Leo Doesn't Make Sense Anymore

[Craigxt22]

I haven't read all this thread, nor watched the video.

 

I as God can imagine absolutly anything I want with no limits, which means I can imagine infinite Gods. I can imagine that anything I am imagining can realise God, WITHIN this ONE complete consciousness????

Edited May 18, 2022 by Craigxt22

[Michael Jackson]

19 hours ago, Loba said:

@Michael Jackson Weren't you banned from here for being an impulsive imp?  Welcome back. Someone as impulsive as you without any questioning towards it isn't going to be refined in much of anything I am afraid...

On 17.5.2022 at 7:07 PM, Loba said:

Most of you here are really... really dumb

On 17.5.2022 at 7:07 PM, Loba said:

for whatever reason despite that being pointed out to you hundreds of times.  I have no respect for that.

@Loba I reported you for trolling and gaslighting!

[The0Self]

8 minutes ago, Michael Jackson said:

@Loba I reported you for trolling and gaslighting!

She might be drunk. She'll apologize later, I'd guess. I've seen posts of hers indicating this could be the case.

[Michael Jackson]

9 minutes ago, Loba said:

You report people all the time for things.  I don't.  You've been banned from here before, why are you still here Gregory?

@Loba Stop spreading lies about me. I never reported anyone, you are the first person I have to report. No I was not banned before, this is my first account.

10 minutes ago, Loba said:

How are you supposed to get to God when you can't even handle a little bit of this before hitting the report button?

May I remind you what you said about other people? Let me quote you: "Most of you here are really... really dumb"

This is literally an insult against the whole community. Why should I tolerate that? Is it because of your drinking problems as @The0Self said? Were you drunk? Or where do you get so much arrogance from to claim that you are above most of the people here and even call them "really really dumb"???

Please clarify, or get out of my space. I am not gonna tolerate obnoxious alcoholics insulting my friends on this forum here!

 

 

[Michael Jackson]

2 minutes ago, Loba said:

You did have a previous account here.

I won't tolerate you spreading lies about me. Delete this or I will have to report you.

 

3 minutes ago, Loba said:

A lot of the people here are really dumb, they don't think for themselves.  This is fact.

Does this include you?

[thisintegrated]

2 hours ago, Craigxt22 said:

I haven't read all this thread, nor watched the video.

 

I as God can imagine absolutly anything I want with no limits, which means I can imagine infinite Gods. I can imagine that anything I am imagining can realise God, WITHIN this ONE complete consciousness????

The point is that you can't know anything outside of you, and that thinking you're all there is can only ever be an assumption.

Yes you can create other Gods within your consciousness, but that's still within your consciousness, and isn't the same concept.

 

Just don't go thinking other people are real or anything crazy like that.  Solipsism is still 100% true.

Edited May 18, 2022 by thisintegrated

[Reciprocality]

On 17.5.2022 at 0:18 PM, machiavelli said:

@Leo Gura I am sure I achieved Solipsism realization from your solipsism video. I was very happy before. That I am the only conscious thing in existence. The beauty of aloneness was profound.

But now this video? 

I feel depressed now. 

That blows my mind.

edit: every, single, step, that is.

Edited May 18, 2022 by Reciprocality

[Inliytened1]

22 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

The point is that you can't know anything outside of you, and that thinking you're all there is can only ever be an assumption.

Yes you can create other Gods within your consciousness, but that's still within your consciousness, and isn't the same concept.

 

Actually that you are totally Alone as God can be directly verified via a state of God Consciousness (aka enlightenment).

[thisintegrated]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

Actually that you are totally Alone as God can be directly verified via a state of God Consciousness (aka enlightenment).

You're still not getting it.

Yes, you are all there is.  You can verify it and see all of infinity within you.

But that says nothing about the potential for alien yous to exist.  You have no way to reach out to them, as you can never leave your own self.

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

 

But that says nothing about the potential for alien yous to exist.  

But it does, it's Absolute.  

5 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

 

But that says nothing about the potential for alien yous to exist.  You have no way to reach out to them, as you can never leave your own self.

If you imagine them into being yes - but they exist within you're own Consciousness as the One Absolute God.    You just fool yourself which is how reality is created.  But in Truth, or Absolutely speaking, you are ALL there is.  There are no "others".   You're getting bamboozled by Leo's latest video.

