New Video: Why Truth Is The Highest Value

[TheEnigma]

In your video you said if the individual wants to chase a materialistic life, they can, and of course they will also cause themselves a lot of suffering. So In absolute terms, isn't it okay and nothing is stopping Trump from doing this? You just said there's nothing particularly wrong with that.

Edited September 11 by TheEnigma

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

@Leo Gura Leo, this is the first video of yours I completed in many years. I'm glad to see that hardcore spirituality is back.

I have two questions. First, you said that if someone really cares about the truth, they will find it. But how will they find it?

Contemplation and inquiry. By deep questioning and deconstruction of beliefs, ideologies, and fantasies. Through radical introspection. Through research. You can literally find anything you want on Google.

5 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

Second, what if the truth about a certain matter is unknowable. For example, someone wants to find out whether their boss hates them. No matter how much contemplation you do, there's no way of finding out what your boss thinks about you. What do we do in those situations where we can't find the truth? 

These are relative truths. Not all relative truths are knowable. But the truths about the working of your own mind, reality in general, are available.

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, TheEnigma said:

In your video you said if the individual wants to chase a materialistic life, they can, and of course they will also cause themselves a lot of suffering. So I'm absolute terms, isn't it okay and nothing is stopping Trump from doing this? 

There are no shoulds in the Universe. You can live as a total monster. The only reason not to is that it will probably backfire on you and create misery for yourself and others. And of course, it will restrict your consciousness.

There is no moral difference between a monster and a saint. But the monster will not know God/Truth/Love.

[Leo Gura]

24 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

@Leo Gura Leo, this is the first video of yours I completed in many years. I'm glad to see that hardcore spirituality is back.

You missed a lot of hardcore stuff that I published this year.

Every video I publish these days is essential. There is no more fluff. If I grow from creating it, you will grow from consuming it.

[erikchomko]

I like the idea that values are holographic - meaning that every value, properly realized, contains all other values 

For example, you cannot honour family at the highest level if you do not care about your health, balance, truth, and love.  

And if you say you honour truth and love, but mistreat and lie to your family you cannot say you value truth. 

Same with romantic love or anything else - the highest realization of any value requires caring deeply about all other values. 

I guess it's true that in order for values to reveal their holographic nature you have to want to realize the deepest, highest expression of any given value. Which could be construed as valuing the "truest" version of that value, which I guess supports the video's thesis. 

I guess it's also true that someone who deeply values family and ends up with 8 kids as a result is less likely to awaken. But you could make the argument that if this person really valued family they wouldn't let their time be totally dominated by their family (so they'd maybe have fewer kids or get support systems in place to free up their time), because you can't be the best possible parent if all your time is going to parenting and there is no balance.  
 

[Ode]

Absolutely fantastic video. I feel like lot of the things said in the video just sounded so obvious but I've never heard them said before. My question is that is it possible to cripple your decision making when the Truth becomes the highest value? What I mean by that is that sometimes I feel like decisions just need to be made quickly and there might not be time for truth seeking. How does a real truth seeker handle these scenarios? Can a real truth seeker be in a swat group handling a hostage situation?

[UpperMaster]

You’ve once mentioned that your work is not for psychopaths or people who just naturally get pleasure from hurting people.

but for the sake of understanding:

If a psychopath both likes to hurt people (no conscience), and cares about truth is will his consciousness really be limited.

The only reason most of us can’t commit “devilry” while caring about the truth is that doing so usually requires lying to ourselves to justify our actions.
 

But a psychopath doesn’t need self-deception he can commit evil without feeling anything at all. So he CAN be evil without sacrificing truth…

or am I going wrong? 

Edited September 13 by UpperMaster

[ExploringReality]

Leo, I can only imagine the mind games you must have dealt with when dating your ex's. What are some examples that you can share here with your girlfriends that completely fucked with your head. Did you get into some nasty arguments with them? And how did you handle situations in which your girlfriend would make it all about her feelings? Like for example let's say you take accountability for something harsh you said or how you said it. But then she doesn't take any accountability and makes it all about her feelings. Have you ever dated a fan? Does your ex watch your work? Especially your latest video? I wonder what the hell she thinks of you now lol

Edited September 13 by ExploringReality

[ZeldaStar]

Very interesting video, watched it all, but I have some questions,

I wasn't fully convinced by the argument around prioritizing truth over family.

The argument Leo brought up in the video is that if one prioritizes their family over truth, their family might get corrupt. 

At the same time, I can use this argument the other way. Imagine one was to prioritize truth over family. But they end up in a situation where someone puts a gun their family member's head. 

This is not to say that I think family must be above truth, either. But I am not sure why do we need this notion of truth being the top value and being higher than other values. Why can't we just say truth must be an important value for an individual? It seems to me like it's making the video's content more controversial, and would make it harder to reshare this video with someone else. 

