John Anthony's channel taken down

[El Rizzidente]

I know this hits close to Leo, as he was once good buddies with John...... no but seriously I know he's not the best person in the world, but his pickup content was some of the only honest stuff you could find on Youtube. No woowoo nonsense you'd see from guys like RSD, no hokey london daygame shit, it was just straight up no nonsense advice- approach without hestitation, gather logistics, banter with her naturally, sexualize the convo, and run that an X number of times to get the desired results you want. 

Point is is that there is so much garbage on Youtube for pickup and dating advice that canceling a guy even as morally questionable as John is a blow to the desexualized men out there (me included) who are going thru possibly the worst dating crisis they've ever had to go thru.

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, El Rizzidente said:

he was once good buddies with John

I was never good buddies with him.

I knew him and I knew he was a sociopath. His friends are in prison for rape and he was banned from the city of Las Vegas.

Do you understand how bad you gotta be to be banned from the entire city of Vegas?

Edited 16 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I was never good buddies with him.

I knew him and I knew he was a sociopath. His friends are in prison for rape and he was banned from the city of Las Vegas.

Do you understand how bad you gotta be to be banned from the entire city of Vegas?

and yet half of the people in the country were willing to tolerate Trump being president again and not be held accountable for any of his crimes.....

This world is so fucked up.

[AION]

what is the reason?

[Emerald]

I know it's not nice to appearance shame but I feel like it should be said... a lot of guys who are popular pick-up artist coaches are very unattractive. I'm bringing it up because I find it ironic that the guys who teach men how to be attractive are usually not attractive themselves.

And I just looked up the John Anthony guy just now, and I remember seeing some images or video of him before. And he seemed to have some insecure body language And I remember thinking, "It just goes to show you that a man doesn't need to be even in the slightest bit attractive (physically or personality-wise) to have a lot of sex. He just has to have audacity."

Maybe that's the appeal of characters like him, that Owen guy, and Andrew Tate to the target audience. They're not attractive guys... and yet they still get laid a lot. 

That way, the men they're marketing to who are feeling unattractive and lonely who are looking up dating advice can look at them and go, "You know what. If these uggos can get laid, so can I."

And that's correct. Getting laid isn't really about being attractive or even about developing an attractive personality. Attractiveness helps, but it's not necessary. It's really about the audacity to keep approaching.

But it's kind of surreal from the female perspective how there are SO MANY unattractive men that are the gurus in the field of "attracting women" or who are known as 'attractive male role models'

Like, all I see when I look at Andrew Tate is an anthropomorphized rat with a gym body, an annoying personality, and annoying speech patterns. 

And I was musing recently about a hypothetical female equivalent of Andrew Tate giving a ton of horrible dating advice to women and women eating it up en masse and getting super obsessed with this ugly lady and her terrible dating advice.

And I laughed to myself about that hypothetical situation.

She'd have a decent body but a rat-face. And she'd dress in ways that most men don't find attractive, but that women believe that men find attractive. And she'd give terrible advice that would be very repellant and unattractive to the majority of men... but that insecure men with savior complexes would be like, "I can fix her!"

And she'd show the more attractive insecure men with savior complexes as proof that her methods work and that she is a very desirable woman in the eyes of men. 

And then men would be like, "That's not what we're attracted to."

And then, the women would be like "Queen Andrea Tate says never ask a fish how to catch it. And she's obviously VERY successful with men. Men just don't like to reveal that that's really what they're into because it's difficult for them to admit what they really want."

Then, there would be tons of women actively making themselves less attractive and believing that they're making themselves more attractive. And they would be getting some men to sleep with them because they'd be being more brazen and approaching a bunch of guys... and they'd take that as confirmation that Andrea Tate is as attractive to men as she says she is. 

And it would become this movement of women becoming more and more repellant as individuals.

Then, there would be a female loneliness crisis precipitated by the influence of this kind of propaganda and the online echo chambers around it. And Andrea Tate and the other female dating experts that look like thumbs and act like bitches would be like, "That's because men aren't men anymore. Now-a-days men are insufficiently Masculine because of modern brainwashing. So, they're avoiding what they naturally like (which is the repellant behavior)."

It's actually genuinely hilarious to imagine things flipped around because of the absurdity of it.

But I digress. I just find it very interesting and ironic that many of the guys who teach other guys how to be more attractive aren't themselves attractive. They just get laid a lot... and that's a very different skillset.

