Serious personal development forces you to be fake or treat people like children

[Alexop]

Basically nobody cares about serious pursuit of truth and personal development. even with the most educated people I met in my life, I still have to tip-toe around subjects because their beliefs and worldviews are so fucked up that I would just  annoy/insult them if I was truly honest. Is it worth it? Of course, some  feelings of loneliness pales in comparison with knowing you are truly the top 0.1 % of people who take life very seriously, not just playing survival shit.

The ones who say they do this work? Haha, I have to be even more careful with them, because they have built an ego around their false beliefs and actions and are easy to offend. Core lesson. Either be dead serious about this work or let it go and stop building an ego around your ideas, spirituality, political views, and shit, because they are most probably wrong. 

I just had a talk with a very educated influencer from my home country who talks advanced politics. The dude is killing it in regards to understanding the economy and nerdy stuff like that. But even him cannot understand the basic asymmetry of femininity vs. masculinity which mostly throws his work into the trash bin. If you don’t understand femininity vs. masculinity, your LGBT+ understanding is shit, your relationships understanding is shit, your sociology understanding is shit, your understanding of who YOU are and what you want is mostly shit.

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Alexop

[LifeEnjoyer]

Thanks for this brah, I needed it.

[Alexop]

1 hour ago, LifeEnjoyer said:

Thanks for this brah, I needed it.

❤️ 

[Elliott]

What do you mean by 'either tip-toe or annoy/insult them'? Not intentionally annoying or insulting right? I don't see any problem with that, you're not responsible for their feelings.

Edited 9 hours ago by Elliott

[Alexop]

32 minutes ago, Elliott said:

What do you mean by 'either tip-toe or annoy/insult them'? Not intentionally annoying or insulting right? I don't see any problem with that, you're not responsible for their feelings.

 in the feminine country of Sweden, you might end up alone if you hurt too many feelings. Maybe in some shotgun city like Huston, you can be less careful.

And with women it is totally normal to be careful. as Leo said, tell her she is wrong and see how fast she disappears. 

The above paragraph can get you ghosted by most leftist people in Sweden for example. The smallest feminine vs. masculine talk can make them see you as some right wing sexist.

Edited 9 hours ago by Alexop

[Sugarcoat]

It’s a fine balancing act of maintaining your authenticity around people vs keeping certain things for yourself because it wouldn’t resonate or even weird the other person out. The risk with being too fake is not discovering different sides to people (because some more reserved people might be more likely to open up if you start opening up yourself) and also forming connections based on a social fasade, so missing out on real connections. It can be hard to strike this balance, and it can be hard to get into a flow socially when you’re not tapping into your authenticity. 
 

Even if someone doesn’t value the things you value, if they do value learning, curiosity and openness it could mean they’ll be open to learning new perspectives from you. So you can open up new worlds for the right person, if they’re not too rigid in their ways. The thing is some people haven’t even been introduced concepts talked about here, so they just lack knowledge rather than openness. 
 

I find judging people often serves the purpose of ego gratification. So if we try to pursue true connection, we wanna reduce that. A judgment might even cloud an accurate image of someone- so watch out for that.

 

 

[Alexop]

3 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

I find judging people often serves the purpose of ego gratification. So if we try to pursue true connection, we wanna reduce that. A judgment might even cloud an accurate image of someone- so watch out for that.

It can be that, it can also be sharing of a deep itch that you feel sharing so you don't feel like you are an alien on this planet. Being a little bit frustrated with the world is a sign that you face truth, not just drawning in fake positivity. I'd rather have a close friend that is a bit frustrated and fighthing for truth than a fake positive pussy.

Edited 6 hours ago by Alexop

[Schizophonia]

@Alexop I find you look scandinavian, where do you come from 

Edited 5 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Alexop]

39 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

@Alexop I find you look scandinavian, where do you come from 

Romania 

[Daniel Balan]

6 hours ago, Alexop said:

Basically nobody cares about serious pursuit of truth and personal development. even with the most educated people I met in my life, I still have to tip-toe around subjects because their beliefs and worldviews are so fucked up that I would just  annoy/insult them if I was truly honest. Is it worth it? Of course, some  feelings of loneliness pales in comparison with knowing you are truly the top 0.1 % of people who take life very seriously, not just playing survival shit.

The ones who say they do this work? Haha, I have to be even more careful with them, because they have built an ego around their false beliefs and actions and are easy to offend. Core lesson. Either be dead serious about this work or let it go and stop building an ego around your ideas, spirituality, political views, and shit, because they are most probably wrong. 

