Women are deceitful by their nature.

[Monster Energy]

What if behind the mask of beauty, fragility, and warmth lies something colder, more calculating, an evolutionary weapon finely tuned for survival. Something that’s not evil in the way we think of villains in a movie, but evil in the way nature itself is indifferent, ruthless, efficient, and dispassionate.

Now imagine the role of woman in this machine, not as a partner, not as a soulmate, but as nature’s bait. Through my lens women were not the better half. They were the seduction of the will itself. Their beauty, their voices, their tenderness, none of it was for love.

It was nature’s disguise.

The true function of woman is reproduction. And every aspect of her personality, psychology, and behavior was merely an adaptation to manipulate man into sacrificing himself for that goal.

That manipulation isn’t always conscious. That’s the terrifying part. It’s not that women wake up plotting to deceive. It’s that deception is baked into the code of their biology. The smiles, the tears, the helplessness, it all serves a purpose. And once you start to see it, you can’t unsee it.

The first illusion is love. Romantic love is the most dangerous lie of all. I believe love was nothing more than a trick played by the will to ensure reproduction.

The feelings we call love, especially the burning desire a man feels for a woman, are simply chemical traps. A man thinks he’s chasing happiness, intimacy, meaning. But what he’s actually chasing is his own extinction. He devotes his resources, his energy, his future for a fleeting illusion. And when that illusion fades, he’s left drained, bitter, and empty.

In terms of understanding this theory, look in nature. Nature uses them, chews them up, and throws them away once their reproductive value declines.

That’s why aging hits women differently. For men, age often brings power, wisdom, even attraction.

For women, age is a kind of death in life. Their social currency vanishes. Their beauty fades.

Their power dissolves. And beneath the surface, many of them know it.

That’s why so many try to hold on to youth through surgeries, makeup, filters, and denial. Because without beauty, their ability to manipulate the game collapses.

To remove the agency of man, we are all man, but wo-man wo = womb the key to keeping us hue-mans here.

Hints the reason of the original sin. We are not supposed to be here.

Cant say the bible never warned us

Proverbs 5:3-5
Proverbs 7:5-27
Proverbs 6:24-26
Revelation 17:1-6

 

 

[LordFall]

I think this is a pretty unhinged take. Women are more conflict-avoidant than men on average but I wouldn't call them deceitful by nature. 

Seems like you're scared of romance and intimacy due to your inability to trust women? What's going on here, let's deconstruct it. 

I would go as far as saying I find women much more integrated and healthy on average than men. I know a lot of men that act cool on the surface but their shadows pop up in many hard-to-predict ways and some of them can be surprisingly deceitful or unreliable while appearing like kind hearted responsible dudes on the surface. 

Edited 18 hours ago by LordFall

[Jirh]

function woman(reproduction) {
  reproduction++;
  
  return children;
}

🤢🤮

[Monster Energy]

2 hours ago, LordFall said:

I think this is a pretty unhinged take. Women are more conflict-avoidant than men on average but I wouldn't call them deceitful by nature. 

Seems like you're scared of romance and intimacy due to your inability to trust women? What's going on here, let's deconstruct it. 

I would go as far as saying I find women much more integrated and healthy on average than men. I know a lot of men that act cool on the surface but their shadows pop up in many hard-to-predict ways and some of them can be surprisingly deceitful or unreliable while appearing like kind hearted responsible dudes on the surface. 

You’re jumping straight to “you’re scared of intimacy” because it’s easier than actually addressing what I’m saying.

I’m not saying women consciously sit around trying to manipulate men. That’s not even the point. Evolution doesn’t need you to be conscious of what it’s doing. That’s what makes it interesting.

A woman can genuinely feel love, tenderness and vulnerability while those same traits can still have an evolutionary function. Those things aren’t mutually exclusive.

And obviously men have their own strategies and ways of being deceptive. I’m not denying that. I’m saying you’re treating conscious intent as if it’s the only form of deception that matters.

Maybe my view is cynical. I’ll take that. But “you’re just scared of women” doesn’t really refute anything I said.

 

[LordFall]

50 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

You’re jumping straight to “you’re scared of intimacy” because it’s easier than actually addressing what I’m saying.

I’m not saying women consciously sit around trying to manipulate men. That’s not even the point. Evolution doesn’t need you to be conscious of what it’s doing. That’s what makes it interesting.

A woman can genuinely feel love, tenderness and vulnerability while those same traits can still have an evolutionary function. Those things aren’t mutually exclusive.

