Leo Gura

New Video: Why Truth Is The Highest Value

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12 hours ago, ExploringReality said:

Thank you. Have you experienced the fear of dropping inauthentic aspects of yourself especially in a social context? Like the uncomfortable fear of not putting up a front or a mask that makes you fit in a social domain in different social contexts. Like having the fear of shining too bright around others, especially when you're someone that values truth you don't want to hurt people's feelings and you try not to come off too strongly with your presence even though deep down you know that you're lowering yourself, sacrificing yourself or what's true for what's comfortable for others and yourself. Sorry I digress lol.

Your first sentence is 🔥🎯 I just had an insight! Truth is already what is True. It is itself right now.

As a background sense or subtle form of fear, sure. You're asking about "being oneself" in a social context, which seems to show up in the character and behavior you present to others, although we could get clear on what that business consists of. I don't think this struggle is uncommon. 

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12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Teacher, professor, academic, tutor

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Don't expect the field itself to come with truth, you gotta bring the truth to it. Most fields are corrupt by default. Your job is to make it truthful.

how could a nightclub promoter put truth in his or her job ? or a business that hires promoters to bring hot girls to various venues and sells tickets and books rich people tables and private events cause that's what my business entails basically but now weaving towards hiring people / creating promoters / jobs for others so that we can both profit, this gives other opportunities to make money yet in a bit of superficial place but helps students / people as a side hustle or main hustle to make more income to support themselves whilst in a very expensive city, there's pros and cons to it but there is pros and cons to everything i feel so i dont know if it's truthful enough or how can it be made more truthful

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@Leo Gura Why is post modernism devilry?


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But Leo, not all women are the same. Once a girl told me:

Truth straight to my face. Like a load.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty.  We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Wise, Virtuous and AWAKE. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life GOD is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, because The Sun shines through All: Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

@Leo Gura Why is post modernism devilry?

It denies the existence of Truth/God.

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You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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Feelings can contain lots of truth. Feelings are also a tool of survival.

The same is true of thoughts. People use thoughts for falsehood all the time. But thoughts can carry truth.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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Greta video so far. Only an hour in but I’m really enjoying it. Love all the examples. 
 

I also know far too many people who treat feelings as God itself. They almost worship their intuition and feelings, it can be a trap in itself. Makes people uncommitted and unreliable. 


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I don’t think people are evil, they are an expression of God, they are God, but they have very strange survival mechanisms that do require deception, selfishness and bias very deeply. So yeah people are inherently kinda full of shit and anti truth but that’s just because our survival hinges on it. 


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I loved the video; however, I keep noticing the same flaw of masculine bias in all of Leo's posts, critiques, and videos.

The most accurate value would be "Why God is the Highest Value."

Leo mentioned that love cannot be the highest value, since God doesn’t care only about love, beauty, airy-fairy things, your feelings, suffering, or creating a utopian fantasy where everyone is happy, etc. However, this is a strawman of what Love truly is, and we all know it here, too.

I could make the same strawman about truth. Truth is undoubtedly an important value, but God doesn’t care about just giving you the correct, truthful, and direct information. Now, wouldn't that be nice? He isn’t going to spoon-feed you; He will also create falsehoods, illusions, and lies because that’s also part of Him. Why the hell do you think it's so difficult to realize God? God doesn’t care about your limited values of constant integrity. God is infinite, and therefore encompasses both truth and falsehood. I mean, just look around, does this world seem like something full of truth-seeking organisms, or is it more about feeling-based survival mechanics? Don't you think that if God wanted to, He could have created a world where we all must seek and speak the truth, where accuracy is paramount? Of course, He could. But since God encompasses all, He is both the absence and the integrity of truth itself.

Similarly, I could also present love as a "higher value."

However, as I define it, love means the ability to fully and utterly accept, be, understand, and appreciate whatever reality is. You cannot claim to know what reality truly is until you feel that you can fully embody it, be it, understand it, and love it. This is what true love is, and why it is unconditional and holy, just like God Himself. This makes love an even higher value than truth, since it's not just about "facing the truth" or "being aware of it," it also means fully embodying it with all your might. That, now, is true God. 

In a way, it’s easier to be aware of the truth of your child dying (it is right there staring at you 24/7 in a hospital bed), but good fucking luck being so hardcore that you can truly embody that reality, let alone LOVE it, and unconditionally ACCEPT it. Even if you are aware of the truth, could you ever do that? This is the insanity and unconditional nature of God. Love is the ultimate proof of acceptance of truth, and hence, the highest value.

Note: I don’t actually mean this; I’m just showing the possible strawman and misrepresentation that can happen.

The most accurate highest value is infinity or God, or "to be itself," "I am-ness".

I’m afraid Leo still holds truth as something masculine that he wants to contrast against love, even though both truth and love are God. This creates an unnecessary bias and imprecision in his arguments.

The rest of the video I enjoyed very much, thank you! :x

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13 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

since God doesn’t care only about love, beauty, airy-fairy things

I didn't say that.

God cares about LOVE, not human love.

The issue is that humans have a corrupt notion of Love. Truth is necessary to reach true Love.

All this was explained in the video.