I feel like there is a bias towards likeminded people with INTP-type of thinking, which corrupts the video and makes it more difficult for this type of content to spread more broadly. I can see there a fundamental message here that lots of people would benefit from, but saying truth should be higher than family seems to hinder the effectiveness. 

[ryoko]

Leo is posting new cognitohazards everytime @ZeldaStar

Once you entertain the idea of truth as the highest value, it takes a lot of energy to set something else. And it's easier to pivot to fantasy/shared delusions as highest value, as a response. 

[Yimpa]

7 hours ago, ZeldaStar said:

Why can't we just say truth must be an important value for an individual? It seems to me like it's making the video's content more controversial, and would make it harder to reshare this video with someone else. 

U are Truth!

[ZeldaStar]

1 hour ago, Yimpa said:

U are Truth!

Yea, and so is everything else in the universe. Speaking in an absolute sense, there isn't really a difference between any of the values... so we are in a relative reference point in this discussion. 

So why don't we drop the ordering? 

[Leo Gura]

On 9/14/2025 at 8:45 AM, ZeldaStar said:

But I am not sure why do we need this notion of truth being the top value and being higher than other values.

Because it must lead to corruption.

To place anything in your mind above God is corruption.

You still haven't understood that. You still think this is some mind of debate about personal choices and opinions. No. This is ontological. Your opinions, your care for your family is irrelevant. If you put your family first you are immediately corrupt, regardless of what happens.

Everyone who places family as their #1 value is corrupt! Get that.

[Hardkill]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because it must lead to corruption.

To place anything in your mind above God is corruption.

You still haven't understood that. You still think this is some mind of debate about personal choices and opinions. No. This is ontological. Your opinions, your care for your family is irrelevant. If you put your family first you are immediately corrupt, regardless of what happens.

Everyone who places family as their #1 value is corrupt! Get that.

Yeah, but I feel like placing truth above everything else is a luxury that most people can't afford to do because of what it takes to survive and thrive.

Edited September 15 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Yeah, but I feel like placing truth above everything else is a luxury that most people can't afford to do because of what it takes to survive and thrive.

EXACTLY! That is the key insight which nobody grasps!

You are incapable of understanding reality because nature is holding a gun to your head and you are too threatened and distracted.

It's not about luxury, it's about selfishness vs selflessness. You are too fucking selfish to understand reality. And from this one thing come ALL of your problems.

Edited September 15 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

EXACTLY! That is the key insight which nobody grasps!

You are incapable of understanding reality because nature is holding a gun to your head and you are too threatened and distracted.

It's not about luxury, it's about selfishness vs selflessness. You are too fucking selfish to understand reality.

I admit that I am selfish, but life is hard.

[diegogomez42]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Because it must lead to corruption.

To place anything in your mind above God is corruption.

You still haven't understood that. You still think this is some mind of debate about personal choices and opinions. No. This is ontological. Your opinions, your care for your family is irrelevant. If you put your family first you are immediately corrupt, regardless of what happens.

Everyone who places family as their #1 value is corrupt! Get that.

simply because other families exist

[UnbornTao]

41 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

I admit that I am selfish, but life is hard.

Don't take it too personally - even though it is hard not to! 

Also, it's useful for us to hear it as a fact or neutral observation, rather than as a form of condemnation or blame. It's deeper than the common use of the term - it points to the self as our operating system in life. We may feel tempted to hear that as a negative, but it's just what's already so. Nothing necessarily wrong with that. 

[lostingenosmaze]

 

44 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Don't take it too personally - even though it is hard not to! 

Also, it's useful for us to hear it as a fact or neutral observation, rather than as a form of condemnation or blame.

Really hard for me to do that with Leo's rhetoric being the latter rather than the former, with no care for disclaimers or clarifications to boot. You'd think it'd be selfless for him to do that. Oh but nope, don't worry! Leo will probably double-down calling me taking it personally survival and corruption from Truth as well! Of course! How foolish of me, he already did put those legal disclaimers under the guidelines anyways, I should definitely shut my low-consciouness mouth 🤐

Edited September 15 by lostingenosmaze

[UnbornTao]

12 hours ago, lostingenosmaze said:

Really hard for me to do that with Leo's rhetoric being the latter rather than the former, with no care for disclaimers or clarifications to boot. You'd think it'd be selfless for him to do that. Oh but nope, don't worry! Leo will probably double-down calling me taking it personally survival and corruption from Truth as well! Of course! How foolish of me, he already did put those legal disclaimers under the guidelines anyways, I should definitely shut my low-consciouness mouth 🤐

We're all selfish. Embrace it. It's not a negative thing. Investigate the depths of your own selfishness. Since you seemed to react defensively to the suggestion, what was threatened? In essence, you: some aspect of experience you identify as yourself, or as part of you.

Edited September 16 by UnbornTao