[Inliytened1]

4 hours ago, SQAAD said:

@QandC

I am not doing it . It is doing me. Mental health is not a simple matter. 

 

Stop patronizing.  Leo's last video is very problematic in my opinion and therefore thats why i wrote this post .

One way his video is problematic is this: He talks about connecting to some  other God. Then he questions if he really did talk to some other God. And then he deprecates the distinction between actuality vs fantasy just because Reality is Imagination. This is very dangerous and makes no sense. Just because Reality is Imagination , it does not mean there isn't a difference between actuality and fantasy. 

It is like saying because Reality is Real, then anything i imagine is also real. Yes everything is real but still there is a huge differerence between making stuff up in your head and actually experiencing something actual. Blurring this distinction is extremely dangerous. You can not survive on eating fantastical apples even if they are ''real''.

I'm very surprised he released this yet pulled a video he spent years planning and developing and validating- yet seemingly released this one on a whim...all because I think his previous validations were too much to stomach.  

 

[thisintegrated]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

But it does, it's Absolute.  

If you imagine them into being yes - but they exist within you're own Consciousness as the One Absolute God.    You just fool yourself which is how reality is created.  But in Truth, or Absolutely speaking, you are ALL there is.  There are no "others".   You're getting bamboozled by Leo's latest video.

I'm not unique.  There's nothing unique about me being god.  There's no limit to how many "the one god"s there can be.  Any limits are self-imposed, and imaginary.

Edited May 18, 2022 by thisintegrated

[zurew]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

If you imagine them into being yes - but they exist within you're own Consciousness as the One Absolute God.    You just fool yourself which is how reality is created.  But in Truth, or Absolutely speaking, you are ALL there is.  There are no "others".   You're getting bamboozled by Leo's latest video.

He is not getting bamboozled. He is right. You can't leave your absolute solipsistic bubble. Anything that would be potentially outside of your solipsistic bubble you cannot possibly know anything about. 

We are talking about a claim, that cannot be verified.  --> so the conclusion should be 'I don't know' not 'There isn't any'.

Edited May 18, 2022 by zurew

[Arugoel]

Just a few thoughts for those that are triggered by Leo’s style:

In my opinion, Leo’s gift is his arrogance and lack of humility. The reason I say this is, that without his level of arrogance, how he speaks about awakening/spirituality would be impossible. So just consider, if Leo didn’t think of himself as the greatest, most extraordinary explorer of consciousness, then what would his videos look like? Probably pretty dull, ordinary, and uncontroversial, not to mention useless for the rest of us. Does anyone want that here? The beauty is that Leo couldn’t care less about how he’s being perceived, what impact he’s having on viewers, or how ludicrous people take him to be. This goes hand in hand with the radical content he puts out, and I don’t think you can get one without the other.

So if you’re bothered by what’s happening here, my advice would be, to stop taking Leo so seriously and simply use his content as a source of contemplation and reference. I think it’s worth recognizing that Leo is still very young. He’d never admit it, but he’s (I think it’s fair to say) reasonably immature and socially underdeveloped (at least as far as the character he portrays publicly, which I think he does on purpose just for the sake of being a provocateur). I wouldn’t expect much improvement from him in that regard, but when it comes to his ability to break down complex issues and coherently discuss them, I don’t think anyone is doing it better.

For anyone new here, please look through the catalog of video content available on Leo’s Youtube. Look at the immense scope of material he’s covered and notice the degree of depth he captures on each topic. It’s truly impressive and I have to say thanks to Leo for keeping it up.  

Lastly, although Leo probably won’t agree, in my estimation, he uses the term solipsism in an unconventional way. When he speaks of solipsism he’s speaking from God’s perspective. As God, reality is solipsistic. However, you’ll see in many videos (and I could cite specifically) where Leo explicitly discusses God fragmenting into discrete centers of awareness. Leo says idealism doesn’t go far enough, but if you pay attention to the details, it’s clear as day that Leo is describing reality more in line with idealism than solipsism (at least regarding how these terms are conventionally used in philosophy).

[Inliytened1]

20 minutes ago, zurew said:

He is not getting bamboozled. He is right. You can't leave your absolute solipsistic bubble. Anything that would be potentially outside of your solipsistic bubble you cannot possibly know anything about. 

We are talking about a claim, that cannot be verified.  --> so the conclusion should be 'I don't know' not 'There isn't any'.

