Serious personal development forces you to be fake or treat people like children

[Leo Gura]

This work has nothing to do with superiority. You are merely seeking greater consciousness of God. If you do that seriously it will automatically make you superior. But that is irrelevant because Consciousness is the only thing that matters.

As an adult among children you know you are so superior that it doesn't even need to be said or thought.

This work will make you an adult among children, a lion among sheep, an eagle among pidgeons, a whale among fish, an alien among men.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Alexop]

@Leo Gura  yes! I am the other, I am the Trumpist fool who spams X, I am that virgin incel who live with his mother at 35 yo.

Once in while I feel like sharing how special this work is on your alien incubator forum. I'll do this work until I'll grow a third telepatic eye sir!

I mostly relate well with people regardless of their development, but my relocation to Sweden affected me a bit, as I am a quite masculine and spicy person. People are fragile here, and it's not just me who said this, dated a French girl recently and said she feels exactly the same. As masculinity vs. femininity is a huge passion of mine, I have to keep it for myself, I think that is the biggest problem. This country suffers in silence because they don't understand this subject and it saddens me a lot to see it. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Alexop

[Rafael Thundercat]

20 hours ago, Alexop said:

Basically nobody cares about serious pursuit of truth and personal development. even with the most educated people I met in my life, I still have to tip-toe around subjects because their beliefs and worldviews are so fucked up that I would just  annoy/insult them if I was truly honest. Is it worth it? Of course, some  feelings of loneliness pales in comparison with knowing you are truly the top 0.1 % of people who take life very seriously, not just playing survival shit.

The ones who say they do this work? Haha, I have to be even more careful with them, because they have built an ego around their false beliefs and actions and are easy to offend. Core lesson. Either be dead serious about this work or let it go and stop building an ego around your ideas, spirituality, political views, and shit, because they are most probably wrong. 

I just had a talk with a very educated influencer from my home country who talks advanced politics. The dude is killing it in regards to understanding the economy and nerdy stuff like that. But even him cannot understand the basic asymmetry of femininity vs. masculinity which mostly throws his work into the trash bin. If you don’t understand femininity vs. masculinity, your LGBT+ understanding is shit, your relationships understanding is shit, your sociology understanding is shit, your understanding of who YOU are and what you want is mostly shit.

 

In would like to talk with you friend, i may recomend him some People who may give him some perspectives on that gap he miss.

[Rafael Thundercat]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's why monks live in seclusion.

Once you are deeply conscious society has little to offer you.

The sad reality,  also this shows that the last Bull of the zen bulls metaphor of kind of bullshit since it shows the zen master living among the commoners. 

[koops]

I feel similar to this. In a way yes, is like talking to children.
Is like living in a world full of 40 year old teenagers. Puer aeternus, like Jung said.

And forget about awakening or profound spirituality. Most people just dont care. Is just how it is.

Just studying and deeply understanding dynamics (moving into stage yellow), epistemology, understanding bias, survival vs truth, social matrix, going meta, paradigms... man, when you hear people talk about politics or day to day life... I really feel astonished... the level of inner development is so low...

The key here is that this level of development is the standard. So people dont feel the urge to upgrade. People stop evolving around 25. Then coast thru life. Work, consume & repeat. 

And is not about judging.
5 years ago I was more in the go go-stage orange, mix with some hippie phases, so I feel a bit ashamed of my prior self. My level of thinking was pretty low also.
Now in stead of getting angry, I just try to have fun with the situation.  Paraphrasing the beginning of the Gran Gatsby: Not everybody had the same opportunities that I had, so, they are where they can. 

Its just a cosmic joke. Lets enjoy it

 

[Rafael Thundercat]

52 minutes ago, Alexop said:

@Leo Gura  yes! I am the other, I am the Trumpist fool who spams X, I am that virgin incel who live with his mother at 35 yo.

Once in while I feel like sharing how special this work is on your alien incubator forum. I'll do this work until I'll grow a third telepatic eye sir!

I mostly relate well with people regardless of their development, but my relocation to Sweden affected me a bit, as I am a quite masculine and spicy person. People are fragile here, and it's not just me who said this, dated a French girl recently and said she feels exactly the same. As masculinity vs. femininity is a huge passion of mine, I have to keep it for myself, I think that is the biggest problem. This country suffers in silence because they don't understand this subject and it saddens me a lot to see it. 

