Can "stupid" pursue awakening?

[UnbornTao]

7 hours ago, Hello1 said:

@UnbornTao My name is Martina I am from Slovakia, however its annoying what you guys write because this thread is about a different topic. But at least you make it "hot" by adding comments heh

I see, thank you for letting me know. 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, the level of your cognitive development will affect your awakenings and how you understand them, right?

It seems that people who are unaware of their cognitive development don't see how much they are limiting their awakenings.

Yes!

People have no clue how much depth and richness to God they are missing. The depth is staggering. The depth is not described by any spiritual teacher or teaching.

Shallow levels of Awakening are very easy. Deep levels require decades of cognitive work.

Edited 2 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, back then, I couldn't make sense how a Christian or any religious person could have an awakening.

I have been treating the cognitive dimension as a given, which made me assume that people at a very low cognitive level could not have an awakening, because their explanations weren't as deep and direct as your explanation, which is not to say that they know what they are talking about or actually have had awakenings.

The self-limitation is astounding!

This is really mind opening and is giving me goosebumps.

[UnbornTao]

@Hello1 If we define awakening as becoming conscious of the nature of one's 'true' self and/or existence, then it is already accesible to anyone. It's a possibility that is not subject to intellectual prowess or any other relative consideration - because it isn't elsewhere. It is already the truth of your nature, right now, whatever that may be. The only requirement is grasping this nature in a direct fashion.

It's likely that we often hold these concepts idealistically, believing they require a specific way of "being" or living.

For example, Eckhart Tolle reportedly had an insight or breakthrough of some kind while going through a depressive phase of his life, if I recall. We might believe that states such as relaxation, happiness, or being in love help when it comes to becoming conscious, but they are simply experiences. You can have an enlightenment while distracted, bored, or apathetic. Metaphorically, we could say that the truth doesn't care what state you're in.

Edited 19 minutes ago by UnbornTao

[Breakingthewall]

@Hello1

16 hours ago, Hello1 said:

 

Anyone who's mentally retarded could be fully awake. It's a matter of aligned energy. The problem is if you're not awake and you want to be because you've heard about it, as is usually the case. Then you have to be quite intelligent to understand how you're closing the door. You don't need to be an expert in anything, but you do need to be astute enough to see through the ego's deceptions.

[Hello1]

@Breakingthewall yeah this makes sense