And obviously men have their own strategies and ways of being deceptive. I’m not denying that. I’m saying you’re treating conscious intent as if it’s the only form of deception that matters.

Maybe my view is cynical. I’ll take that. But “you’re just scared of women” doesn’t really refute anything I said.

 

You didn't provide any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back up what you're saying; just blanket statements. This combined with your post on struggling with porn led me to the conclusion that you are scared of intimacy; it's not a statement out of thin air.

Which one of your claims do you feel most strongly about? We can break it down and discuss it more in-depth. 

Edited 16 hours ago by LordFall

[TheGod]

6 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

What if behind the mask of beauty, fragility, and warmth lies something colder, more calculating, an evolutionary weapon finely tuned for survival. Something that’s not evil in the way we think of villains in a movie, but evil in the way nature itself is indifferent, ruthless, efficient, and dispassionate.

Now imagine the role of woman in this machine, not as a partner, not as a soulmate, but as nature’s bait. Through my lens women were not the better half. They were the seduction of the will itself. Their beauty, their voices, their tenderness, none of it was for love.

It was nature’s disguise.

The true function of woman is reproduction. And every aspect of her personality, psychology, and behavior was merely an adaptation to manipulate man into sacrificing himself for that goal.

That manipulation isn’t always conscious. That’s the terrifying part. It’s not that women wake up plotting to deceive. It’s that deception is baked into the code of their biology. The smiles, the tears, the helplessness, it all serves a purpose. And once you start to see it, you can’t unsee it.

The first illusion is love. Romantic love is the most dangerous lie of all. I believe love was nothing more than a trick played by the will to ensure reproduction.

The feelings we call love, especially the burning desire a man feels for a woman, are simply chemical traps. A man thinks he’s chasing happiness, intimacy, meaning. But what he’s actually chasing is his own extinction. He devotes his resources, his energy, his future for a fleeting illusion. And when that illusion fades, he’s left drained, bitter, and empty.

In terms of understanding this theory, look in nature. Nature uses them, chews them up, and throws them away once their reproductive value declines.

That’s why aging hits women differently. For men, age often brings power, wisdom, even attraction.

For women, age is a kind of death in life. Their social currency vanishes. Their beauty fades.

Their power dissolves. And beneath the surface, many of them know it.

That’s why so many try to hold on to youth through surgeries, makeup, filters, and denial. Because without beauty, their ability to manipulate the game collapses.

To remove the agency of man, we are all man, but wo-man wo = womb the key to keeping us hue-mans here.

Hints the reason of the original sin. We are not supposed to be here.

Cant say the bible never warned us

Proverbs 5:3-5
Proverbs 7:5-27
Proverbs 6:24-26
Revelation 17:1-6

 

 

Men are the ones who are self-deceived by their sexual instincts. The problem isn't about the women. Men are blinded by desire for sex. If you take a hot model 10/10 and put her in the room with an adult straight guy and ask him what he thinks about her and how he percieves her you can easily tell he's not being objective because sex drive overwhelms him.  You can easily prove it by putting the same woman in the room with a 9 year-old . He won't give a fuck about her. So yeah, it's not about women. 

[aurum]

You are going to have to heal this wounding eventually.

 

[Ulax]

"He who does not do cold approach will end up butthurt" - Ulax

Edited 12 hours ago by Ulax

[Leo Gura]

And men are not?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Framing deceitfulness as inherently part of the female nature, as opposed to just HUMAN nature ...

Is really hurtful. 

Why?

[Jordan of the Shire]

8 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

That’s why aging hits women differently. For men, age often brings power, wisdom, even attraction.

For women, age is a kind of death in life. Their social currency vanishes. Their beauty fades.

 

I know some elder woman and being around them is lovely, their energy is unique. It is something that younger women may not be able to replicate.

8 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

 

The true function of woman is reproduction. And every aspect of her personality, psychology, and behavior was merely an adaptation to manipulate man into sacrificing himself for that goal.

 

What makes you think that?

Edited 11 hours ago by Jordan of the Shire

[Jordan of the Shire]

40 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

And men are not?

interesting how you respond to this post. 

Rather than consider the forest, you look at what seems essential, a moral objection, and tackle it from this perspective, which seems like efficient angle to progress this talk.

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Jordan of the Shire

[Olaf]

@Monster Energy I would say woman are just more indirect or subtle then men, when men have a problem, they take the more aggressive direct route, which is just a different approach not more or less evil then the other. Men do so much evil shit, it is crazy, we kill more then any woman do, because we are just more practical and cold-blooded/logical. Which is why many men turn into psychos, narcissists etc. Woman just don't take that active direct route so quickly, they do, but not as much, they are more likely to hold a resentment forever, but that doesn't mean she will kill you with a knife. 

