My New Years Resolution, Leave Actualized.org!

[Ishanga]

They say New Years Resolutions don't work, but its good advice to set intentions...

This place is not so healthy for Me, its not a place of Actualization imo, its a place of sharing and conflict and huge huge Egos, only a few ppl here are on a level of realization that I can respect, the rest are either playing ego games or using Spirituality as Entertainment and crave Drama more than Truth, I don't have the time or patients to deal with ppl like that, I still have plenty to work on myself, the constant triggering this place gives Me does not help in anyway!

I share this because this place is supposed to be above all of this, and maybe this is a wake up call for those under the illusion that it is a place of Actualization and Higher Consciousness, it is not, but it could have been.. Leo himself imo is full of conflict it seems, how could someone that is supposedly in a state of high level Consciousness (he claims to be the most Conscious, if that is not a sign of a huge Ego, I don't know what is) be constantly grumpy and at times ignoring the very ppl that provide him and audience and income,, 

If one starts something like this, an online presence via videos and forums then you better be available to the public, he is in many ways but is very constrained in his approach and argumentative lots of the time, it boggles my mind how this is so, and his ability to pick apart anyone the deviates from his approach is out of this world, one day he will say he not perfect and capable of making a mistake then the next day he's the most critical critic of another's approach lol, unbelievable!

So with this, and stating it publicly on this forum this will give me a sense of pressure to stick to my word, so that is my intention..

If you are reading this, look elsewhere for Advice, there are much more caring and giving communities out there that will actually listen to what YOU are saying and your personal concerns, vs. telling You You are Wrong and then berating You more for it!

To those that are actually on the path of Truth and living it somewhat, I think I know who You are, go elsewhere as well, this place will take all of that progression and realization away from You if Your here too much, I've honestly tried to share what I think works, for sure some will disagree, I have no problems with that, but the egoic attacks are too frequent to maintain any sort of interest for me to share anymore sad to say!!

[CARDOZZO]

You need a break. I did a 4 months break from the forum, it helps a lot. 

[Leo Gura]

You expect a group of humans with diverse perspectives to not argue?

Surely you're kidding.

You guys want this place to not be a cult, but when you actually get that, you complain.

I do not control anyone here.

This place is hearding cats.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[theleelajoker]

27 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

You need a break. I did a 4 months break from the forum, it helps a lot. 

+1

Similar experience for me.

[Ishanga]

26 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

You need a break. I did a 4 months break from the forum, it helps a lot. 

Yes, I've tried some breaks before, only to come back with the same ole same... I'm on here now allot b/c I'm on sick leave from work, so I like to discuss these topics with likeminded individuals, healthy debate is good for sure, not egoic ones...Normally when I'm working full time hours I'm on here maybe an hour a day, lately its too much...

[Thought Art]

@Ishanga It’s a personal development forum. Which, isn’t that toxic. It was way worse years ago. 
 

Also, who are you to tell others what to do? Do you own truth seeking? Get real.

I think a lot of the conflict is in your head man. 
 

Conflict though is normal and natural in a non-confomist setting with people at various levels of development and who have different beliefs and preferences.

Edited 3 hours ago by Thought Art

[integration journey]

What’s the alternative? Even with its flaws, this place is better than scrolling through Facebook and Instagram 

Edited 3 hours ago by integration journey

[Ishanga]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You expect a group of humans with diverse perspectives to not argue?

Surely you're kidding.

You guys want this place to not be a cult, but when you actually get that, you complain.

I do not control anyone here.

I expect respectful debate and at times disagreement for sure, not egoic ones, not ideologues telling me out right I don't know what I am talking about, I've been on this path since 2009 and put tons of work and effort in, yeah I'm primarily into Sadhguru's work, but I've researched many approaches.. This happened to me too when on Martial Arts forums, ppl with 2 or 3 yrs of experience telling me I know nothing when I have 15+yrs of intense work and experience under my belt, it stupid..

I don't expect You to control anyone, this is a Spirituality forum, ppl here are interested in finding out what life is about, at the very least they should know their ego identifications and triggers allot more shouldn't they?  People here are redefining words to support their ideological identifications, that is just messed up, as well as many other things that are found on regular forums where finding life meaning is not the focus, I get that sort of behavior there but not here...