Edited 14 hours ago by Emerald

[Raze]

Now the first thing that comes up when you search him are the videos exposing him, good.
 

 

 

 

I found his second channel and plan to report it for ban evasion. 

Now that wheat waffles retired, fresh and fit moved to politics, and John is gone maybe we can come out of the YouTube male dating advice dark age when it was dominated by these three toxic sludges.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Raze

[Miguel1]

@Emerald

Unconscious behaviour attracts unconscious people. Conscious behaviour works as a mirror and no person wants to see how much of a devil they are. Having integrous and truthful conversations with women is the surest way to lose them. The more you feed them fantasies, the better.

Trust me, you aint gettig laid a lot if you behave very consciously and mature, even if you are physically attractive. I am speaking from a ton of personal experience.

Also, there’s a lot of good looking extroverts teaching dating out there. I find that more common (and more of a true issue), unless you are talking about behavioural attractiveness in which case toxic unconscious behaviour is a turn off for a conscious woman like you but a big turn on for majority of women.

That’s the black pill reality of dating.

I get almost proportionally better results with women, the more unconscious I behave. It is sickening, and heart breaking. And probably not something I am willing to put up with for long anymore. 

[AION]

2 hours ago, Emerald said:

I know it's not nice to appearance shame but I feel like it should be said... a lot of guys who are popular pick-up artist coaches are very unattractive. I'm bringing it up because I find it ironic that the guys who teach men how to be attractive are usually not attractive themselves.

And I just looked up the John Anthony guy just now, and I remember seeing some images or video of him before. And he seemed to have some insecure body language And I remember thinking, "It just goes to show you that a man doesn't need to be even in the slightest bit attractive (physically or personality-wise) to have a lot of sex. He just has to have audacity."

Maybe that's the appeal of characters like him, that Owen guy, and Andrew Tate to the target audience. They're not attractive guys... and yet they still get laid a lot. 

That way, the men they're marketing to who are feeling unattractive and lonely who are looking up dating advice can look at them and go, "You know what. If these uggos can get laid, so can I."

And that's correct. Getting laid isn't really about being attractive or even about developing an attractive personality. Attractiveness helps, but it's not necessary. It's really about the audacity to keep approaching.

But it's kind of surreal from the female perspective how there are SO MANY unattractive men that are the gurus in the field of "attracting women" or who are known as 'attractive male role models'

Like, all I see when I look at Andrew Tate is an anthropomorphized rat with a gym body, an annoying personality, and annoying speech patterns. 

And I was musing recently about a hypothetical female equivalent of Andrew Tate giving a ton of horrible dating advice to women and women eating it up en masse and getting super obsessed with this ugly lady and her terrible dating advice.

And I laughed to myself about that hypothetical situation.

She'd have a decent body but a rat-face. And she'd dress in ways that most men don't find attractive, but that women believe that men find attractive. And she'd give terrible advice that would be very repellant and unattractive to the majority of men... but that insecure men with savior complexes would be like, "I can fix her!"

And she'd show the more attractive insecure men with savior complexes as proof that her methods work and that she is a very desirable woman in the eyes of men. 

And then men would be like, "That's not what we're attracted to."

And then, the women would be like "Queen Andrea Tate says never ask a fish how to catch it. And she's obviously VERY successful with men. Men just don't like to reveal that that's really what they're into because it's difficult for them to admit what they really want."

Then, there would be tons of women actively making themselves less attractive and believing that they're making themselves more attractive. And they would be getting some men to sleep with them because they'd be being more brazen and approaching a bunch of guys... and they'd take that as confirmation that Andrea Tate is as attractive to men as she says she is. 

And it would become this movement of women becoming more and more repellant as individuals.

Then, there would be a female loneliness crisis precipitated by the influence of this kind of propaganda and the online echo chambers around it. And Andrea Tate and the other female dating experts that look like thumbs and act like bitches would be like, "That's because men aren't men anymore. Now-a-days men are insufficiently Masculine because of modern brainwashing. So, they're avoiding what they naturally like (which is the repellant behavior)."

It's actually genuinely hilarious to imagine things flipped around because of the absurdity of it.

But I digress. I just find it very interesting and ironic that many of the guys who teach other guys how to be more attractive aren't themselves attractive. They just get laid a lot... and that's a very different skillset.

