Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[Elliott]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He was anti fascist it seems.

The left is not a cartoon stereotype of blue hair lesbians. People with left views can look like anyone. And they can even love and use guns.

This idea that a leftist can never use a gun is silly. There are thousands of leftist marksmen, soldiers, police, military, security, hunters, sportsmen, hobbiests, etc.

He was MAGA, wore trump merchandise. Donated to maga.

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Elliott said:

He was MAGA, wore trump merchandise. Donated to maga.

Evidence??

I have seen nothing conclusive of the sort.

[Talinn]

2 minutes ago, Elliott said:

He was MAGA, wore trump merchandise. Donated to maga.

His classmate in high school supposedly say his political views diverged widely from his family.

His friend could have lied for him so they'd blame the left more, he still could have been an accelerationist. 

Hard to say for sure, we rarely get the full picture on these sorts of people.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

He was MAGA, wore trump merchandise. Donated to maga.

This has been explicitly debunked, I know what you're talking about.

[Talinn]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He was anti fascist it seems.

The left is not a cartoon stereotype of blue hair lesbians. People with left views can look like anyone. And they can even love and use guns.

This idea that a leftist can never use a gun is silly. There are thousands of leftist marksmen, soldiers, police, military, security, hunters, sportsmen, hobbyists, etc.

It only takes 1 out of 300 million. With those odds you can find a two-headed Siamese twin with a grudge against something Charlie Kirk once said.

He very well could have been a leftist. But still you do not grow up around that many guns and be a more stereotypical leftist like you'd find in Seattle -+ which is what he could be painted as. It just won't happen in Utah.

The whole discourse is so annoyingly overly simplistic.

[Jodistrict]

Trying to attach him to a political philosophy is silly.  He was incoherent.  He was anger looking for a target.  

[PenguinPablo]

@Joshe Litte kids being influenced does not exclude adult children.

[Inliytened1]

On 9/10/2025 at 2:53 PM, Leo Gura said:

This is not good. The fascism is going to spiral now.

This will give the fascists just the excuse they were looking for to go full authoritarian mode.

So you're calling the right fascists. 

This just feeds into the problem. 

You might be the problem.

Your words were on the bullet casings. 

Your supporter already went beyond authoritarian mode by striking down an innocent man.  Destroying what is left of free speech.  

 

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[Joshe]

2 minutes ago, PenguinPablo said:

@Joshe Litte kids being influenced does not exclude adult children.

Yeah, that was really my point but I figured that was harder for him to see. 

[Elliott]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Evidence??

I have seen nothing conclusive of the sort.

I got fooled.

 

 

Damn kid, threw his life away.

We don't need to hurt anyone, guys. We can beat them.

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[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Evidence??

I have seen nothing conclusive of the sort.

Doesn't matter you are feeding into this festering hate for the right via the labeling of fascism and the demonization of Trump.  You reap what you sow.  You'll get the same with Israel.  Be careful who you demonize.  You just might become the demon.

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[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Doesn't matter you are feeding into this festering hate for the right via the labeling of fascism and the demonization of Trump.  You reap what you sow.  You'll get the same with Israel.  Be careful who you demonize.  You just might become the demon.

Leave Leo alone 😜😜

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Leave Leo alone 😜😜

It was on the bullet casings.   

[Elliott]

26 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Doesn't matter you are feeding into this festering hate for the right via the labeling of fascism and the demonization of Trump.  You reap what you sow.  You'll get the same with Israel.  Be careful who you demonize.  You just might become the demon.

Bullshit, he does not spread hate. You yourself published a thread about Trump being an authoritarian. Pointing out wrongs of others is not hate, it's pointing out wrongs. He allows right wingers and zionists on here, for Christ's sake.

"Fascism;an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization"

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[Vibes]

@Inliytened1 We were waiting for your infinite wisdom, truthfulness and love to weigh in here... 🙄

 

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Bullshit, he does not spread hate. You yourself published a thread about Trump being an authoritarian.

"Fascism;an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization"

My posts was to question whether the DC takeover was a form of soft authoritianism.  A far cry from calling someone a fascist outright- which is a direct alignment with Nazism.  Terminology is especially impressionable on young people like this apparent shooter. 

[Elliott]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

My posts was to question whether the DC takeover was a form of soft authoritianism.  A far cry from calling someone a fascist outright- which is a direct alignment with Nazism.  Terminology is especially impressionable on young people like this apparent shooter. 

Soft authoritarianism, is authoritarianism.

Pointing out wrongs of others is not hate, it's pointing out wrongs. He allows right wingers and zionists on here, for Christ's sake.

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[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, Vibes said:

@Inliytened1 We were waiting for your infinite wisdom, truthfulness and love to weigh in here... 🙄

 

Thanks 😊  and now I'm waiting for yours hehe. 

Don't mock the signature it's good stuff!

Edited 19 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Soft authoritarianism, is authoritarianism.

Pointing out wrongs of others is not hate, it's pointing out wrongs. He allows right wingers and zionists on here, for Christ's sake.

He is deep left- and sometimes he gets quite extreme with his views.  Whether you want to see that or not.  To me I have no idea given his spiritual level that he could be this deep left but he is.  So we must be careful on its effect on the youth  there's many unstable people out there and when you start introducing the fascist term you bring up thoughts of the Holocaust.  I don't want that to be but it is.  

[Elliott]

 

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So we must be careful on its effect on the youth  there's many unstable people out there and when you start introducing the fascist term you bring up thoughts of the Holocaust.  I don't want that to be but it is.  

Bullshit, calling someone a fascist while having a legitimate argument is not hate speech, you're blaming Leo for Trump inciting this kid. You're anti free speech.

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He is deep left- and sometimes he gets quite extreme with his views.  Whether you want to see that or not.  To me I have no idea given his spiritual level that he could be this deep left but he is. 

Arguably. I personally disagree with his socialist stuff.

You're against free speech, people have to be able to be wrong.

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