Leo Gura

Spiral Dynamics Stage Red Examples Mega-Thread

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Connor McGregor has become so successful and famous not just because he is an excellent fighter, but because he has embodied stage red so well in a sport that rewards intimidation tactics, charismatic speech, and controversial behavior. 

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I like this video of Patty Mayo because it shows the respect that red individuals have for other red individuals. At 37:55, Patty and his crew finally catch the boy that they are after. The boy puts up a really good fight, getting tased 6 times in the process. Once the kid is in handcuffs and the dust settles, I start to get a sense of an underlying respect for the kid, despite him giving the 3 cops so much trouble. He is big and strong and tough, this is what stage red respects. If it was some tie dye shirt wearing hippy, Patty and his men would have scoffed and belittled him. Red is not impressed with a stage green character. 

I think Patty is blue/red. The red in him allows him to act aggressively when he needs to and the blue in him grounds him in the principles and ethics of police work. His empathy is not high, but to do this work, you don't need empathy, in fact it would get in the way of doing your job. You don't want a stage green hippy working as a police officer. A blue / red person is perfect jobs like police work, military work, and security. 

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A very interesting example of how vMEME Red paramilitary groups can have strong ties to governments worldwide 

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Not Anneke Lucas but the perpetrators of her abuse.


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The Mongols as described in the Monk's account


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1. The ISIS members in the Badush prison massacre.

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2. The Wehrmacht in the Babi Yar massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar (See section titled: 'Massacres of September 1941')

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3. The Taliban in the 2014 Peshawar school massacre 

 


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What I like about this video is that, at the end, they try to contextualize what is happening in that environment, in order to understand why these vMEME Red pirates have emerged. 

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On 6/12/2023 at 1:10 PM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

 

Putin's life philosophy in a nutshell.

Thanks for sharing!


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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@Leo Gura Isn't that some simple common sense though?

Everybody would strike if sufficiently threatened. The problem with Putin is that he is overly aggressive and cruel. 

Edited by Vrubel

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On 12/6/2023 at 10:10 PM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

 

Naive, much better the American way. 

when the fight is unavoidable, provoke and allow your opponent to strike first, (or even strike yourself) a spectacular blow without much effect, planned and controlled. then crush them. you will have the victory and the reason. The second is almost so important than the first.

Edited by Breakingthewall

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Limp Bizkit - Break Stuff (lyrics)

It's just one of those days where you don't want to wake up
Everything is fucked, everybody sucks
You don't really know why but you want to justify
Rippin' someone's head off
No human contact
And if you interact, your life is on contract
Your best bet is to stay away motherfucker
It's just one of those days

It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, let the shit slip
Or you'll be leaving with a fat lip
It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, talking that shit

It's just one of those days, feeling like a freight train
First one to complain leaves with a bloodstain
Damn right, I'm a maniac
You better watch your back 'cause I'm fucking up your program
And if you're stuck up, you just lucked up
Next in line to get fucked up
Your best bet is to stay away, motherfucker
It's just one of those days

It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, let the shit slip
Or you'll be leaving with a fat lip
It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, talking that shit punk
So come and get it

I feel like shit
My suggestion, is to keep your distance
'Cause right now I'm dangerous
But we've all felt like shit
And been treated like shit
All those motherfuckers that want to step up

I hope you know, I pack a chainsaw (chainsaw)
I'll skin your ass raw (ass raw)
And if my day keeps going this way, I just might
Break something tonight
I pack a chainsaw (chainsaw)
I'll skin your ass raw (ass raw)
And if my day keeps going this way, I just might
Break something tonight
I pack a chainsaw (chainsaw)
I'll skin your ass raw (ass raw)
And if my day keeps going this way, I just might
Break your fucking face tonight

Give me something to break
Give me something to break
Just give me something to break
How 'bout your fucking face?

I hope you know, I pack a chainsaw
What?
A chainsaw
What?
A motherfucking chainsaw
What?
So come and get it

It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, let the shit slip
Or you'll be leaving with a fat lip
It's all about the he says, she says bullshit
I think you better quit, talking that shit, punk
So come and get it

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A very good example of how someone can get trapped into a vMEME RED/blue group, and how to escape it.

 

 

 

P.S: I say these groups  has some blue in it, because they believe in some (distorted) moral code  on how society should be organized, that doesn't involve just the fulfillment of their selfish needs, but that is completely polluted with hatred, bigotry and egocentism, which allows them to justify their actions by means of force and violence.

 

 

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I found this video on Leo's Blog.

A very good example of how vMEME Red prostitution works , and the psychological tricks that pimps do in order to get the girls and keep them around. 

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Red vs Green

 

 

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