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Mapping Out Leo's Psychedelic Insights Within Vedantic Perspective

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@Preetom 😭 but you lose your cognition capabilities! That’s why you THINK it’s the end. 😭😭. 

Your cognition/ mind must become enlightened aswell to be an overall well rounded enlightened person. 

Bringing non duality back through to duality. Etc.. 

practicality and pragmatism bought about in your everyday life. Unless your Leo and your a thrill seeker. 

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6 minutes ago, Preetom said:

And there is little to no leeway to make personal stories and doctrines around it as things are precisely defined lol

Btw thanks for posting the quotes from Ribhu Gita. Those are the real gems of this thread :)

And I'm foreshadowing the nightmare of Leo coming back and making all of us bald so that no hair splitting is possible :D

(wait is that why he is bald in the first place?)

😂

You're welcome, it took some time to look them up in the book and write them down, but it wasn't too bad :P

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19 minutes ago, Preetom said:

And there is little to no leeway to make personal stories and doctrines around it as things are precisely defined lol

The fact it’s precisely defined ISSSSSSS the reason why it’s not true. It’s the same exact thing as someone saying to you: 

you should live your life in a way that is fruitful and abundantly filled. 

Where as you believe that you can sit around all day doing nothing like a yogi. 

Both are true and both are incorrect. Relative to each other 

so this enlightenment you “define clearly” is relative to the absolute lol. This is mathematical proof to prove enlightenment isn’t the end as we know it. 

Why? Because you can’t encapsulate infinity! Enlightenment is an attempt to find god. Not to solve your personal issues. 

It’s an attempt to understand what’s going on in reality and what it is and encapsulate it. 

Its just people STOP when they think they’ve encapsulated it and what is this ? THIS IS EGO. 

Enlightened people are trapped in EGO. And have decived themselves they aren’t. Because their distinctions have broken down. So by default their own self deception is the following: 

“i am god, god is ego. I have no ego.” This is their assumption their whole reality is predicated on. If they questioned this it would break their reality and that’s why they don’t! 

It’s not their ego! EGO IS A FACET OF THE ABSOLUTE. EGO DOES NOT MEAN AN INDIVIDUAL ENTITY BECAUSE INFINITY IS ONE THING. INFINITY ISSS EGO. you are god, thinking your human and that have changed to god. 

This is distinctions all messed up. There was never a you in the first place! 

So your ego in “duality” is enlightenment. It’s only enlightenment if your aware of how you convince yourself of self deception. Enlightenment is the END OF MAYA 

REALITY IS DIRECT! 

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@Anna1 Give yourself some inner space, you can never be not right.

Your value is infinite once you can see it in everything else 

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@Aakash

So basically you are shouting as demand for silence. And you've made so much assumptions about enlightened people, winternight, pre and post enlightenment, Leo, vedanta etc and posted so much in so little time that I can't even quote them now due to page restrictions lol

Anyway no one is saying here Vedanta is THE TRUTH. If that was the case, there would be no search for truth. A person would simply write a book about it and that would be the end of it. Vedanta is a thorn used to remove another thorn; and its a very effective thorn at that if understood properly xD

There is a saying that after self-realization the Vedas(knowledge) becomes the Avedas(ignorance). The upanishads and all this nonduality and god talks are all part of Vedas.

 

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''Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather''

- Bill Hicks

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@Aakash meri jaan

you're back already! :) welcome 


"When you discover Stillness in the movement, and the Unchanging within the changing, then you have found your eternal home."
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Just now, SoonHei said:

@Aakash meri jaan

you're back already! :) welcome 

great!

now good boy is writing in hindi :D

 

 


''Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather''

- Bill Hicks

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The world was "created out of" Brahman/awareness by Isvara/God.

So, the world is Brahman, but Brahman is not the world. As the world can be negated and not affect Brahman.

Too complicate even more,  there is no seperation. Just as you can't seperate a reflection in a mirror.

