Where do you go to meet women now that you're in your 40s, Leo?

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Cireeric said:

Not sure if I am a bit deluded here, but if I listen to Owen, and really earnestly try to get what he is saying I feel like he has some really deep experiential-understanding in some areas. Some of his insights seem to be gained by deep observation of experience. Of course he has some distortions and biases, especially related to Politics and Pickup Culture, but some of his experiential-insights are spot on. 

Of course he has valid insights and advice for successful living. But it's all corrupted by materialistic ego chasing.

It is not existential work. It is a conflation of survival with spiritual flavorings.

Look, it's fine for learning game and business. But the work I'm doing on another level.

Edited July 23 by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@meta_male Apologies for the confusing phrasing there - the condescending statement is in reference to the age question. As often this gives a good idea of what stage you are moving through in life (in this instance, regarding socialisation). My intention was to ask the question and not use age against the user (if they so wish to answer).

The ignorance part - more my attempt to illuminate there may be some issues going on. 

No ill intention or negative judgement from me 

 

[Hardkill]

39 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course he has valid insights and advice for successful living. But it's all corrupted but materialistic ego chasing.

It is not existential work. It is a conflation of survival with spiritual flavorings.

Look, it's fine for learning game and business. But the work I'm doing on another level.

I am very disappointed in Owen. In a way, he's turning out to be a phony.

Of course, people like him will say that at least they are winning and that most other people out there are just mediocre simps or lazy losers.

[Fabio]

@Hardkill  If you can stomach a bit more judgement, you should be able to go to the same places as 20s and 30s and chat with them. Girls in their 30s should be cool with 40s dude. Heck Ive seen a girl in her 20s kiss a guy who must be like 50 or more once because he protected her from a creep. Girls can be surprising that way. Dating apps probably make more sense, the paid ones to find a long term partner if you want a normal, healthy relationship with out filtering through the taken women, etc in cold approach. You can go to community events, festivals, concerts, I see people in their 40s at these events all the time. Even places with young people usually have people in 40s-70s age range. Social circle can be a way as well. 

[Joshe]

Hey! Don’t be making fun of us who are afraid to ask the waiter for ketchup! Shits hard on the yard. 

[meta_male]

11 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

Thanks, I have a feet on both sides. I'll get a tattoo.

Get two – one on each foot.

@Natasha Tori Maru Thanks for the clarification, I get where you're coming from now. It read as "I've had my social life. You haven't. You'll understand when you're older." I hope we all know there's issues, just not always as easy to pinpoint.

Curious though, what exactly are you saying us introverted guys are being ignorant about?

[Joshe]

7 hours ago, meta_male said:

Curious though, what exactly are you saying us introverted guys are being ignorant about?

I think she was saying that youngsters should not get it twisted and think that being a recluse while young is a good idea just because there are wise elders who prefer seclusion in their mid/late life years. 

As an introvert, I went through a somewhat social life but now, pushing 40, I've set things up to mostly be by myself. If I were to have always been a recluse, I can see how that would be problematic. 

You should earn your seclusion and choose it only when you've learned if/why it's the right move (which takes years of socializing and many relationships), rather than just skip to it, because you'll no doubt develop complexes if you skip it.

Edited Wednesday at 04:53 PM by Joshe

[zazen]

On 22/07/2025 at 11:26 AM, Leo Gura said:

Owen is lost in a delusion. 

He doesn't know what the world is.

Chasing sex like a narcissistic dog.

I've taken on the real world and found it fool's gold, as has every other intelligent mind.

Like a narcissistic dog you say .. 😂

Awkward way to stand and hold a hand while the mics in the other.. homie just trying to establish 45sec of kino contact to unlock cosmic levels of attraction and free love.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, zazen said:

Like a narcissistic dog you say .. 😂

 

This level of stupid is why I dispise socializing.

I cannot stomach how stupid people are. I would rather be alone with God.

Socializing is entertainment for stupid people. It took me a decade to realize that.

Just ask, What would entertain a baboon? And then do that with girls and they will love you.

Edited Wednesday at 11:31 PM by Leo Gura

[Rigel]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This level of stupid is why I dispise socializing.

I cannot stomach how stupid people are. I would rather be alone with God.

Socializing is entertainment for stupid people. It took me a decade to realize that.