Pickup is overcompensating behavior because these guys aren’t picked by women as they are. No guy would study pickup if they were enough as they are. 

I know guys who are weasels but fit the archetype that women like and they get laid. So attractiveness is enough. But if you are not attractive you need to learn pickup to cope with the pickiness of women. 

Most of these guys who do pickup or joined the dark side is because they have seen the true nature of women. Some use their “wound” for good and others use it for bad and spread the evil. 

I think most of these guys turn bitter because they lack love in their lives and we have to show empathy for them instead of laughing at them. Otherwise these group of men will only get bigger. You might think Andrew Tate is bad but most of his videos nowadays are about self development , not about women if you look at his is instagram. There are some really wicked men and they are far worse than Tate. And yes most of them are ugly guys who weren’t picked. And these group of men are getting bigger because they are laughed at instead of being understood. 

Edited 12 hours ago by AION

[AION]

Attractiveness is not only physical attractiveness. Attractiveness includes vibe, personality, status, and money. Before my pickup journey I attracted the girls I wanted but I was to insecure and I didn’t know what I was doing and that repelled them. But I know guys who are never approached by women. So they need to cope with that truth. When I go to the barber and put on some nice clothes I still get some attention especially in a setting where there is alcohol and they are lil loose. But most guys are basically invisible. Most women would get into a depression if they would be ignored this much. 

[Raze]

16 minutes ago, AION said:

Attractiveness is not only physical attractiveness. Attractiveness includes vibe, personality, status, and money. Before my pickup journey I attracted the girls I wanted but I was to insecure and I didn’t know what I was doing and that repelled them. But I know guys who are never approached by women. So they need to cope with that truth. When I go to the barber and put on some nice clothes I still get some attention especially in a setting where there is alcohol and they are lil loose. But most guys are basically invisible. Most women would get into a depression if they would be ignored this much. 

John Anthony has the vibe of nuclear waste and the personality of a cactus 

[AION]

7 minutes ago, Raze said:

John Anthony has the vibe of nuclear waste and the personality of a cactus 

I saw the type of women he attracted. Those are in abundance in cities like Las Vegas.

[AerisVahnEphelia]

Doing pick up is like being a crypto bro, or doing musculation.

No real girl is gonna love you ever.

This is for absolute retard.

worse than a redpill is to make you believe pick up is even worth caring. It’s like learning to drink mercurous lead.

You get girls by being sovereign and god like, moving like a martial artist into existence.

Want girl, just vibe high, make your life a piece of art.

Imagine the ugly painting to think about pick up in any serious way, it's the most moronic garbage and low consciousness you can be.

A man who is a beggar for sex isn’t a man, and you don’t hunt, you attract girls by making yourself a piece of art that the most tasteful eyes will have a desire to acquire.

This is how you find love, of course if you want to wank in plastic feminine doll automaton, just go on and enjoy pua, might as well just masturbate on porn till you’re dead.

Edited 9 hours ago by AerisVahnEphelia

[something_else]

1 minute ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

Doing pick up is like being a crypto bro, or doing musculation.

No real girl is gonna love you ever.

This is for absolute losers.

Leo is worse than a redpill to make you believe pick up is even worse caring. It’s like learning to drink mercurous lead.

You get girls by being sovereign and god like, moving like a martial artist into existence.

Want girl, just vibe high, make your life a piece of art.

Imagine the ugly painting to think about pick up in any serious way, it's the most moronic garbage and low consciousness you can be.

A man who is a beggar for sex isn’t a man, and you don’t hunt, you attract girls by making yourself a piece of art that the most tasteful eyes will have a desire to acquire.

This is how you find love, of course if you want to wank in plastic feminine doll automaton, just go on and enjoy pua, might as well just masturbate on porn till you’re dead.

You're right, but what I think you're missing is that in order to transform your life from that of a socially anxious basement dwelling neckbeard into that of a work of art will require a lot of effort. It isn't something you can just 'do' or 'be' on a whim. I don't particularly like the framing of a lot of pickup advice but it is a good first step to get a man out into the world and talking to people.

I think framing it as 'pickup' is a fundamental mistake because, like you say, it's very needy. It has a lot of very negative connotations and for good reason. It's much better to instead frame it as building social skills, but a lot of the stuff involved is very similar regardless of what you call it. It largely just involves forcing yourself into social situations, pushing your comfort zone socially, making friends, and yea, trying to get laid. I'm sure you'd agree that none of this is inherently bad behaviour. Most men go through a stage like this in their late teens to early twenties without even really knowing what pickup is, it's just a natural stage of male development that got formalised into pickup at some point.