I just had a talk with a very educated influencer from my home country who talks advanced politics. The dude is killing it in regards to understanding the economy and nerdy stuff like that. But even him cannot understand the basic asymmetry of femininity vs. masculinity which mostly throws his work into the trash bin. If you don’t understand femininity vs. masculinity, your LGBT+ understanding is shit, your relationships understanding is shit, your sociology understanding is shit, your understanding of who YOU are and what you want is mostly shit.

 

Bro who did you talk to from our country? Who is this "influencer" who has top tier knowledge on politics? From my experience no one from our country even remotely knows what they are talking about when it comes to politics.

And regarding the rest of the post, honestly I never talk anything related to personal development to anyone. Nor do I feel the need to do so. I talk to people normal mundane stuff, not the advanced stuff Leo talks about. I would only talk stuff like this only if someone would deliberately ask me about personal development. This stuff is too hard to explain and honestly too much talking about it yields no results. We have a saying here that goes by the following: Shut up and do! And regarding personal development this is the most important, the doing aspect of the matter, talking is nice but at the end of the day is just empty words. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Daniel Balan

[Hojo]

Best life pro tip of spirituality is to treat everyone like they are a retarded child. When you do that you subtly identify with it and will become one. Then you will be welcome into the kingdom of God.

Edited 4 hours ago by Hojo

[integral]

Stop thinking about people. Never think about them again. Completely do your own thing.

[Leo Gura]

That's why monks live in seclusion.

Once you are deeply conscious society has little to offer you.

Edited 1 hour ago by Leo Gura

[ivankiss]

Bring truth down to earth. Meet them at the level they're at. That's true mastery.

[integral]

Truth above all else that's my life

 

Edited 1 hour ago by integral

[Emerald]

Be careful not to use your inner work as a means to feel superior to other people.

You are not better than the average person because you're into personal development and spirituality. It doesn't even guarantee that you're wiser than others.

[Terell Kirby]

8 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Be careful not to use your inner work as a means to feel superior to other people.

You are not better than the average person because you're into personal development and spirituality. It doesn't even guarantee that you're wiser than others.

this makes a lot of assumptions that OP is coming from a place of feeling superior.

You can become conscious to such a degree where other people don't even exist, no one to be superior to.

Right / wrong, morality, relationships, being good in relationships-these are all human games in the mind of God

Real inner work genuinely leads to one realizing they are God-humans would call this as superiority complex, but what if it isn't?

What if it's Truth itself .. food for thought

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Honestly, this is my experience:

If you are judging something outside you - some behaviour in others as stupid, bad, frustrating or find yourself having a reaction - it is because you are disowning and rejecting that WITHIN YOU.

To make a judgement about something is to say 'I do not have that' which immediately prevents you from acknowledging whatever that is, in you. If you did acknowledge it, you would dislike/hate yourself. And you DO have some element of what you dislike externally, in you. Always. You are just unconscious to it, and it is in indicator you have more work to do regarding self awareness and integration.

The marker for growth here is discernment. You can look at behaviour and say 'That is negative, and lead to bad outcomes'. Discernment. Whereas judging is disowning that behaviour and denigrating it in some way. Having a feeling reaction of aversion. As you grow, you will find yourself applying discernment and less judgement.

It can also operate in reverse - you see a trait/behaviour in others you love that you do not have. You do have it, you just do not see it in yourself. You have disowned it. It is relegated to the unconscious.

Discernment > judgement. Important distinction.

Edited 21 minutes ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Emerald]

30 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

this makes a lot of assumptions that OP is coming from a place of feeling superior.

It's not an assumption. It's an observation.

It's clear that the OPs perspective comes from a place of polarization, judgment, and resistance to the way that the average person is.

It's his way of hierarchically differentiating himself from the plebeian hordes of average non-truthseeking people who simply live their lives.

It's saying, "Now that I am (superior) like this... I scoff at those who are (inferior) like that."

It's building an identity based on hierarchical differentiation and uncommonality. Is that not clear to you?

[Emerald]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Honestly, this is my experience:

If you are judging something outside you - some behaviour in others as stupid, bad, frustrating or find yourself having a reaction - it is because you are disowning and rejecting that WITHIN YOU.

To make a judgement about something is to say 'I do not have that' which immediately prevents you from acknowledging whatever that is, in you. If you did acknowledge it, you would dislike/hate yourself. And you DO have some element of what you dislike externally, in you. Always. You are just unconscious to it, and it is in indicator you have more work to do regarding self awareness and integration.

The marker for growth here is discernment. You can look at behaviour and say 'That is negative, and lead to bad outcomes'. Discernment. Whereas judging is disowning that behaviour and denigrating it in some way. Having a feeling reaction of aversion.

It can also operate in reverse - you see a trait/behaviour in others you love that you do not have. You do have it, you just do not see it in yourself. You have disowned it. It is relegated to the unconscious.

Discernment > judgement. Important distinction.

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