Spiral Dynamics Stage Green Examples Mega-Thread

[Key Elements]

Lol...

Have you thought of it this way? We, human beings, are not birds. We don't have "techniques" for mating. We're beyond that. Our main focus in life isn't the techniques in anything. I'm not just talking about mating. 

[Leo Gura]

On 9/21/2019 at 6:02 AM, Pacific Sage said:

 

That is stage Blue.

[Pacific Sage]

 

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

That is stage Blue.

Hi @Leo Gura

Reasons why I thought it was green :

• Desmond chooses not to kill anymore when he nearly kills his brother and then looks at the picture of the testament and then becomes religious but regardless of the reason he chooses non violence going forward.
• Desmond saves a kid's life who was working on a car by quick witted first aid and rushing him to hospital.
• Desmond on seeing his enemy suffer in pain gives him a shot of morphine to help relieve his condition regardless of how his actions had affected his friends in the army.
• Desmond saves a lot more people than that was demanded of him even when he could have gotten down the ridge at any time.

Now that you have pointed out that it is Blue I can see why it is and I might have missed seeing it as blue initially.

• Desmond believes in a black and white testament which is authoritarian in nature.
• Desmond believes God will be in pain when a life is taken.
• Desmond could have been blindly following the religious bible while not knowing the true nature of God even though it seems like he was in a way touched by God when he miraculously saved a lot of lives against all odds.

From yellow's point of view I can sense that the blue in Desmond gave rise to a good shade of Green. I am inclined to say he has more Green than Blue but after you pointed the blue in him and it being the source am unsure of the percentages of Blue and Green in Desmond but id like to conclude that there is both Blue and Green.

 

[CreamCat]

This is a short film about transgenderism.

This is not real. It is a funded film.

I like the atmosphere.

Edited October 2, 2019 by CreamCat

[Forestluv]

@Pacific Sage To me, this looks like a Blue-level internal conflict. One underlying Blue value is that killing is immoral (Thou Shall Not Kill). This is in conflict with Blue-level values of authority and obedience. . . To reach Orange, the protagonist would need to transcend his appeals to two authorities: One authority is an external god which says killing is immoral. The other authority is the military leaders saying killing is justified in war. When the protagonist transitions into Orange, he will transcend the authorities of both the external god and the military leader and realize his personal truth. He will realize he can construct his own moral framework that transcends that of a religious god or military leader. 

Someone at green would have a different orientation. They would see underlying religious dogma and military structure as the problem and want to deconstruct that. 

@CreamCat It's a good message of acceptance. Unfortunately for each instance of this type of acceptance there are 100 instances of rejection and stigmatization. Yet messages such as this video are important to help evolve social consciousness. It is essentially saying "This is what a real soldier looks like. This is what a real father looks like. This is what a real man looks like" to those at Blue. 

[CreamCat]

12 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

It is essentially saying "This is what a real soldier looks like. This is what a real father looks like. This is what a real man looks like" to those at Blue.

"Real" is relative. I'd like to think of it as what a soldier, a father, or a man can be.

It's about exploring what you can be.

By the way, although acceptance and love are great, I would not advise going through physically taxing surgeries.

Going through surgeries so that one looks like the opposite sex puts a lot of stress on the body.

Acceptance of one's biological sex is physically healthier.

Edited October 5, 2019 by CreamCat

[lmfao]

 

[Key Elements]

 

[Pacific Sage]

On 10/5/2019 at 0:15 AM, Serotoninluv said:

@Pacific Sage To me, this looks like a Blue-level internal conflict. One underlying Blue value is that killing is immoral (Thou Shall Not Kill). This is in conflict with Blue-level values of authority and obedience. . . To reach Orange, the protagonist would need to transcend his appeals to two authorities: One authority is an external god which says killing is immoral. The other authority is the military leaders saying killing is justified in war. When the protagonist transitions into Orange, he will transcend the authorities of both the external god and the military leader and realize his personal truth. He will realize he can construct his own moral framework that transcends that of a religious god or military leader. 

Someone at green would have a different orientation. They would see underlying religious dogma and military structure as the problem and want to deconstruct that. 

 

I see what you are saying. At Green it's more authentic than just following a rule. 

[ivory]

On 10/5/2019 at 0:07 AM, CreamCat said:

Going through surgeries so that one looks like the opposite sex puts a lot of stress on the body.

Acceptance of one's biological sex is physically healthier.

I wonder how it affects a person's mind.

[CreamCat]

3 hours ago, ivory said:

I wonder how it affects a person's mind.

Going through recovery after transgender surgeries looked really painful. I would not recommend it unless you absolutely have to go through the surgeries.

[Bernardo Carleial]

 

[Stef_BG]

Is it just me or Leo's last video on "The Big Picture Of Global Politics" is a stage green viewpoint?

https://www.actualized.org/insights/the-big-picture-of-global-politics

[Damien]

An introductory speech regarding the purpose of the civil disobedience movement of Extinction Rebellion. I highly recommend this speech to people who struggle with listening/hearing someone's message based on the speaker's appearance. The parrot is probably her spirit animal but she is definitely not parroting. Her speech is well constructed and can serve as a really good summary of stage green's preoccupation and worldview. IMO this seems like a healthy expression of green trying her best to enact change in policy and convey her message.

[Davidess]

Stage green on climate change, criticising stage Orange.

[Maarten]

9 hours ago, Keyhole said:

 

Looks more like an example of a person who does not embrace their feminine side to me, rather than someone who is authentically expressing themselves, no?

[Maarten]

Also, what is up with stage Orange. I really want to avoid it, but it seems like there is no way. It seems like stage Orange teaches you the lies that you are going to have to admit to yourself were lies in stage Green, no?

[Iiris]

I love these two

 

[Forestluv]

 

[Key Elements]