You dont imagine how this masculine feminine thing plays out in Brasil, there is a mine field for polarity work. You would love that. I go there and tell you later the adventures navigating there.

[koops]

20 hours ago, Alexop said:

 

I just had a talk with a very educated influencer from my home country who talks advanced politics. The dude is killing it in regards to understanding the economy and nerdy stuff like that. But even him cannot understand the basic asymmetry of femininity vs. masculinity which mostly throws his work into the trash bin. If you don’t understand femininity vs. masculinity, your LGBT+ understanding is shit, your relationships understanding is shit, your sociology understanding is shit, your understanding of who YOU are and what you want is mostly shit.

 

The problem with this people is that the overfocus in ONE aspect of life, but they forget the rest.

Like the multi-millionaire that gets destroyed by his wife, because he never took the time to learn about women or inter sexual dynamics.

Or top tier athletes with shitty spirituality. 

Or the spiritual guru who just eats sattvic foods and gets sick.

Its the norm, not the exception. 

[Alexop]

48 minutes ago, koops said:

The problem with this people is that the overfocus in ONE aspect of life, but they forget the rest.

Like the multi-millionaire that gets destroyed by his wife, because he never took the time to learn about women or inter sexual dynamics.

Or top tier athletes with shitty spirituality. 

Or the spiritual guru who just eats sattvic foods and gets sick.

Its the norm, not the exception. 

Yup, this is why they are millionaires, because they focus so much on making money. I saw a reality show with a millionaire from Sweden, he is like a complete child, from the way he dresses, they way he behaves, the way he talks. But yea he knows how to survive in this capitalist dog eat dog madness. 

Man, relationships are so important to the average folk. no yacht, no Lamborghini can replace that. You suck at masculinity vs. femininity/social skills/ inner work etc.  you are fucked for life. The average folk will never be happy by moving to a cave.

Edited 1 hour ago by Alexop

[koops]

8 minutes ago, Alexop said:

Man, relationships are so important to the average folk, no yacht, no Lamborghini can replace that. You such at masculinity/femininity, social skills, you are fucked for life. The average folk will never be happy by moving to a cave.

MOST will be fucked moving to a cave, even the highly developed ones. Lets take Leo, he still loves the forum. He is no cave. He is virtually socializing. Is tough to let that go.

Osho, Sadguru, Spira etc...  the same. There is this human urge to have some socialization.

I love isolation, but at the same time some good socialization is great from time to time. There can be a combination of both, a synergy; we just need to recontextualize what socialization can and cannot give to us.

My guess is most monks are in monasteries, with MORE people; not alone in caves.

[Alexop]

@koops exactly 

[Lyubov]

11 hours ago, Emerald said:

Be careful not to use your inner work as a means to feel superior to other people.

You are not better than the average person because you're into personal development and spirituality. It doesn't even guarantee that you're wiser than others.

Ain’t this the truth. I learned this one the hard way after thinking I knew better with every person I interacted with when talking about life. 
 

I do think there’s one thing we always can do though when we meet someone we believe isn’t really valuing truth, stay silent and not engage. 

[Alexop]

1 hour ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

You dont imagine how this masculine feminine thing plays out in Brasil, there is a mine field for polarity work. You would love that. I go there and tell you later the adventures navigating there.

Traditional countries also suck at these dynamics, not as hard though. Many men there are some macho jerks who treat women like shit.

[Nemra]

2 minutes ago, Alexop said:

Many men there are some macho jerks who treat women like shit.

The other option is the "nice", family man whose relationship decisions are based on his family and friends. He would gaslight his wife and would rather blame her than go against his family. There are lots of them.

[Alexop]

38 minutes ago, Nemra said:

The other option is the "nice", family man whose relationship decisions are based on his family and friends. He would gaslight his wife and would rather blame her than go against his family. There are lots of them.

Interesting, so many types of shitty men.

[Nemra]

12 minutes ago, Alexop said:

Interesting, so many types of shitty men.

The thing is, women also play into that behavior. Some of them don't know better and think that they are being womanly by reinforcing it.

It's nauseating to hear about both of their lives.

Imagine people around you expecting you to marry someone of their liking and have babies, just so your family and extended family would be happy and proud that you are continuing their "genes". It's difficult to stand up for yourself when your survival depends on them and there's no easy way to escape from it.