[Leo Gura]

Men lie like crazy just for sex.

Look in the mirror.

Edited 11 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Emerald]

10 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

Now imagine the role of woman in this machine, not as a partner, not as a soulmate, but as nature’s bait. Through my lens women were not the better half. They were the seduction of the will itself. Their beauty, their voices, their tenderness, none of it was for love.

It was nature’s disguise.

The true function of woman is reproduction. And every aspect of her personality, psychology, and behavior was merely an adaptation to manipulate man into sacrificing himself for that goal.

---

women, age

 

Before menses, girls cannot reproduce yet. When women hit menopause, they can't reproduce anymore.

And women have a very limited capacity to bear children... usually only preferring to have a few.

So, it really wouldn't make much sense that every aspect of a woman is to somehow manipulate men into reproducing with her... because her reproductive window only lasts like 20-25 years of her life.

And the other 50-60 years of the average woman's life, reproduction is not going to be relevant to her.

Instead, she will be more moved towards relationships for companionship and love... as the reproduction thing is a short-lived season that loses its relevance relatively early in adult life (around 35-40 years old)..

And your view frames women as fundamentally having men as the center of their own universe... and as the motivator for every action she takes and decision she makes.

But I doubt Granny Smith is cranking out well-crafted scarves in the knitting circle as some elaborate ploy to get men to reproduce with her.

So, there's just not a lot of logic to this post. it's all emotions.

And I can sense that you feel powerless to women... and that you feel controlled and manipulated by women's existence.

So, this feels like it's about framing your FEELINGS of powerlessness in relation to women's existence, as something that women are to blame for because it's "their nature to manipulate".

So, you write this post as a way to "shame the villains" that made you feel powerless... AND to try to make those pesky young women in their child-bearing years feel powerless by reminding them, "You will be old and powerless one day! And then, we men will have the last laugh!"

But the call is coming from inside the house. And these stories won't help you feel empowered. 

[LordFall]

Also bro perhaps you're simply experiencing sour grapes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes

We talked about this yesterday and you dismissed pickup as just another addiction. I think this post unearthed a deeper layer to your psychology though. It seems that you swung from hardcore porn addict to I guess a celibate nofapper? You didn't elaborate on your life but I assume you don't have a girlfriend? 

I was way more bitter against women before I slept with a bunch of them through game. I lost my virginity at 18 and in my mid teens the thought literally occurred to me that sex was a cosmic joke played against me and it wasn't really a real thing.

It sounds a bit silly but when you fuck a bunch of chicks and just lay down cuddle with them and engage in deep pillow talk then you realize you're not that different and their different life strategies are just a function of their social goals. Also when you start to build big things and put effort in your life it starts to become really obvious that the average man doesn't offer much value and so it becomes a bit normal to be aloof to them which might read as mean or almost evil from the point of view of the people that feel like they're being cold shouldered. 

Edited 8 hours ago by LordFall

[Monster Energy]

12 hours ago, LordFall said:

You didn't provide any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back up what you're saying; just blanket statements.

I’m not really trying to present this as a scientific claim with a bunch of statistics behind it. It’s a perspective I came to through my own experiences and by paying attention to patterns I kept seeing.

 

[Monster Energy]

9 hours ago, TheGod said:

Men are the ones who are self-deceived by their sexual instincts. The problem isn't about the women. Men are blinded by desire for sex. If you take a hot model 10/10 and put her in the room with an adult straight guy and ask him what he thinks about her and how he percieves her you can easily tell he's not being objective because sex drive overwhelms him.  You can easily prove it by putting the same woman in the room with a 9 year-old . He won't give a fuck about her. So yeah, it's not about women. 

Yeah, but that actually proves my point more than it disproves it. Men get blinded by desire, absolutely. A man sees a beautiful woman and suddenly his brain starts writing poetry for a biological agenda.

I’m not saying women are sitting there like cartoon villains plotting against men. I’m saying the instincts underneath the whole thing are far less romantic than we like to believe.

The scary part is that neither side has to be consciously manipulating anyone. Biology does the dirty work for us.

 

[Monster Energy]

8 hours ago, aurum said:

You are going to have to heal this wounding eventually.

 

Yes 

[Monster Energy]

8 hours ago, Ulax said:

"He who does not do cold approach will end up butthurt" - Ulax

“A woman’s test in life is material; a man’s test in life is a woman.”
— Dave Chappelle