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Ishanga It’s a personal development forum. Which, isn’t that toxic. It was way worse years ago. 
 

Also, who are you to tell others what to do? Do you own truth seeking? Get real.

I think a lot of the conflict is in your head man. 
 

Conflict though is normal and natural in a non-confomist setting with people at various levels of development and who have different beliefs and preferences.

Umm this is sort of what I am talking about! I am not telling anyone what to do, I just share my thoughts and methods and have a debate, so in that context I don't know what You are talking about..

And Conflict is not natural, conflict is ego, I am right you are wrong, that is one of the problems in the world, just b/c everyone is egoic doesn't mean its normal, once You normalize crazy then that is where the problem arises... 

If your into Spirituality then belief's should not be a part of your vocabulary, belief is thinking you know when you do not know, that is Religion, Spirituality is I do not know but I want to know, so You seek to know experientially... I know I have 5 fingers on both hands, its not a belief so know one can say otherwise...

[Ishanga]

10 minutes ago, integration journey said:

What’s the alternative? Even with its flaws, this place is better than scrolling through Facebook and Instagram 

I don't scroll thru either.. We have to find hobbies and other such things that take us out of the internet all together, if it was spring or summer I would be outside much more, right now its winter and sucks outside lol!! I go to the gym maybe 3 times a week but I'm in my 50's now and already went thru the gym phase of my life, its too much work lol...

I'm trying to start a martial arts community and customer base, as well as a life coaching one too, but its hard nowadays unless you invest allot of $$ for ads which I don't have right now!!

Edited 2 hours ago by Ishanga

[CARDOZZO]

2 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Yes, I've tried some breaks before, only to come back with the same ole same... I'm on here now allot b/c I'm on sick leave from work, so I like to discuss these topics with likeminded individuals, healthy debate is good for sure, not egoic ones...Normally when I'm working full time hours I'm on here maybe an hour a day, lately its too much...

I got you. On this 4 months break, I did a lot of contemplation on why Leo's work is important. I would say that you have to create YOUR OWN WAY of relating to Leo (as a person) and Leo's work (Videos, Blog Posts, Advice). Leo is a pointer, a intellectual/spiritual being to point out things. Is this true? I don't know - check for yourself. Even if he tells you that it is TRUE, what is it for? Good? Bad? 

Becoming cristal clear on what you REALLY want from the forum/videos is extremely underrated. Only you can say what you really want.

You are the supreme authority of your being/mind/spirit.

Edited 58 minutes ago by CARDOZZO

[OBEler]

@Ishanga  I hope you get some first non ordinary states of consciousness and get your first psychedelic experiences. It really opens you up. I was like you before that. 

[Davino]

@Ishanga Wishing you the best in your next phase of life!❤️

[Yimpa]

32 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

I'm on here now allot b/c I'm on sick leave from work, so I like to discuss these topics with likeminded individuals, healthy debate is good for sure, not egoic ones...

You are sick but want healthy. How can this be?

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

not egoic ones, not ideologues

That's the human condition.

Any community will have that.

[Rigel]

You guys are making such a big deal out of this place😂 chill

You can leave that’s also chill. 
 

The drama is never ending!

[Thought Art]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

To those that are actually on the path of Truth and living it somewhat, I think I know who You are, go elsewhere as well, this place will take all of that progression and realization away from You if Your here too much,

I was referring to this.

[Thought Art]

@Ishanga I don’t know man. You have your own version of spirituality and your own unique world view. We all do here. 
 

I’d say… is conflict natural? Seems so as it’s everywhere even in plants. Also it can be healthy. Regardless of « ego » humans have limited data sets which differ from one another and capacity for communication especially on a casual forum. So conflict is natural. 
 

What would a healthy non-égoïc debate look like? Isn’t a debate inherently a conflict? 
 

Alex Hormozi’s 100 million dollar series is pretty cheap and can teach you about how to get leads for you martial arts stuff. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Thought Art

[Joseph Maynor]

Personally, I love it here now.  People laugh together mostly instead of at each other, which I appreciate. 

[UnbornTao]

What about Pizza Thursdays?