My New Years Resolution, Leave Actualized.org!

[Thought Art]

Only place better than the forum for personal development is GrowthDay. It’s pretty driven there and everyone is supportive, professional and working toward daily growth. I am not promoting it but people should be aware there are really great personal development communities like what Brendon Burchard is building which is very good and more focused. 
 

The depths and hands off approach and the casual nature of the forum should be understood. Most of your personal development won’t happen here.

Edited 8 hours ago by Thought Art

[RisingLane]

21 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

What about Pizza Thursdays?

At least someone gets what it’s all about.

[integration journey]

33 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

What about Pizza Thursdays?

I have been missing that one a lot lately. How was the taco Tuesday?

[UnbornTao]

9 minutes ago, integration journey said:

I have been missing that one a lot lately. How was the taco Tuesday?

Not bad, but it isn't as great as Quesadilla Sundays.

[Hojo]

@Ishanga This is called karma. Leave come back leave come back. You aren't learning something. Are you leaving for the same reason you left last time? Then come back for the same reason.

Edited 7 hours ago by Hojo

[Breakingthewall]

@Ishanga

The point of spirituality is to place yourself in an enlightened perspective. You already know that this has a large energetic component; it's not something conceptual. It requires polishing the experience, the now, from all the human mire. This, as you also know, is extremely difficult. The human mire traps you one way or another. You think you're free of it, only to realize you're swimming in it.

Gurus are human,  as expected, they have a very serious narcissistic component. That's why they work as gurus. It's an extremely complicated issue that isn't really defined. Non-duality wallows in human conceptual muck, neo-Advaita is narcissism in great part, Mooji, Adyashanti, Ramana present enlightenment as being "the consciousness". it's all confusing, imprecise, still to be defined.

So, this forum is the same as any spiritual community: a group of people who want to find a solution to suffering and death, and they cling to their beliefs. Entering into debate under these conditions is always tense. The idea is to try to find a way to make it somewhat less tense. It's not easy. Be patient and that's it. Lack is everywhere, that's human condition. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Terell Kirby]

2 hours ago, Ishanga said:

And Conflict is not natural, conflict is ego,

Quite the opposite. There’s nothing natural about harmony at all- social environments have to be configured in such a way where harmonious relations between humans can be facilitated.

Also- harmony itself not an absolute good. Harmonious groups delude themselves about all sorts of things. At least a forum space like this allows us to challenge perspectives and prevent echo chambers and paradigm lock. It would be wise to drop the fantasy of harmony being an absolute good altogether.

ps. It’s funny how ppl complain about the forum but don’t take any action to leave or engage with it in a way that they feel will elevate it. It’s like the psychology grad who sits on ass all day complaining about to corporations and the economy yet refuses to apply for a job or start a business of his own

Edited 6 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Good morning @Ishanga! 

I recall clashing with you a few times when I first noticed a post like this from you, on these forums. 

I respect you a lot, and you always have many interesting views to add. Most of your spirituality crosses over with what other users and masters say - it is in the translating that many cannot see the overlap. 

This theme of rejecting the forum has been a constant thing for you. My questions for you when you leave would be:

What draws you back here, again and again? It is clearly, to me, not desperation for connection or community. 

You often inject, what I perceive, feeling wise (from your posts, not your words); disgust. Contempt. Like the forum is a bad smell. Do you think this is worth thinking about and contemplating? 

If you are judging this place so harshly, there is something happening here that you feel you must not have, or do. Otherwise, you would not feel so okay to post along these themes. Perhaps you feel you do not have ego like those here? If you thought you had this, you wouldn't judge the forum so much because you would realise you are judging yourself as 'low consciousness'. And it would feel quite bad think that way about ourselves.

I witness you engaging in egoic battles all over the forum - and here, this is my experience of you speaking. I am not judging you, because I engage in this manner also. 

But I think the forum is representing parts of yourself you have not claimed, so you feel okay rejecting it. 

Even this post is begging for engagement. 

If I were in your position, as is my typical way, I would simply disappear. No goodbye. You acknowledge there must be some addictive quality to this place - because you feel you need to post for personal accountability; but you have full sovereignty. 

I do notice you have personal issues with Leo - perhaps he represents ego which is unclaimed in you? Not sure. 

In any event, I do not mean this as an attack. Merely my observations looking at patterns of posting. And I suppose this could all be projection - because I have been through exactly the above. Many times, repeatedly. 

I do note that while on this forum everyone argues, clashes and has their beliefs challenged - you will always see us all laughing at each other within a post or two. Or in the next thread. Or agreeing in a seperate subsection. But then, laughter follows. I don't see this as much with you. You appear to not have fun here in this way. Simply an observation. 

I digress a a bit here... I mean no attack at all. I just feel maybe this might help with thinking on your experience here. Feel free to disregard! 

I think you should take a big break. @CARDOZZO did just that and had some good words.

Maybe you will return, maybe not. 

But overall, I wish you peace, happiness and joy in your growth and seeking ❤️

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[AION]

“I’m leaving right now”

 

”ok”

 

”don’t stop me. I’m really leaving” 

 

[Leo Gura]

This place is just the organic sum of all the cats who roam here.

Many of ya'll have your weird, quirky points of view. That's what diversity entails.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This place is just the organic sum of all the cats who roam here.

Many of ya'll have your weird, quirky points of view. That's what diversity entails.

🎯🧶

It has to be so, it couldn't be any other way. Fluid evolution. I am grateful you created this space !

 (⁠.⁠ ⁠❛⁠ ⁠ᴗ⁠ ⁠❛⁠.⁠)

[Joseph Maynor]

@Ishanga  What would you like to be working on more, ideally, in a community like this or see others working on?