Just ask, What would entertain a baboon? And then do that with girls and they will love you.

You’re so funny Leo!😂

[Lyubov]

I don’t care for socializing much either. Then again a close friend is an invaluable companion and asset in life. 

I sometimes like talking to strangers though and making a connection. There is something lost in this highly introvert anti social way of life that is sort of embraced here in the name of spiritual growth. 

I’ve had several awakenings through socializing as a catalyst. I think it just depends on how you live life yourself. If you aren’t living so well or honestly you often will attract similar people and since many people believe they need other people to complete them, they use relationships to fill an endless void that only the realization of their true spiritual value can break. So relationships sort of become this filler. It’s not exactly easy to let go of either since many people build their life around their relationships and family and often times they are bound to have some people who have more issues or lies in their life than you. 

In that sense then the only way to really entirely remove this issue is to remove relationships from your life, but do you want that??? A good analogy is trying to remove yourself from the modern food chain due to all the processed junk and chemicals and whatnot. You could start a farm but you probably don’t have the energy, resources or lifestyle to do that and you’re better riff just educating yourself on what to buy and making peace with the occasion junk you eat. I’d say something similar is needed for relationships if you value living in society, which most of you do when you realize the amount of work and resources it takes to live outside of society. 

 

Edited Wednesday at 11:55 PM by Lyubov

[Natasha Tori Maru]

7 hours ago, Joshe said:

I think she was saying that youngsters should not get it twisted and think that being a recluse while young is a good idea just because there are wise elders who prefer seclusion in their mid/late life years. 

As an introvert, I went through a somewhat social life but now, pushing 40, I've set things up to mostly be by myself. If I were to have always been a recluse, I can see how that would be problematic. 

You should earn your seclusion and choose it only when you've learned if/why it's the right move (which takes years of socializing and many relationships), rather than just skip to it, because you'll no doubt develop complexes if you skip it.

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[Eskilon]

4 hours ago, zazen said:

On 22/07/2025 at 7:26 AM, Leo Gura said:

Owen is lost in a delusion. 

He doesn't know what the world is.

Chasing sex like a narcissistic dog.

I've taken on the real world and found it fool's gold, as has every other intelligent mind.

Like a narcissistic dog you say .. 😂

Awkward way to stand and hold a hand while the mics in the other.. homie just trying to establish 45sec of kino contact to unlock cosmic levels of attraction and free love.

Gosh this is so cringe. Not even on a psychedelic I could behave like this 

[Joshe]

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

Gosh this is so cringe. Not even on a psychedelic I could behave like this 

Owens frame is so powerful, he rejects cringe. Cringe does not exist. 😂 it’s all about controlling your frame bro. 

[meta_male]

@Joshe I mostly agree, but I’d still argue: some people see through the BS early. Not everyone needs 40 years to know what doesn’t feel real. The risk of developing complexes goes both ways...faking extroversion just to earn solitude can leave you just as miserable.

For me, the sweet spot is social exposure to stay grounded and connected, without bending myself to fit in. 

[Schizophonia]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This level of stupid is why I dispise socializing.

I cannot stomach how stupid people are. I would rather be alone with God.

You say that like if there is no in-between between solitude and a scam pick up artist who looks like a psychotic.

It's up to you to find people with an IQ or at least a character similar to yours.

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Socializing is entertainment for stupid people. It took me a decade to realize that.

Again most people I know are calm and kind.

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Just ask, What would entertain a baboon? And then do that with girls and they will love you.

Most girls I know would be disgusted by behavior like that and call him retarded.

[Schizophonia]

Denmo is a much better pickup artist; he makes videos with pickup lines for laughs, but overall, it's immediately more "mature."

I know others in France with an even less playful style, much more sincere; simply approaching girls and showing interest in them kindly, almost professionally.
And they have much, MUCH more success than Owen, even though they're at least as average.

@Leo Gura

[meta_male]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Socializing is entertainment for stupid people. It took me a decade to realize that.

@Leo Gura Have you been out in any other places than the US in that decade? Owen is one of the most immature men out there from what I've seen. This type of behaviour got one of my friend's friend kicked out of a club...in winter without him being able to even get his jacket. No mercy for monkeys.

 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Retirement home, maybe? Way to go, grandpa