What is the thing you became directly conscious of that is usually taken as a belief?

[thierry]

I was curious about this question:

What is something you have directly experienced, something you know from firsthand insight, that most(or some) people only believe conceptually? How does direct experience of it differ from merely believing it?

Or, alternatively: what is something most people consider true that you’ve realized, through direct experience, is not actually true?

 

[Inliytened1]

@thierry God.

[Hojo]

That you cant die, you just go into 0 D. AKA Shiva.

Edited November 29 by Hojo

[Yimpa]

You don’t exist is a common misconception. Actually, Existence is all that exists and it is boundless.

[cetus]

On 11/28/2025 at 11:40 PM, thierry said:

How does direct experience of it differ from merely believing it?

Direct experience is like a flame that can never be extinguished.

[UnbornTao]

Does that really matter? Become conscious of the truth for yourself. Short of that, anything you or anyone else has is just a belief, conclusion, or guess - a kind of faith, or at best the notion of an unrealized possibility that is, by definition, unknown - until you get it for yourself. 

[Sugarcoat]

Don’t tell your doctor, they’ll prescribe anti psychotics (that won’t help)

[Mellowmarsh]

On 29/11/2025 at 4:40 AM, thierry said:

What is something you have directly experienced, something you know from firsthand insight

Being dead. 

[UnbornTao]

12 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Don’t tell your doctor, they’ll prescribe anti psychotics (that won’t help)

Tell them what - and why?

Edited Thursday at 06:44 PM by UnbornTao

[Sugarcoat]

3 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Tell them what - and why?

For example your deepest thoughts about how you think your brain works and thinking your brain is abnormally wired . I told them that because I had some problems so I thought “well might as well try psychiatry I won’t loose anything “ 

It connects to the post in the sense that, the poster asked “what are you directly conscious of”, and for me in the past years I feel , not only conscious of my own mind but it’s like I can sense certain processes in my brain so the science start making sense 

[Schizophonia]

@Sugarcoat You had to listen to Dr Valentin 

[UnbornTao]

47 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

For example your deepest thoughts about how you think your brain works and thinking your brain is abnormally wired . I told them that because I had some problems so I thought “well might as well try psychiatry I won’t loose anything “ 

It connects to the post in the sense that, the poster asked “what are you directly conscious of”, and for me in the past years I feel , not only conscious of my own mind but it’s like I can sense certain processes in my brain so the science start making sense 

Okey dokey.

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Okey dokey.

When you give up replying to her oddness 😂😂

[UnbornTao]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

When you give up replying to her oddness 😂😂

[Aaron p]

On 29/11/2025 at 4:40 AM, thierry said:

Or, alternatively: what is something most people consider true that you’ve realized, through direct experience, is not actually true?

Mostly the waiting room with Dimitri, and time expansion. Never experienced it, don't expect to. People talk about living alternate lives for years then coming back. As far as my experience goes, that's a load of horse.

Also, that's psychedelics are good under all circumstances. What I've realised about them is that if you don't have your life together and your mind established, it can have really destructive effects. Can still produce necessary insane strength and insight, but at much greater suffering. 

 

Also I'm starting to get a serious experiential taste that humanity is more advanced than we think in certain remits (tech) (mostly hidden) and far, far, farrrrrrrr less advanced than we think in others. Also the strangeness of the universe, starting to get a flavour for that. Things like black holes, physics, quantum physics, in the natural realm, you can start to recognise that the idea that you know what's going on, is incorrect.

 

You get little experiential tastes here and there and the only question is...if these are just little slices, I wonder how large the entire cake is 🍰

 

Also religion is simultaneously great for helping people at low levels of development but has collosal flaws. Essentially that it's methods are legit/real but they're too disjointed, symbolic and poetically indirect to provide transformation massive enough to where manual effort is no longer required. You can tell how much manual effort is involved. Feeling like your manually pushing your car up a 45° hill to get to god is a distinct religious factor I remember. 

On 29/11/2025 at 4:40 AM, thierry said:

I was curious about this question:

What is something you have directly experienced, something you know from firsthand insight, that most(or some) people only believe conceptually? How does direct experience of it differ from merely believing it?

Experientially. God's voice is discernable, distinct, trustworthy and extremely motherfucking powerful.

Edited Monday at 03:22 PM by Aaron p

[tuku747]

The Net of Indra. All forms are reflected in, contained within, and emanating from all forms. Every atom is a Universe. You contain your own Universe within you. As time goes on you will become more and more aware that you are the God of your own unique Universe. 

[Oppositionless]

Solipsism.

Others might exist but they independently generate their own physical universe . 
 

Mind at large , the nondual belief of Bernardo Kastrup, is an illusion. Only your mind exists , you can't combine two perspectives into an amorphous blob, you can only realize that you're already one.

Edited 8 hours ago by Oppositionless

[Jannes]

That we imagine death. Well not fully I think but I became conscious of many of the minds tricks and story it invents about death which are a joke.

That reality is made out of nothing. The most solid "something" sensation is completly hollow. 

I need to trip more.