Leo Doesn't Make Sense Anymore

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On 17/05/2022 at 11:56 AM, machiavelli said:

@Leo Gura Because I already wasted my 10 years on this thing doing this work. Whats the point of teaching on youtube when you cant clear doubts on forum? At one point you have absolute stance on absolute solipsism and on other time you are saying other bubbles exist having their own experiences?

All your previous videos is contradicted by your current video. 

Sollipsism is bullshit. Quit taking drugs and get back to meditating. Quit believing everything someone who is obviously tripping balls tells you.

Just ask yourself a simple question - if this person is God right now and has all that infinite knowledge. Why can't they overcome the physical limitations of this plane? remember quantum healing? bullshit just like all the other stories that claim miracles.

Leo will get to this point eventually. 

[Hojo]

I think he is saying that there are other sovereign beings out there that are not part of your dream currently and that you can never know if they are sovereign or part of your own dream. but other gods can enter your dream and it will make it their dream and your dream. It can be anything a cat a dog a human but they are their own being as powerful as you are as god. So as they enter your dream you can never know if they are their own sovereign beings or your own imagination so solipsism still remains. But they have as much power in your dream as you do. The goal is to get all the infinite godheads to awaken and connect and become one. It still solipsism because its still god doing it it just gave them the sovereignty to do whatever they want.

Edited May 20, 2022 by Hojo

[Breakingthewall]

On 19/5/2022 at 0:09 AM, Arugoel said:

Just a few thoughts for those that are triggered by Leo’s style:

In my opinion, Leo’s gift is his arrogance and lack of humility. The reason I say this is, that without his level of arrogance, how he speaks about awakening/spirituality would be impossible. So just consider, if Leo didn’t think of himself as the greatest, most extraordinary explorer of consciousness, then what would his videos look like? Probably pretty dull, ordinary, and uncontroversial, not to mention useless for the rest of us. Does anyone want that here? The beauty is that Leo couldn’t care less about how he’s being perceived, what impact he’s having on viewers, or how ludicrous people take him to be. This goes hand in hand with the radical content he puts out, and I don’t think you can get one without the other.

So if you’re bothered by what’s happening here, my advice would be, to stop taking Leo so seriously and simply use his content as a source of contemplation and reference. I think it’s worth recognizing that Leo is still very young. He’d never admit it, but he’s (I think it’s fair to say) reasonably immature and socially underdeveloped (at least as far as the character he portrays publicly, which I think he does on purpose just for the sake of being a provocateur). I wouldn’t expect much improvement from him in that regard, but when it comes to his ability to break down complex issues and coherently discuss them, I don’t think anyone is doing it better.

For anyone new here, please look through the catalog of video content available on Leo’s Youtube. Look at the immense scope of material he’s covered and notice the degree of depth he captures on each topic. It’s truly impressive and I have to say thanks to Leo for keeping it up.  

Lastly, although Leo probably won’t agree, in my estimation, he uses the term solipsism in an unconventional way. When he speaks of solipsism he’s speaking from God’s perspective. As God, reality is solipsistic. However, you’ll see in many videos (and I could cite specifically) where Leo explicitly discusses God fragmenting into discrete centers of awareness. Leo says idealism doesn’t go far enough, but if you pay attention to the details, it’s clear as day that Leo is describing reality more in line with idealism than solipsism (at least regarding how these terms are conventionally used in philosophy).

Welcome to the forum. awesome text. I hope to read more from you

 

[RMQualtrough]

On 19/05/2022 at 10:48 PM, Siedah said:

i am glad that many others feel in similar ways about this latest video.. multiple gods are making solipsism look amazing right about now ! The idea of multiple gods takes away the majestic and grandiose quality of what i feel God should be!

However, I am yet to watch the second half of the video though!

I've seen Hindu Gods on DMT. Fucking strange because I'm white English with no religious inclination prior... The Gods I saw were aspects of me at that point of tripping-balls, though. I don't really know if they even did anything other than appear there looking all pretty. I was above them in any case, except my ego self which was not......

[TRUTHWITHCAPITALT]

@SQAAD one of the defining moments of Actualized.org is that disclosing that the channel is for real psychonats, wisdom intusiast and insight hoarders.

Unfortunately or fortunately Psychedelics does not work on stupid selfish people.

My best advice is reduce your level of stupidity then probably it will make sense.

Forget Leo who created a platform to be understood in a fool proof fashion, people who worked on themselves with all the positive insights from Actualized.org have seen their life flourish beyond imagination. This includes people coming from a dense spiral dynamics stage purple community.

You don't need to defend Leo he has said don't defend me countless times.

It is a Do it yourself method. Either use it or leave it.

[Breakingthewall]

@RMQualtrough

3 hours ago, RMQualtrough said:

I've seen Hindu Gods on DMT. Fucking strange because I'm white English with no religious inclination prior... The Gods I saw were aspects of me at that point of tripping-balls, though. I don't really know if they even did anything other than appear there looking all pretty. I was above them in any case, except my ego self which was not......

I imagine you in an opium den 100 years ago looking very English, with fancy clothes and pocket watches ?