 

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1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

For those who need clarification:

Brahman - formlessness

world = form

 

@Inliytened1 

brahman = sand on the beach

world = drawings in the sand on that beach

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brahman = paper

world = words on that paper

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brahman = legos

world = structure made out of legos

 

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"When you discover Stillness in the movement, and the Unchanging within the changing, then you have found your eternal home."
♥ Love ♥ Leads The Way...
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@DrewNows yeah, Anna1 has had some bad luck recently and quit her job yesterday, so has been in quite a bad mood.

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3 minutes ago, Preetom said:

great!

now good boy is writing in hindi :D

 

 

@Preetom hopefull that aint against forum rules?

and no... i was talking in Urdu, not Hindi ;)


"When you discover Stillness in the movement, and the Unchanging within the changing, then you have found your eternal home."
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1 minute ago, SoonHei said:

@Preetom hopefull that aint against forum rules?

and no... i was talking in Urdu, not Hindi ;)

dang there are so many common words amidst these languages 

 


''Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather''

- Bill Hicks

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@Anna1  According to the teaching - is God/Isvara created by Brahman as well?  or was God always separate?

If Brahman created God and God created the world then these are dualities that sprung from Brahman or non-duality (pure awareness)

They can be seen as separate or they can be seen as the same as the underlying substance is the same - all is One.

Beyond all teachings One can see the world as still Awareness and Awareness still the world.

That is what you become conscious of as an Absolute on Awakening.  There is no teaching for this.  It is just Absolute Truth.  That is Oneness - Infinity.   I did not learn this from anyone i became it and learned it from my myself.

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We must not cease from exploration and at the end of all our exploring will be to arrive at the place where we began and to know the place for the first time.       --T.S Eliot

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8 minutes ago, SoonHei said:

meri jaan

 

4 minutes ago, SoonHei said:

hopefull that aint against forum rules?

It is. Use language that everyone can understand, please.

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@Anna1😔 Ittle be all right.

Quit your job? Keep up the empowerment 😎

 

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the paper and the drawing on it are ONE

 

you can say: look at my drawing! or you can also say, look at my paper!

paper = drawing = paper = prawing = daper

same way

brahman/God = world/maya

 

all you're doing here is picking your labels and which POV to look at it from.


"When you discover Stillness in the movement, and the Unchanging within the changing, then you have found your eternal home."
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Existence in Absolute Truth is central to Vedanta epistemology. Only Brahman alone is real, the world is Brahman. 

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@Preetom well I did only say I was conceptually enlightened 😁. If you want the truth, there is no joy, love , peace  or anything in this reality. These are things we crave as the buddah put it so nicely. 

I am only explaining it to you. You must ultimately experience it for yourself. Which is I’m guessing what Leo realised when he could not put words against experience in his dpt trip. There was only pure isnesss! Pure imagination! Pure being! 

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3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Anna1  According to the teaching - is God/Isvara created by Brahman as well?  or was God always separate?

If Brahman created God and God created the world then these are dualities that sprung from Brahman or non-duality (pure awareness)

They can be seen as separate or they can be seen as the same as the underlying substance is the same - all is One.

Beyond all teachings One can see the world as still Awareness and Awareness still the world.

That is what you become conscious of as an Absolute on Awakening.  There is no teaching for this.  It is just Absolute Truth.  That is Oneness - Infinity.   I did not learn this from anyone i became it and learned it from my myself.

This is where you are misunderstanding Advaita Vedanta.

Vedanta is trying to point out that this God and world business is not even happening. It's precisely our ignorance that impart reality on these things in the first place. And due to this ignorance, the distinction between form-formless, brahman-world seems to arise.

5 minutes ago, Natasha said:

It is. Use language that everyone can understand, please.

Good god, it's only a little inside joke among good boys. Please rest assured miss mod :D

 


''Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather''

- Bill Hicks

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3 minutes ago, Natasha said:

It is. Use language that everyone can understand, please.

YES MAA'AM! <3

 

I will only use the language of Love from now on.

but don't hold me to it!


"When you discover Stillness in the movement, and the Unchanging within the changing, then you have found your eternal home."
♥ Love ♥ Leads The Way...
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