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But think of it in a much more profound way. Imagine God sitting there at the beginning of creation, seeing all of these different values out there. God saw all the possibilities and wondered, "What should God value if God is creating the universe? What should the universe be built around? Should it be sex? Maximizing sex? Should it be about maximizing money? Should it be about family or tribe? Should it be about reducing suffering in the world?" No. None of those things. Obviously, none of those things. That's why those things exist, as parts of the universe, but not as the entirety of the universe.

Do you really get this? Do you see that existence itself cannot be about making money? I mean, it's so obvious, but really try to understand it. The creation of reality cannot be based on getting money because what would money mean to God? What does the universe care about money? It’s so trivial. The same thing with sex, with pleasure. Why would God care about pleasure? Why would God care about an ethnic group? Why would God care about Zionists, or white people, or Asian people, or Jews? Obviously, that’s not what existence is about.

So think of it this way: It’s as if God said to Himself, "Of all the things I could choose to create something wonderful based upon, what is going to be the one central organizing principle?" And it has to be, of course, the truth. Truth is so important that it’s as if God said, "Not only am I going to just have truth, I’m literally going to make truth my being. I’m going to become truth."

But this isn’t completely correct; God is only being who He is (Infinity) because that’s all He can do: be Himself, fully, completely, and wholly. And this again includes both falsehood and truth, love, embodiment, and the lack thereof. God didn’t choose to gravitate toward truth; God simply chose to truthfully be Himself. All possibilities, everything that could be, are included in God’s essence, as He is Infinity, completely and totally, truthfully.

If God has to lie to be Himself, He will lie. If God has to divide and delude to experience all of His self, He will divide and delude. The human understanding of Truth is just as relative as Love is here.

Now, if you say, "Well, no, I mean truth as in the acceptance of both truth and falsehood," then I would say, "Well, then it’s unfair not to consider that acceptance or love is the same as that." The highest form of love is the acceptance of both truth and falsehood, not just acceptance, but full embodiment and submission to it. And not only that, but love for it, enjoyment of it, seeking to understand it, and nourishing it.

If you say, "Well, truth includes that," then we’re just playing silly semantics where you want to present truth as superior to love for whatever reason (possibly masculine bias). Does what I’m saying make sense? Hope so!

I do agree that both Leo and many members of this forum realize that truth and love are the same as God, as reality. But I just don’t understand why to insert the masculine bias of truth. It makes you seem more close-minded and imprecise in your understanding. I’ve seen it across your blog posts, too, where you mention femininity vs. masculinity.

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6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I didn't say that.

God cares about LOVE, not human love.

The issue is that humans have a corrupt notion of Love. Truth is necessary to reach true Love.

All this was explained in the video.

I understand, no worries! xD

Again, my only critique here is that I feel like you’ve straw-manned what truth and love are, making truth seem more accurate, even though they are essentially the same. This creates an impression of an intrinsic bias or an imprecise definition/understanding.

God = Reality = Love = Truth = Purity = Being

Also, I apologize in advance if I come off as confrontational. I really loved the video; this is just a small aspect I’ve noticed being repeated, and I was curious about it.


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4 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

I feel like you’ve straw-manned what truth and love are, making truth seem more accurate, even though they are essentially the same. This creates an impression of an intrinsic bias

I did that on purpose due to the danger of people getting seduced into false love.

The symmetry becomes the trap.

We need to emphasize truth because that's what keeps us out of self-deception. Then you can have real love.

I am forcing you to eat your vegetables before you get dessert. Because I know the child wants dessert first.

I've thought a lot about this issue. It's not just some bias I'm acting out unconsciously.

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Is it serving truth to shoot someone who spreads racism, delusion and falsehood? 
 

I don’t think so, because everyone should have freedom of speech and not fear for their life 

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Just now, Leo Gura said:

I did that on purpose due to the danger of people getting seduced into false love.

The symmetry becomes the trap.

We need to emphasize truth because that's what keeps us out of self-deception. Then you can have real love.

I am forcing you to eat your vegetables before you get dessert. Because I know the child wants dessert first.

That’s fine, but I feel like this should be emphasized. I’ve seen you (especially in your masculinity and truth posts) seem very biased in a way that skews towards truth, in a way that's contrasted and starmanned without proper acknowledgment. I highly encourage you to investigate those blind spots! I have no issue with your approach as long as it’s acknowledged properly, but I just haven’t seen that. You, of all people, should be aware of how much an undefined, biased statement can be infectious and misinterpreted. I compared your masculinity and truth posts to my femininity and truth posts to see how some of these flaws might creep in.


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5 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

 

Is it serving truth to shoot someone who spreads racism, delusion and falsehood? 
 

I don’t think so, because everyone should have freedom of speech and not fear for their life 

Please don't discuss that issue here. We have a thread for it in the Politics section.

Violence does not serve truth.


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12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I've thought a lot about this issue. It's not just some bias I'm acting out unconsciously.

I personally haven’t seen it, no offense 😅, but most of the arguments in the masculinity and truth post weren’t very well thought out and heavily myopic, stereotypical, and biased. And if the goal was to create a biased strawman for truth vs. love, it wasn’t done very clearly, either, or with a warning. That’s why I’m commenting on it, since I’m seeing this type of bias and thinking bleeding through in newer videos as well.


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