Leo was right about Buddhism

[oOo]

I love coffee, but I get addicted to caffeine super quickly, and yet, my body is really sensitive to it so I can't sustain it.

Decaf.

There's some things you gotta go Buddhist on and other things, that's where you need Star Wars.

[Yimpa]

22 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

And obviously they don't talk about GOD.

And obviously psychedelics don’t talk about GOD. 

How is that possible?!

[Razard86]

The only way to God is to lose your mind literally. Meditation alone in most cases is going to be insufficient. If you want to reach God Consciousness you need a state change and the balls to literally be willing to go Insane while still being sane. You will not reach God Consciousness and keep your human mind in tact. Your sense of self must spill out into the world around you for you to access the mind of God, 

All the information you need has already been given, that Buddist thing is just going to make you a good meditator and that is it. I commune with God all the time, I hang out with Jesus, Shiva and Krishna and I'm not bragging at all, it is something you can do if you can escape the limited human mind and rest in Infinity. With that said, you will have to go through many rough patches along the path.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

On 23/08/2026 at 3:05 AM, Oppositionless said:

So I've been going to a Buddhist temple for 3 months now . First of all, the good. I like this place, I like these people , I'd rather have Buddhists as friends than most types of people . Meditation is also really good . If you have adhd or otherwise can't sit still and you go to one of these temples you'll be forced to sit still and meditate, that's good, it builds accountability.

But as for understanding of reality, I've been a little let down . There's lots of talk of oneness, of seeing through the ego, of no self. Sometimes if I'm lucky there will be a little blurb about everything being Mind, but unlike Leo who beats you over the head with it you get maybe a sentence or two about Consciousness, then it's right  back to practical stuff, I feel 90% of the talks given are self-help. How to be a better person, how to do the right thing , how to be more selfless.

 They don't really talk about Love, Intelligence, Beauty, Goodness. And obviously they don't talk about GOD.

I'll probably keep going, it's just a little disappointing.

They talked about GOD all along, but you didn't listen !

[Yimpa]

2 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

They talked about GOD all along, but you didn't listen !

Buddhists deny God.

[Willy Phallicus]

Buddhism got corrupted like everything else.

[Leo Gura]

The problem is Buddhists don't think. They discourage thinking about Reality. That is a mistake. Meditation is not enough to solve Reality.

Edited 10 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Someone here]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The problem is Buddhists don't think. They discourage thinking about Reality. That is a mistake. Meditation is not enough to solve Reality.

It may sound a little simplistic at first, but in the depth of meditation, there can be a shift in perspective where the sense that something needs to be fixed or figured out simply falls away. From the absolute perspective. You still have to feed your body obviously.
it’s not necessarily that life’s problems disappear, but that, for a moment, you experience things without the assumption that there is something to solve. It’s just another perspective on the same reality.

 

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Someone here said:

but in the depth of meditation, there can be a shift in perspective where the sense that something needs to be fixed or figured out simply falls away.

Of course that is the Buddhist position. But it is wrong. You will not meditate your way to understanding GOD.

Edited 9 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course that is the Buddhist position. But it is wrong. You will not meditate your way to understanding GOD.

It’s really two different directions, and it depends on what your goals and priorities are.

If the goal is to understand God intellectually, then thinking and deep contemplation are necessary. But if the goal is to experience peace, stillness, and bliss, then quieting the thinking mind through meditation may be more beneficial.

Neither approach is necessarily better..it depends on what someone is seeking . For example, my mother is at an age where intense intellectual exploration may not be as suitable or necessary for her. Meditation and cultivating a sense of inner peace might serve her much better.

 

[The Blind Sage]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course that is the Buddhist position. But it is wrong. You will not meditate your way to understanding GOD.

You're probably right. But I stopped looking at it as  'meditation vs. psychedelics'

Kriya yoga has rewired my receptivity to cannabis to an extraordinary degree (it now produces higher consciousness than shrooms or LSD)

I see it more as Kriya yoga/meditative practice enhances the depths you can explore with psychedlics.
I'm sure my view will mature over time but as of now this is reflective of my direct experience

[Oppositionless]

58 minutes ago, The Blind Sage said:

You're probably right. But I stopped looking at it as  'meditation vs. psychedelics'
 

To be fair I don't think you can trip your way to understanding God either. I took Leo's comment as meaning you can't meditate (or trip) and understand God without doing some thinking.

Now, the Buddhists do understand that thinking can't be all you do. 
I see three pillars 

-contemplation / thinking 

-daily meditation 

-psychedelic breakthroughs

Don't forget that lots of people trip every year. Many of them have a cool experience, but that's just it, a cool experience.

Edited 7 hours ago by Oppositionless

[cetus]

 My understanding is Buddhists meditate because a calm mind is fertile ground for insights to arise.

They also practice contemplation which is a form of meditative thinking. (yoniso manasikara)

 

[Davino]

You can’t get blood from a stone.

Learn from what each person is best at.

[Terell Kirby]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You will not meditate your way to understanding GOD.

Seems a fair assumption that God cannot be understood properly by just shutting off the Mind. But you can contemplate and use psychs to get there. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[JoshB]

4 hours ago, Davino said:

You can’t get blood from a stone.

Learn from what each person is best at.

Lol

[Leo Gura]

Understanding God requires very serious questioning of all human teachings and ideas. Not just blindly following one path.

[Lucasxp64]

Within Buddhism they sort of acknowledge a lot of mystical experiences that don't have much to do with the path to the cessation of suffering, just like in Christianity that they have all kinds of ideas about miracles, demons and angels, etc.

But we know that their goal is none of those things, they are just part of their universe.

I think this is what can make religions have a certain flavor of what is possible within their universe, meanwhile others might not even register something as plausible.

Like focusing at breaking down your field of consciousness is an extremely alien idea to Christianity, meanwhile within Buddhism it's close to the techniques they use to achieve their goals.

So to them, acknowledgement of the truth of the ego as a construct is absolutely bizarre, because they think your soul is this indivisible entity that was spawn once in your birth (or as a fetus, or whatever, even before your dad's sperm entered your mom's egg, because some are against using condoms).

And then Christian's use that "eternal soul" idea to peddle stuff like that you're going to eternal suffering in hell or will be reborn back to earth once a special day comes and the sinners won't get eternal pleasure, and that will depend on your moral following of Jesus teachings.

Within Buddhism the idea of rebirth is more fluid so it leads to other secondary conclusions, like the mind being reborn due to desire from moment to moment, or you being reborn as a shit eating fly if you are too obsessed with your girlfriend or wife in the moment of your death because you want to be close to her at any cost lol. But also you can be reborn as a higher being like some alien that feels a thousand orgasms per second, but even then you're not exactly enlightened. 

Edited 48 minutes ago by Lucasxp64

[Inliytened1]

Buddhism got the no self right.  I remember when i had the no self enlightenment.  I remember looking up buddhism and no self, and couldn't beleive it.  Judaism and christianity missed it.