Majed

I don't understand how we can be against israel.

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All people deserve their nations, including jewish people who deserve their jewish state. This is the foundation of zionism. How can we be against it ? Like the more i research it, the more of a zionist i become. 

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They could have opened home in fucking Australia.
Instead they went to exchange smoke with the Muslims in middle east. Who didn't take it well as history tells.
 

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The best way to look at the conflict is through a stage yellow lens I think. What if both Isreal and Palestine are right and both are wrong too? Choosing a side here is impossible and it is actually counterproductive. We have to be comfortable holding opposing views on our heads. 

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@Stick No, palestine is their original indigenous homeland, not australia. Plus there was always a jewish presence in palestine since thousands of years. 

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@enchanted Now you're not talking about israel and jewish people but about 195 recognized states across the world. 

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Modern zionism is ethnic cleansing of palestinians, they can give it a different description so it sounds nicer.

You got bombed because of “national security” but it’s really American imperalism

You got bombed because of Zionism, but it’s really ethnic cleansing 

Two sentences, two “safety movements”, two lies that sound the same.

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@MarkKol Develop your point. How is a country defending itself against terrorists, ethnic cleansing ?

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Just now, Majed said:

@MarkKol Develop your point. How is a country defending itself against terrorists, ethnic cleansing ?

Israel was founded by terrorism and is still a terrorist nation, just not against the west.

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Just because your ancestors lived in a house 2000 years ago doesn’t give you the right to kick out the family that has been living there for 1400 years. 
 

The land that the modern state of Israel is built off hasn’t been Jewish longer than Turkey has been Turkish (1071 AD) or Hungary has been Hungarian (900 AD), yet no one believes those countries should be handed back to the “original owners.”

No one is saying Jews don’t have the right to live in peace on this earth but trying to do so at the expense of the native population just doesn’t make sense with our modern understanding of self-determination, human rights, etc.

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