Kriya Yoga Mega-Thread

[bazera]

Hey guys, 

I have one question, during Kriya Pranayama breaths, when I move the energy through the chakras, should I concentrate in the spine, on the chakra point itself, or it's posterior ksetram (on the skin on my back, where the chakra is supposed to be). The author didn't explicitly say that, but I intuit that I have to concentrate inside the spine, on the chakra itself, not its posterior ksetram. 

Thanks

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

What?? You have to read the book😂

1. santatagamana Is bullshit. Ennimo nemis' 2024 edition found on "kriyayogainfo.net" and *.C St*vens kriya book are sufficient. The more complex the better. 

2. In addition to the two books mentioned above I would recommend you read "hatha yoga pradipika" and "kriya yoga the science of life force".

 

• The Chakra is a point in the spine. It has the anterior ksetram and the posterior ksetram. You shouldn't be focusing on the skin.. Touch your spine. That is where mind is placed. 
• You are not concentrating On the spine. You are placing your awarenss/mind itself inside the sushumna with is within the spine. You can feel the pole by slightly wobbling the spine(as if ur making small and tiny circles with the head). It is a hollow vibrational tube and it feels the same everytime.
• Right now your experience is inside your skill(kinda sorta). We are moving it to another location in the spine. You should be perceiving reality from that location. It feels weird.
• Use the eye detachment exercise in the appendix of stevens' book. This is what you do when you look into Ajna. The eyes are simply focused at ajna but you aren't looking into it. 
• In kriya you are splitting your awareness and using concentration, feeling the cool and warm current, seeing the star in kutastha, ujjayi breathing,  and chanting 'ong' or the Om namo bagav(b)ate vasudevaya in the chakras=the spine. You never are chating at the anterior ksetram for regular kriya pranayam(unless it is mental kriya).
• You should want to slap yourself after doing 8 Maha mudras. Kriya Yoga is the ultimate test of your will power. Even occultic practices aren't that crazy. People who claim they finished the book are bullshitters. If you can sit and do lesson 17 in the 5th edition of stevens' book everyday for 6 months then HOLY FUCK, YOU HAVE THE WILL POWER OF GOD. Yeah, it is that hard(will power wise and with proper execution). I recommend reading buddhabuddha(visuddimagga and vimuttimagga and abhidhamma to master what concentration is).
• I recommend you read all of Aristotles work so you have a foundation for analysis(first principles). You must operate on first principles and not through analogy. 

Edited January 12, 2024 by MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI

[bazera]

@MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI Thanks for your answer.

At the moment, I don't feel my spine much, and I don't feel that energy at all. It's been only a month since I started the practice. Is that normal?

I just try as best as I can to visualize some current pumping up and down with my breath, and piercing through the places where chakras are supposed to be.

[bazera]

Hey guys,

I have one question for those who practice the Supreme Fire technique from Santata Gamana's book.

He says first to inhale, and then do the abdominal lock (Uddiyana bandha). But as I looked up online, doing proper Uddiyana bandha requires first exhaling all the air (lungs should be empty), and then doing the lock. But here he asks us to inhale and move the energy up first, and then lock the belly. 

How do you guys do it?

[bazera]

@Ayham Oh thanks, this is helpful

[sleep]

Ive been reading santata's books and started doing the kriya pranayama focusing on the crown as per the instructions in his second book on kriya, but he mentions that you should so it after being experienced with doing the kriya pranayama in the third eye. I do the crown one because I feel like I get more of an effect from that one, but is it dangerous or something? I know nothing about chakras, but is the crown chakra somehow more dangerous to mess with than the third eye one or something? 

[Leo Gura]

On 2/28/2024 at 10:41 AM, Ayham said:

Any tips on actually feeling the cool and warm sensation up and down the spine during kriya pranayama?

Just feel into the heat and cold. Imagine that you are feeling cold and you will start to feel cold. It will be subtle at first but you will get better at creating the feeling.

