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Kriya Yoga Mega-Thread

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19 hours ago, Paan said:

How do you guys cope with strong emotions boiling up? Having unbalanced energy in the lower chakras.

I recently started doing the kriya supreme fire and feel quick bursts of irritation, eating alot more and hard to sleep. I know this can be the shadowside of yoga.

If I remember right, Gamana recommends exercising, walking in nature, swimming, connecting with animals, doing maha mudra,... . I would add cold showers as very effective 

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@SoonHei

On 8/21/2019 at 7:14 PM, SoonHei said:

 

so far, i found based on my YouTube/online search the following: (not sure of names, describing the actions involved )

>> right and left nostril breathing - alternating between the two

>> inhale 1 breath and let it out in 7 mini breaths

>> single nostril breathing and punching the armpit with the other arm

>> hands up like a V and dropping down on out-breath hitting the side ribs

 

This seems like a variation of Tummo meditation. theres a whole lot of hitting and jumping in those. I feel this sort is quite advanced and need some overlooking by a master. highly doubt if this falls under kriya yoga but Kriya supreme fire is a part of tummo though.

 


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@nistake

On 8/22/2019 at 2:26 PM, nistake said:

Do you guys do the preparatory techniques or do you just straight-up go to pranayamas and other "main" techniques?

I make sure to do Nadi shodana, Ujjayi and Talabya as I feel these silences mind from thoughts and helps focus better with chakras.

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@reves Thanks for the reply.

Do you have any good hatha yoga routine, ive looked it up but there's so many

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Hey guys,

 

how long are your kriya routines?

 

I want to increase the amount of pranayamas per meditation

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1 hour ago, Paan said:

@reves Thanks for the reply.

Do you have any good hatha yoga routine, ive looked it up but there's so many

I have no special routine, I just do sun salutations, and I combine this with a routine of exercises I make to prevent lower-back pain. As @GreenWoods  mentioned, I also found cold showers effective. Or you can try one of the many techniques that Leo describes in his Body Awareness video: https://actualized.org/articles/body-awareness

Hope it helps!

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@herghly

Hey! Mine takes about 40 mins. Thinking of increasing my KPs too.

@reves

I love this video of Leo's. Insightful.

@Paan

You must have seen this already, this is good. 


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After I did the pranayama, then went on to chanting om through the chakras.

I was focusing on the 3rd eye. Then this tunnel formed out of the blackness It felt like I was on a rollercoaster moving through this tunnel of bright white light. 

Did anyone experience this?

How long is it recommended to do initiation practices before going into the full practices?

Been doing it for a whole 3 weeks and it is such an insane practice. 

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@Pacific Sage Ive seen that, thank you :) im gonna start doing some of the movements and make a routine of it

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@GreenWoods How many mahmudra sets do you do?

 

I've been thinking what's the optimal amount to do per 12 pranayamas.

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3 hours ago, herghly said:

@GreenWoods How many mahmudra sets do you do?

Currently none. I prefer to do more kriya supreme fires instead.

3 hours ago, herghly said:

I've been thinking what's the optimal amount to do per 12 pranayamas.

From little research it suggests that the purpose of mahamudra is:

- open the knot at muladhara

- incite the prana to enter the shushumna at muladhara

- stretch the spine, make it easier to feel the shushumna 

- as grounding (according to Gamana). It should be done when you feel strong side effects from supreme fire

- improving the systems capacity (while lowering side effects)

- more purposes which I am not aware of

All of those things are (to a larger or smaller extend) adressed by supreme fire and pranayama too. Evaluate for yourself how important maha mudra is for you specifically. Gamana suggests (in his kundalini book) sth like doing it and after some years when your body is more prepared replace it by more supreme fire.

Per 12 pranayamas I would do no more than one maha mudra (except one is a beginner)

I wouldn't do it longer than 15% of your routine time (except your routine is already very potent but you want to lengthen the routine nevertheless, then lengthen it by adding more maha mudras)

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When I do spinal breathing, my body starts to vibrate really crazy, I also get some kind of ecstatic feeling in my body. For a week I have been feeling some pressure in my head at the top. Keep going?

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what do you feel about this? Im thinking about changing from the gamana routine with Kriya supreme fire to lahiris routine.

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2 hours ago, JonasVE12 said:

When I do spinal breathing, my body starts to vibrate really crazy, I also get some kind of ecstatic feeling in my body. 

Pernani experiences that too. perhaps he knows some good advice. Otherwise just do it as long it is comfortable, then do other techniques 

2 hours ago, JonasVE12 said:

 For a week I have been feeling some pressure in my head at the top. Keep going?

Have you been focusing on that spot beforehand?

1 hour ago, Paan said:

what do you feel about this? Im thinking about changing from the gamana routine with Kriya supreme fire to lahiris routine.

I am not sure. Gamanas routine is more potent and might thus pose more risks. Kundalini yoga, sexual kungfu and psychedelics is even more powerful and many people do them still. The youtuber probably considers them very dangerous.

Then there is the issue that everyone tells a different pranayama and claims that that's what Lahiri taught. Eg Gamana and Ennio Nimis say that Lahiri taught pranayamas with only chanting in the head while eg. the youtuber and Stevens tell the spinal breathing as the original.

If you want to be more safe then do Steven's, if you want to be even more safe then do only mediations, and when you want to be even more safe then do hatha yoga...

Edit:

The risk what he is talking about is probably an increased chance for a premature kundalini awakening. If you think you could handle it then do Gamans, otherwise Stevens

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On 9/8/2019 at 8:36 AM, GreenWoods said:

- open the knot at muladhara

- incite the prana to enter the shushumna at muladhara

Supreme fire and pranayama - to some extend - adress those too. But maha mudra is more gentle and more smoth. For example, supreme fire probably opens that knot through the sheer force of the induced pressure, heat, ... 

Btw, I have added maha mudra to my routine again

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How important is the recommendation of not eating anything 2-3 hours prior? Would 1-1.5 hours still work if you have a fast metabolism? 

 


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3 hours ago, GreenWoods said:

Pernani experiences that too. perhaps he knows some good advice. Otherwise just do it as long it is comfortable, then do other techniques 

Have you been focusing on that spot beforehand?

 

I have been focussing on medulla, looking at bruhmadhya for 3 weeks. 

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5 hours ago, TrynaBeTurquoise said:

How important is the recommendation of not eating anything 2-3 hours prior? Would 1-1.5 hours still work if you have a fast metabolism? 

 

As far as I know it is because of thoses reasons:

-the stomache lock may be uncomfortable /  not possible with a full stomache

- kriya supreme fire generates heat / energy in the stomach region which might impair the digestion

If you don't do those two (or have no problem doing them nevertheless) it should be fine. Then there is:

- In case you set free a lot of prana through pranayama,... the energy at the stomache region increases too.  I don't know what exact effect that could have. But I guess, at the most, that your digestion will not be perfect. So just try it out and if you feel like it does no harm then keep doing it

 

@JonasVE12

- As I started yoga I also experienced pressure  (through energy) in the head. But I could slightly move it. Can you too? i was a bit worried so I decreased the intensity of my practise for a few months. slowly it subsided. and as my system adapted I could increse the intensity again. But I think in most cases I could just have kept going without decreasing the intensity

- When you feel it at the top ( crown chakra?) and it is energy then you are increasing the chance that kundalini awakens. I have almost no knowledge on that but I would assume that in 98% cases your kubdalini wouldn't rise before 8 months.(except you have a very long and intense routine and have pre-experience with energy work)

 

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