe. So now I can really begin spiritual work. This has allowed me to access some truly alien kinds of consciousness. Edited October 8, 2022 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Leo Gura said: 1) I developed a very powerful new method for taking psychedelics. This generates some truly new states of consciousness. IV? I'm sure IV has to be the most powerful, biologically. Fastest uptake, zero filtration, kaboom... Or intraocular sounds like something you might do lol, right into the eye. I tried that with vodka once, didn't work but oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 @RMQualtrough I am not saying because it is truly dangerous. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: In a sense, I killed the Buddha, pissed on his rotting corpse, and wiped my ass with his orange robe. Nice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 @Leo Gura I admire how disciplined you are in deconstructing your mind and beliefs. I've never come across anyone who does it at your level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: In a sense, I killed the Buddha, pissed on his rotting corpse, and wiped my ass with his orange robe. this sounds so disrespectful, i know what 'kill the buddha' means though, and what you're saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Matthew85 said: @Leo Gura I admire how disciplined you are in deconstructing your mind and beliefs. I've never come across anyone who does it at your level. What I don't get is if he can deconstruct the mind why can't he deconstruct the mouse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 @StarStruck Save that one somewhere Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ² Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, DreamScape said: this sounds so disrespectful, i know what 'kill the buddha' means though, and what you're saying. Reminds me of what Jed Mckenna said in one of his books: "I sometimes wonder if I would make a good Zen master— Roshi— but I don’t think so. Or maybe I’d be a great one, depends how you look at it. My emblem would be a graphic depiction of the Buddha’s head lanced on a pike, complete with dripping blood and dangling viscera. The motto beneath the emblem would be DIE! Students would line up outside my door after zazen to come in and tell me their experiences and as soon as the first one opened his mouth I’d start shrieking at the top of my lungs “ You’re not him! You’re not the real guy! You’re the makyo guy! You’re just the dream character!” I’d probably start hitting the student with a stick at this point, which is one of the perks of being a Zen master. “ You’re supposed to be dead! Why aren’t you dead? Why are you coming to see me? You’re the problem! Get out and come back when you’re dead. That’s the guy I want to talk to, not a stupid dream character. Now GET OUT!” 7 minutes ago, StarStruck said: Thank you for this profound visual depiction of awakening "The mystical is not how the world is, but that it is." -Ludwig Wittgenstein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: 2) I've simply exhausted all the standard spiritual stuff, so I was ready to find new things. I don't think so. 34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: 3) I've worked hard to throw out all human spiritual teachings, so my mind operates completely independently. This is one of the reasons why I trash nonduality and Buddhism so harshly. I had to do that in order to destroy any authority it has in my mind. It was holding me back for years but I was too scared to throw it away. That means you misunderstood what the work is about. What is the teaching doing in your mind and not your body? You didn't master riding the bike, only read a lot about biking. It's about implicit learning, inarticulate wisdom, integration. Edited October 8, 2022 by Carl-Richard Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ² Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said: That means you misunderstood what the work is about. What is the teaching doing in your mind and not your body? It's about integration, implicit learning, inarticulate wisdom. Cute human You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Leo Gura said: Cute human Cute mouse ? Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ² Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 46 minutes ago, StarStruck said: I was waiting for this ahaha "I heard you guys are very safe. Caught up with the featherweights”" - Bon Iver ◭“Holyfields”◮ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said: I think Dzogchen is the best human teaching Suzuki's maxim, “Zen mind, Beginner's mind”. When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 Quote 2) I've simply exhausted all the standard spiritual stuff, so I was ready to find new things. You haven't even started with the standard spiritual stuff, you silly mouse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 55 minutes ago, KH2 said: Problem with Connor Murphy was, that he was extremely irresponsible and childish with it. While Leo always could separate his awakenings from his every day life, Murphy seemed completely lost, letting his physique, house, youtube channel and bank account rot away. Leo realizes the importance of survival, however imaginary it is. Connor went from being a bodybuilding narcisistic meathead gymbro, to a full blown 24/7 ayahuasca addict. That's a recipe for disaster. You've been indulging in 4chan /x/ type fantasy through the thread. None of this is serious truth or anything with any substance. It's magick stuff. Tarot, astrology, etcetera. Leo's trip by the way sounds like if Salvia involved animals rather than objects. Especially the glossalia (speaking in tongues). I spoke in tongues on Salvia often. It is curious that I recognize other people's "Salvia" trip words. Certain nonsense words have a Salvia vibe. And certain objects like tactile paving and hammers... I think the reason is the same as why many people try to smoke imaginary cigarettes on Datura (even non smokers). I think the pathways in the mind are activated in a certain spread which aligns with specific phenomena. DMT has jester clowns for example. None of this is of any "spiritual" substantiality. It's like fun and games. People wanting to "harness InFiNiTe CoNsCiOuSnEsS!!!" to manifest things and perform magick are in for major disappointment or delusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Leo Gura said: This generates some truly new states of consciousness. Hybrid states? No partitions? When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
