Why God Dreams Up Such Crappy Lives?

[Inliytened1]

On 6/19/2025 at 2:58 AM, SQAAD said:

I was watching a documentary about the lives of people who were "stuck" in mental institutions, some of the worst ones, like the one in Leros.

I felt very disturbed afterwards. Why God would dream up such a crappy life?

It would seem better to be a fly flying on a wall rather than being forgotten , unloved, and left to die on such crappy conditions.

I think noone can really answer this. Many just use denial as a coping mechanism.

Some moments in life are really really terrible but maybe it's not that bad. I don't know.

 

To that end why does God create illnesses like ALS?  Its brutal.  I guess it makes you appreciate just being able to breath.  I guess its because God doesnt have any bias towards survival..  its only crappy from your perspective not God's. 

Edited June 20 by Inliytened1

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, kbone said:

 

 

If a jar is dipped into the ocean and lifted up to take a good look at it, at what point does the water stop Being the ocean?

Your questions allude to assumptions. Look there.

It's different, Because a glass of water is a fraction of the ocean, whereas a form in infinity is the totality of infinity. That is, to answer Rasard, you are not so small; you are total, but you always, absolutely always, take on a form, since the absence of form is "never"; it never happens. So, why this form specifically? Well, why not? Because yes.

[Razard86]

7 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

I don't KNOW obviously but maybe because there is no other choice? Maybe it's the only way "life", "God"  or "existence" or whatever u want to call it can experience itself right now, at least in this dimension?

Yeah now people will say infinite can do anything etc...maybe it's true. Maybe not. 

 

 

Well I know one of the answers one can receive is that everything is the way it is, because that is how Reality is. But it doesn't answer why this way at this present moment. Let's just admit some characters in God's play get raw deals, relatively speaking.

[Razard86]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

To that end why does God create illnesses like ALS?  Its brutal.  I guess it makes you appreciate just being able to breath.  I guess its because God doesnt have any bias towards survival..  its only crappy from your perspective not God's. 

Exactly which is why me and God will be speaking soon. 

[kbone]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's extremely simple: what is possible appears. There is no intention, since there are no limits; any intentionality would be limiting. Possible means coherent with the totality of the form. What is coherent inevitably appears, because nothing prevents it.

I was simply poking at the appearing question, "What's the point in being so small is my only question." It arose from somewhere, and 'Infinite Intelligence' wouldn't ask such a question, but it would know from where it arose.

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

To that end why does God create illnesses like ALS?  Its brutal.  I guess it makes you appreciate just being able to breath.  I guess its because God doesnt have any bias towards survival..  its only crappy from your perspective not God's. 

It's not that god creates it. In the infinitely interconnected, synchronistic infinity, that possibility fits exactly into a given moment; therefore, it is ,the same as anything else that exists. They call it yin and yang, perfect symmetry, or, if you prefer, infinity infinitely reflected back upon itself.

There is no one in charge, because there are no limits. Absolute intelligence is the total coordination of manifested infinity. It is inevitable, a natural phenomenon that arises from the fact of limitlessness.

[theleelajoker]

17 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Well I know one of the answers one can receive is that everything is the way it is, because that is how Reality is. But it doesn't answer why this way at this present moment. Let's just admit some characters in God's play get raw deals, relatively speaking.

It does answer why it is the way it is right now, doesn't it? Because there it's the only way, no other choice, no crossroads, no options. 

And re the raw deals... definitely. You get nothing but agreement from me on that. 

[kbone]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's not that god creates it. In the infinitely interconnected, synchronistic infinity, that possibility fits exactly into a given moment; therefore, it is ,the same as anything else that exists. They call it yin and yang, perfect symmetry, or, if you prefer, infinity infinitely reflected back upon itself.

There is no one in charge, because there are no limits. Absolute intelligence is the total coordination of manifested infinity. It is inevitable, a natural phenomenon that arises from the fact of limitlessness.

To me that is an answer that 'another' lower mind may/may not understand or ingest as a pointer. It does require some semblance of a belief structure, no?

He's even mentioned more recently that he understands "everything is the way it is", but perhaps has not realized its 'Perfection', in which case the question would never arise in/as Infinite Intelligence

I do like the pure trans-rational take you allude to, though.

 

[Razard86]

7 minutes ago, kbone said:

Hmmm, OK. Thought it was a good metaphor with respect to "being small". Appears to have hit a nerve.

Lol I don't have a nerve to hit. Let's just say all that mystical guru stuff has its place. If someone asks me why are babies dying of starvation in Africa....I'm pretty sure mystical musings will be ill-received. When a person has a general inquiry about the relative domain they are looking for understanding for usually some brutal aspect of reality. 

For example they say Ramana Maharshi once had bugs excessively biting his feet and did not suffer. I have recently within this year through Spiritual Practice been able to go through extreme pain with no resistance, but that was a State of Conscious beyond human. When I was in it, it made me question why did suffering exist at all and the only response I got back was to understand strength.

God is too powerful, that is too much Love.

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, kbone said:

To me that is an answer that 'another' lower mind may/may not understand or ingest as a pointer. It does require some semblance of a belief structure, no?