And im saying you can know Absolutely.  (Awakening)  ...This is a dualistic paradigm because these other Gods would be actually separate from you.   It gets tricky bexause you can imagine this into reality and it seems like they actually are, (the duality of imagination and real dissolves or collapses) ......until you realize they were you.

[zurew]

28 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

And im saying you can know Absolutely.  (Awakening)  ...This is a dualistic paradigm because these other Gods would be actually separate from you.   It gets tricky bexause you can imagine this into reality and it seems like they actually are, (the duality of imagination and real dissolves or collapses) ......until you realize they were you.

What would limit God to make Absolute copies of itself ?

You are totally right in the 'you can imagine them into reality'. Thats true. However, we are talking about someting that is outside of your imagination. Basically something that you are not conscious of. You are 100% conscious of your solipsistic dream, you can create whatever you want, you can be whatever you want to be. I know, that nothing can be outside of my imagination/consciousness because i can't stop imagining, and thats the point, that from God's viewpoint nothing can be outside of his consciousness, because he is unable to stop imagining. He cannot escape his imagination. He cannot be aware of anything that is outside its own dream. The only thing that could be separate from God is an exact Absolute copy of God. 

Being Absolute comes with this cost, that you can't be conscious of other Absolutes and you can only interact with your own dream.

 

These bubbles would be separate. They would be separate, because each God could do whatever he wants to do in his own solipsistic bubble, and no other God could intervene his dream. This is the Absolute power, being able to clone your Absolute self an infinite number of times. Each and every God could create and do whatever they want  by being and doing their own dreams.

Each and every God would be able to imagine an infinite other number of Gods in their own dream, but that still wouldn't change that possiblity, that other God's actually existing that they wouldn't be aware of.

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, zurew said:

What would limit God to make Absolute copies of itself ?

You are totally right in the 'you can imagine them into reality'. Thats true. However, we are talking about someting that is outside of your imagination. Basically something that you are not conscious of. You are 100% conscious of your solipsistic dream, you can create whatever you want, you can be whatever you want to be. I know, that nothing can be outside of my imagination/consciousness because i can't stop imagining, and thats the point, that from God's viewpoint nothing can be outside of his consciousness, because he is unable to stop imagining. He cannot escape his imagination. He cannot be aware of anything that is outside its own dream. The only thing that could be separate from God is an exact Absolute copy of God. 

Being Absolute comes with this cost, that you can't be conscious of other Absolutes and you can only interact with your own dream.

 

These bubbles would be separate. They would be separate, because each God could do whatever he wants to do in his own solipsistic bubble, and no other God could intervene his dream. This is the Absolute power, being able to clone your Absolute self an infinite number of times. Each and every God could create and do whatever they want  by being and doing their own dreams.

Each and every God would be able to imagine an infinite other number of Gods in their own dream, but that still wouldn't change that possiblity, that other God's actually existing that they wouldn't be aware of.

What you are missing is there is no difference between that and you dreaming infinite dreams one after the other and not remembering them.  Its identical. All differences ultimately collapse and this includes exact copies of yourself.  It's the same concept as zero=infinity.

[Reciprocality]

I am not awake and almighty, but even I understand that this thread does not aid people in an awakened direction, but makes them more deeply committed to their feeling or thinking that they do.

There is something weird about how many of you react towards what Leo is saying. the man is so almighty he will become your grandma if he is not already, and now he is everyone's grandma but also there are no grandma.

Let me ask you, what is on the line? If not some conviction you hold that is itself far removed from direct experience? Are you gonna have a perpetuity guru or are you actually become your own man when the enlightenment have burst your heart at last? So far as I can tell you are here still precisely because you have attachment issues, by attributing Gura with a responsibility he admittedly is a little to glad to hold onto. 

 

It is pretty amazing if in the midst of the most potent existential awakening you find some conscious entity, I bet it would not matter much then if it contradicted the shit out of your teacher. I even bet you would find your prior self rather amusing.

[Siedah]

i am glad that many others feel in similar ways about this latest video.. multiple gods are making solipsism look amazing right about now ! The idea of multiple gods takes away the majestic and grandiose quality of what i feel God should be!

However, I am yet to watch the second half of the video though!

Edited May 19, 2022 by Siedah

[integral]

Its about state.