Can "stupid" pursue awakening?

[Eskilon]

28 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Gotta drop the belief in psychedelics as a means to increased consciousness, too.

Gotta drop the belief that it doesnt increase consciousness.

Edited 2 hours ago by Eskilon

[nerdspeak]

58 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes.

However, low development means it will easily get misinterpreted as some belief system or bias one holds, like a Christian seeing Jesus.

Low dev minds tend to have many conformist beliefs which will cloud the psychedelic experience.

Are you intelligent enough to drop all your beliefs? If you are, then you are smart enough for this work.

I always get Catholic imagery at the beginning of my trips. Virgin Mary, stigmata, etc. My friend who is Japanese gets lots of sacred geometry. 

I guess the trick is not seeing it as evidence these things have any metaphysical truth.

 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, nerdspeak said:

I guess the trick is not seeing it as evidence these things have any metaphysical truth.

It is Truth. The Truth of Infinite Imagination.

[UnbornTao]

9 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Gotta drop the belief that it doesnt increase consciousness.

Belief?

[Eskilon]

2 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Belief?

Yes. It does increase consciousness. Maybe not for you if you are those 0000.1% that it doesnt change anything, but otherwise it does.

[Nemra]

@nerdspeak, what do you think is the reason for seeing those images?

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@nerdspeak, what do you think is the reason for seeing those images?

God will speak you using whatever symbols your mind relates to best.

If you love dicks, God will appear to you as a dick.

God is your own mind grasping itself. So of course it will use whatever symbols it knows best.

You are self-representing yourself to yourself.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[UnbornTao]

19 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

Yes. It does increase consciousness. Maybe not for you if you are those 0000.1% that it doesnt change anything, but otherwise it does.

Okay, we have a different notion of what it means to increase consciousness.

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, my sense phenomena get weird when I start tripping, e.g., geometrical shapes form that I couldn't even imagine, melting sensations, etc.

Is it possible that my mind likes or relates to the idea of weirdness, and then uses that to grasp itself?

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

If you love dicks, God will appear to you as a dick.

Edited 1 hour ago by Nemra

[Terell Kirby]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Are you intelligent enough to drop all your beliefs?

Through this work- I have come to appreciate the intelligence behind the self deception required to hold a belief system.

God constructs belief system for a specific purpose, similar to dressing up in a costume for Halloween. 

[nerdspeak]

@Nemra I think it’s like Leo said.
 

I will add that the visuals seem to echo your early childhood cultural and religious indoctrination in most cases. I went to Catholic kindergarten and got a lot of this imagery; my Japanese friend’s parents took him to esoteric Buddhist temples on Mount Koya in Japan. Some people claim it’s even genetic (non-practicing Jews who never went to synagogue getting lots of kabbalistic imagery) but idk about that, alternative explanations (like just knowing you are Jewish is probably enough to trigger that imagery).

Edited 58 minutes ago by nerdspeak

[Nemra]

@nerdspeak, maybe my kindergarten wasn't as religious as yours. Although, I attended church.

[Yimpa]

When the nerds peak, they win a brilliancy prize.