He's even mentioned more recently that he understands "everything is the way it is", but perhaps has not realized its 'Perfection', in which case the question would never arise in/as Infinite Intelligence

I do like the pure trans-rational take you allude to, though.

 

I think it's obvious and inevitable. What other possibility could be possible? At the local level, there is creation and intention, but from an unlimited perspective, creation is just another arising that happens because it can.

Perfection or infinite intelligence is given by coherence. Any form is infinitely coherent; it has infinite ramifications absolutely synchronized with the whole. A minimal asynchrony results in infinite asynchrony, which is equivalent to that form not appearing; it is unmanifested potential.

The only difference between what appears and what does not is possibility, and possibility within an unlimited framework translates into relative synchrony. There is no form without its reflection; forms are relative, that is, in relation to another. Without relation, there is absence of form. The absence of form is outside of time; it does not occur. But it is just as real as form, since what is real is not form but its essence. Here is the point.

[kbone]

5 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Lol I don't have a nerve to hit. Let's just say all that mystical guru stuff has its place. If someone asks me why are babies dying of starvation in Africa....I'm pretty sure mystical musings will be ill-received. When a person has a general inquiry about the relative domain they are looking for understanding for usually some brutal aspect of reality. 

For example they say Ramana Maharshi once had bugs excessively biting his feet and did not suffer. I have recently within this year through Spiritual Practice been able to go through extreme pain with no resistance, but that was a State of Conscious beyond human. When I was in it, it made me question why did suffering exist at all and the only response I got back was to understand strength.

God is too powerful, that is too much Love.

Okey dokey, but I wasn't talking about anything mystical or otherworldly. Just something that might be noticed by anyone.

[Wilhelm44]

25 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Lol I don't have a nerve to hit. Let's just say all that mystical guru stuff has its place. If someone asks me why are babies dying of starvation in Africa....I'm pretty sure mystical musings will be ill-received. When a person has a general inquiry about the relative domain they are looking for understanding for usually some brutal aspect of reality. 

For example they say Ramana Maharshi once had bugs excessively biting his feet and did not suffer. I have recently within this year through Spiritual Practice been able to go through extreme pain with no resistance, but that was a State of Conscious beyond human. When I was in it, it made me question why did suffering exist at all and the only response I got back was to understand strength.

God is too powerful, that is too much Love.

I have heard Matt Kahn mention how his laptop once fell and the corner hit right on top of his foot, which should have been quite painful, but he felt nothing. I think there are certain dimensions of consciousness where pain is absent. Peter Ralston also talks about the possibility of dissolving physical pain. That being said though, Ramana developed cancer at the end of his life, and apparently clearly experienced some sense of physical suffering.

[SQAAD]

@Leo Gura

On 6/19/2025 at 2:54 PM, Leo Gura said:

It's even worse than you imagine.

Reality is such a profound thing that it cannot be made to suit human desires and needs.

That's the bottom line.

Reality cannot be designed around a finite self's needs. Like, you can't skew gravity to suit yourself just so you can avoid dying in a horrific plane crash. There's something much larger than you at stake.

I don't get it. Doesn't God want the best for everyone? 

What is that 'something' larger at stake?

You say that things are even worse. How one should react to this other than being terrified and scared for the rest of his life?

Edited June 20 by SQAAD

[SQAAD]

@PurpleTree Why not?

[SQAAD]

Everyone keeps telling how God does't care, yet they provide no explanation.

Why God would create something and just abandon it? Doesn't make sense.

https://youtu.be/WI2m1WW33H0?si=Wol2aON2rNHMbr2K

Edited June 20 by SQAAD

[Princess Arabia]

God is not a person or human nor does it see a person or a human. It doesn't care because caring is conditional. It doesn't not care either. It's energy, and energy has no bounds. It's not seeing things in a biased form or does it even see things. IT IS ALL THINGS. So your God is not the God that is. Your God is conditional, limited, personal, bounded, biased and should and shouldn't be and do. It's energy in seeming form and is all empty. Empty of substance. God is all there is and it doesn't care about your whining and troubles about the world. It also is the whining and the troubles of the world. If you had no sense of self, you wouldn't care or not care either, there would just be WHAT IS. Take that message or leave it and continue to suffer. Keep being neurotic, biased and selfish. Life doesn't care, it'll show you this eventually. Eventually when you grow tired of yourself.

[Wilhelm44]

11 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

Everyone keeps telling how God does't care, yet they provide no explanation.

Why God would create something and just abandon it? Doesn't make sense.

https://youtu.be/WI2m1WW33H0?si=Wol2aON2rNHMbr2K

I dont think it's true that God doesn't care or just abandoned. Think of it like this, your point of view on life right now means the world to you, but to me your point of view doesnt even exist. That says something about how serious we take our own point of view. God's point of view must be caring with a capital C. Usually we only realize that after the fact.

[Javfly33]

@Wilhelm44 @Keryo Koffa You think delayed transmission of energies within the field is possible?

[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

@Wilhelm44 @Keryo Koffa You think delayed transmission of energies within the field is possible?

What do you mean by 'delayed transmission of energies' ? Can you give an example ?

[Keryo Koffa]

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

@Wilhelm44 @Keryo Koffa You think delayed transmission of energies within the field is possible?