[Leo Gura]

Was any reason given for the take down?

Did he take it down himself or YT did?

[Zenterus]

44 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Was any reason given for the take down?

Did he take it down himself or YT did?

He was being investigated for violating youtube guidelines and eventually got taken down, according to Game Global. 

[Schizophonia]

5 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

I get almost proportionally better results with women, the more unconscious I behave. It is sickening, and heart breaking. And probably not something I am willing to put up with for long anymore. 

Thankfully; the goal of a relationship is to have fun.

Not just with women, but with people in general.

Otherwise it's neurotic; like saying "it's heartbreaking that people eat for pleasure rather than counting calories and choosing quality food".

[Butters]

7 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

@Emerald

Unconscious behaviour attracts unconscious people. Conscious behaviour works as a mirror and no person wants to see how much of a devil they are. Having integrous and truthful conversations with women is the surest way to lose them. The more you feed them fantasies, the better.

Trust me, you aint gettig laid a lot if you behave very consciously and mature, even if you are physically attractive. I am speaking from a ton of personal experience.

Also, there’s a lot of good looking extroverts teaching dating out there. I find that more common (and more of a true issue), unless you are talking about behavioural attractiveness in which case toxic unconscious behaviour is a turn off for a conscious woman like you but a big turn on for majority of women.

That’s the black pill reality of dating.

I get almost proportionally better results with women, the more unconscious I behave. It is sickening, and heart breaking. And probably not something I am willing to put up with for long anymore. 

Largely true, but a minor contradiction. If you just speak less and do more calm physical guiding you'll be just fine. They will project their ego fantasies on you. But if you speak too much you'll break that. 

It's still annoying that you can't find a "true" partner but it it what it is.

God is in love with every woman, why bother committing to one? Why do you need to have sex? God sees the divine mother in every woman, but you want to be a mother fucker. 

[Miguel1]

28 minutes ago, Butters said:

If you just speak less and do more calm physical guiding you'll be just fine. They will project their ego fantasies on you. But if you speak too much you'll break that.

And this is an unconscious behaviour in the sense that you are intentionally playing the mysterious archetype in order to manipualte her fantasies to go wild.

Edited 4 hours ago by Miguel1

[Alexop]

8 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

@Emerald

Unconscious behaviour attracts unconscious people. Conscious behaviour works as a mirror and no person wants to see how much of a devil they are. Having integrous and truthful conversations with women is the surest way to lose them. The more you feed them fantasies, the better.

Trust me, you aint gettig laid a lot if you behave very consciously and mature, even if you are physically attractive. I am speaking from a ton of personal experience.

Also, there’s a lot of good looking extroverts teaching dating out there. I find that more common (and more of a true issue), unless you are talking about behavioural attractiveness in which case toxic unconscious behaviour is a turn off for a conscious woman like you but a big turn on for majority of women.

That’s the black pill reality of dating.

I get almost proportionally better results with women, the more unconscious I behave. It is sickening, and heart breaking. And probably not something I am willing to put up with for long anymore. 

So true man. The most dumb and unconscious guys I know got the most attention from women. It took me sooo long to accept this reality. I thought that behaving truthfully will attract the conscious women to me, but unfortunately not even the most conscious women want to hear you talk about sad truths and dry facts about reality. You give her a bad vibe, bad feelings and she doesn't want that. Most guys included, many just want to hear what they want to hear, not the truth that will break through their petty ideologies. The most juicy ideas that passionate me alot have to be kept for myself.

It is like being able to finish the last level in Mario but if you show to others how you do it, you will get ghosted, you have to play the first 3 levels with them in order to be accepted.

Tell them that feminine perspective cares less about truth than the masculine and see how much sex you'll get, you'll be the first person to get rejected by an AI girlfriend.

Edited 4 hours ago by Alexop

[Alexop]

3 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Thankfully; the goal of a relationship is to have fun.

Not just with women, but with people in general.

Otherwise it's neurotic; like saying "it's heartbreaking that people eat for pleasure rather than counting calories and choosing quality food".

Yes! Relationships are just some enjoyment. Real work is done alone.