kieranperez

What is your Enneagram Type?

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6w5

6 with a wing of 5, according to a free online test

Edit : oh oops I took a modified test that gives a subset. So 6.

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@kieranperez @Emerald Enneagrams neglect A LOT of other personality traits + make the mistake of putting radically different humans in the same bucket.

1. The Reformer:  I am a very strong idealist/perfectionist + with great desire to radically transform/reform the world, yet I don't have the fear of being corrupt/evil, because the notion of evil is completely relative to culture (only a stage Blue/Green human who doesn't see beyond their nose will hold their notion of evil is part of reality).

They gave examples of "Reformers", but damn, so much mixture of Green/Blue which conflicts with each other. Putting them into the same category is WAY too broad.

5. The Investigator: This is were I started calling Enneagrams complete BS. 

Putting Bill Gates (now he is very strong Green, Leo confirmed) + Zuckerberg in the same group as Einstein/S. Hawking (strong Orange with some Yellow) ??? 

 

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9, i/enfp. How much do these two concepts correlate/correspond with spiral dynamics? 

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13 hours ago, 111111 said:

Putting Bill Gates (now he is very strong Green, Leo confirmed) + Zuckerberg in the same group as Einstein/S. Hawking (strong Orange with some Yellow) ???

You're conflating types with stages.

Regardless of your type (Myers-Briggs, Enneagram, masculine/feminine, etc) you can be at various stages of Spiral development.

You can be a 5 Blue, 5 Orange, 5 Green, 5 Yellow, 5 Turquoise just like you can be a feminine Blue, feminine Orange, feminine Green, feminine Yellow, feminine Turquoise.


"Be melting snow. Wash yourself of yourself." -- Rumi

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5- Thinker & 4 - Individualist 

lean towards 6 (loyalist) though. Need to work on being more 4. 

I guess it depends on how you perceive the World. In my perception Tony Blair, Obama, Bush, are not peacemakers, based on death tolls, some very horrific, like continued use of phosphorous weapons, maybe flamethrowers would be more humane, but the perception does not look as good. Add to that destruction of infrastructure. However it's entirely possible, they see themselves as Peacemakers. And are widely seen as peacemakers.

Perhaps a correction mechanism. I guess if you were genuinely enlightened it wouldn't apply, you wouldn't care and invest ego in it.

Even everyday, things Nursery school teacher is probably a nine, eight or seven, but if she goes around phoning up parents, social services, unless she's in a nice area, might not last long. If the parents have any number of potential problem. Who knows?

Like Drug dealing on the street, you see it, but you don't see it...… I guess like the pink gorilla thing or something like that.
 

Numerous diagrams online obviously, pinch of salt stuff.

Be interesting to watch the video on perception. The unconscious is powerful.

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Of Interest: Aristotle(Teleology), Carl Jung, Christopher Langan(Holo-pantheism),  William James (Pragmatism).

Evil "Caesar's Wife must be above suspicion".: Plato (Ideal forms), John Stuart Mill (Anti-teleos Utilitarianism), Leibniz (Trinitarianism), Spinoza(Pantheism) Buddhism(Paradox), Jainism?(Hysteria), Nietzsche (Perspectivism) William James (Pragmatism). 

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44 minutes ago, XYZ said:

What tests are you guys using?

I forget who it was but I remember being on Integrallife.com reading about the Enneagram while also doing some reading on the mystic George Gurdjieff and his background story and after reading and listening to some of the stuff on Integral Life I looked up the woman’s name who did the article and video on Google and found the enneagram test on her website.

I don’t take it too to heart but it definitely narrows down on my neurosis and dysfunctional patterns frighteningly well and also tendencies of being. 

I’ve also noticed (just as an added note) a pattern and an underlying theme between all the different test I’ve taken from some that were on the Life Purpose Course to Meyers Briggs to the Enneagram, and so on. 

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1 :SCorrelates to my stressful conscientiousness.


"Every culture that's ever existed has operated under the illusion that it understood 95% of reality and that the other 5% would be delivered in the next 18 months, and from Egypt forward they've been running around believing they had a perfect grip on things and yet we look back at every society that preceded us with great smugness at how naive they all were. Well, it never occurs to us, then, that maybe we're whistling in the dark too!" -- Terence McKenna

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@John Lula

On 12/11/2018 at 9:42 AM, John Lula said:

1 :SCorrelates to my stressful conscientiousness.

Hearing someone complain about too much conscientiousness offends me to the same degree that a starving African child is offended by hearing a middle aged white women complain that her steak is slightly too cold. 

It doesn't actually offend me, the last paragraph I typed was just something that popped in my mind. Damn my humour is dry. 

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4w5 sp/sx


Spirituality is any movement towards the Unnamable. Everything is spiritual.

The only true way out Resistance is going into it because any way out of it is staying in it.

The purest life possible is surrendering to the Absolute.

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@lmfaoxD

Still stressful to want to do stuff all the time. And if I don't do something (because I am training on not doing stuff) then my mind complains about how I should be reaching some goal or doing some task.


"Every culture that's ever existed has operated under the illusion that it understood 95% of reality and that the other 5% would be delivered in the next 18 months, and from Egypt forward they've been running around believing they had a perfect grip on things and yet we look back at every society that preceded us with great smugness at how naive they all were. Well, it never occurs to us, then, that maybe we're whistling in the dark too!" -- Terence McKenna

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