[Spiritedness]

On 2/28/2024 at 8:41 PM, Ayham said:

Any tips on actually feeling the cool and warm sensation up and down the spine during kriya pranayama?

I've seen somewhere that you can put the tip of your tongue ONLY behind your front teeth. Then, as you're inhaling, you will feel the cold air in your mouth/throat and that can aid in the sensation of the "cold stream rising". I've given it a try and it works! ONLY the tip though, the rest of the tongue should be resting on the floor of your mouth. Took this from Ryan Kurczak, a great Kriya Yoga YTber.

[BojackHorseman]

Can you actually learn how to practive through books? (or would videos be more useful, if anhyone's got recommandations)

I was considering A Systematic Course in the Ancient Tantric Techniques of Yoga and Kriya

But it sounds quite heavy at almost 1000 pages and maybe all of this is not needed to get benefits from kriya practice

Also considering Kriya Secrets Revealed: Complete Lessons and Techniques which is less than half the pages and maybe as good as the other to learn useful basics?

[martins name]

Question for experienced practitioners: How does kriya feel for you and what are the tangible benefits? Do you bathe in bliss or does it still your mind or what? I'm particularly interested in the power of pranayama for ya'll. I  think a lot of people think they are progressing when they start experiencing some interesting energetic phenomena, but it isn't actually real spiritual attainment. 

[BojackHorseman]

5 hours ago, Ayham said:

@BojackHorseman

I like ennio nimis book the most, i dont like stevens, ennios book is available for free online.

After learning from ennios book and practicing for a few months, read santatagamanas books and practice that way, that's how i would do it

Reading this on his website :

"I wish to make clear that the book and video clips do not form a part of a Kriya manual! Certain techniques cannot simply be learned from a manual. There are delicate techniques such as Maha Mudra, Pranayama, Thokar and Yoni Mudra, which cannot be learned correctly without the help of an expert who needs to check their proper execution. "

Which is quite discouraging considering I'll never be able to find teachers where I live

That being said, he's just saying "certain techniques" tho, so maybe I can still learn some kind of basics and get benefits

 

[martins name]

1 hour ago, BojackHorseman said:

I wish to make clear that the book and video clips do not form a part of a Kriya manual!

This is true for all kriya books. I think kriya can be taught from books but no one has made a manual with good enough pedagogics. You have to be smart to get it right. Ennio's book is as good as they come tho, so go with it.

Remember this lesson: Feeling good is your north star in all energy work. That's how you measure your success with a technique.

[Shakazulu]

When practicing the first 18 lessons and even the higher kriyas, do you have to do all the preparatory exercises to practice a certain technique? Certain techniques require 3+ preparatory exercises before you can practice one. What if I want to practice a technique but I don’t have time to practice all the preparatory exercises, does it count? 

[Leo Gura]

Keep it as simple as possible. Focus on what really matters: Deep Pranayamas. You don't need all the bells and whistles.

Edited June 13, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Shakazulu]

@Leo Gura sounds good! Thank you 

[Shakazulu]

@Leo Gura another question... is Ujjayi Pranayama worth practicing or just nadi shodhana? 

[Leo Gura]

Breathing prana up the spine is the core practice and Ujjayi is just part of that. So that is essential.

I skip Nadi Shodhana entirely.

I am no yoga expert. I'm just telling what I do. It may or may not be right. But I strip everything down to the 20% that I believe gives 80% of the results.

Edited June 14, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Avidya]

Are any one here combining Kriya Yoga practice with Vipassana? I know the hong song technique, which is similar to the practice of anapana, and it was originally also practiced by Yogananda. I'm not sure tho it's part of the kriya yoga methodology overall, but i like the vipassanas aim at developing equanimity and concetration. 

[Shakazulu]

@Leo Gura thank you ! 

[Evan Gill]

thoughts on this?

Kriya Breathing Technique

Edited June 18, 2024 by Evan Gill