Humanity Has Failed

[Someone here]

11 minutes ago, yetineti said:

Maybe if you talked to me like a person and didn’t make up words to try and communicate something you don’t understand to someone you don’t know, we’d have better communication.

It is you who doesn't want to understand because what I'm saying is nothing but truth .

You are not showing enough respect or even desire to understand you just want to win an argument. So screw this .

[yetineti]

@Someone here

Nobody believes you.

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At least I have something to shoot for and I’m not aimlessly calling people names on an Internet forum and then gaslighting them, and telling them they don’t care, etc.

Edited Wednesday at 05:14 PM by yetineti

[Apparition of Jack]

Israel vs Hamas is like an unstopped force meets an immovable object.

Israel - and especially the more fanatical elements in it - will refuse to relinquish Israel at any cost and are prepared to wipe Palestine off the map to achieve it. They’re convinced only Israel can keep Jews safe from another Holocaust (and in a world rapidly seeing the rise of neo-Nazism it’s hard not to see why) so they’d never surrender it.

Hamas (and Palestinians as a whole) on the other hand (rightfully) see Israel as the settler-colonial project that it is and will never forgive some random wealthy white European nation sprouting up on the land that has been theirs for over 1,400 years, not to mention the 75+ years of displacements, imprisonments, murders, checkpoints, wars, etc.

Not to mention the religious zealotry on both sides who see each other as the spawn of Satan destined to be destroyed during some final climatic battle or whatever. 
 

It has to be one of the complex and screwed up geopolitical hotzones of the modern age. There’s very, very few easy answers here. I basically try to ignore it completely it’s so hard to dissect.

Edited Wednesday at 05:29 PM by Apparition of Jack

[yetineti]

@Someone here

One minute nobody cares, the next nobody should.

You need to make up your mind. 

You do not sound healthy.

You have been flipping from extremes.

 

 

[Leo Gura]

@yetineti Stop provoking. Just let it go.

[yetineti]

I need help.

[AION]

Palestinians are SD red and perhaps even lower. To deal with such neighbors like the Palestinians, one needs to speak their language that they understand so to say. Palestinians people can be snakes. They rebelled against the Ottomans to help the British and then got double crossed and their lands given away. Hard to have sympathy for such people (most pro Palestinian people would have a different opinion if they were the ones who were eating Hamas rockets everyday). Having said that Israel has gone too far.  I’m not supporter of Israel and I wouldn’t care if it exist or not but for the Jews it is important. They don’t want to live in constant terror and if Hamas gets stronger that would be the case. 

Edited Wednesday at 05:42 PM by AION

[Schizophonia]

On the contrary, humanity has never been so peaceful overall.
Even if this kind of things still happen indeed.

[Nemra]

34 minutes ago, AION said:

I’m not supporter of Israel and I wouldn’t care if it exist or not but for the Jews it is important. They don’t want to live in constant terror and if Hamas gets stronger that would be the case. 

Early Zionists wanted to create the state by knowingly going against Palestinians.

They have led Jews to the current situation.

Edited Wednesday at 06:14 PM by Nemra

[Rafael Thundercat]

30 minutes ago, AION said:

Palestinians are SD red and perhaps even lower. To deal with such neighbors like the Palestinians, one needs to speak their language that they understand so to say. Palestinians people can be snakes. They rebelled against the Ottomans to help the British and then got double crossed and their lands given away. Hard to have sympathy for such people (most pro Palestinian people would have a different opinion if they were the ones who were eating Hamas rockets everyday). Having said that Israel has gone too far.  I’m not supporter of Israel and I wouldn’t care if it exist or not but for the Jews it is important. They don’t want to live in constant terror and if Hamas gets stronger that would be the case. 

Well, you must read a book called A Line in the Sand by James Barr.

Britain actually manipulated the game to get dominon, as always did everywhere their tentacles extented.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMahon–Hussein_correspondence

[AION]

16 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Early Zionists wanted to create the state by going against Palestinians.

They have led Jews to live in terror.

Palestinians literally sold their lands to Jews for money 😭.. they made their bed, now they have to lay in it. Israel is not going anyway any time soon so Arabs need to find a solution that includes the existence of Israel. 
I think most people in this thread underestimate how difficult SD red people are. You can’t reason with them. 

[Raze]

11 minutes ago, AION said:

Palestinians literally sold their lands to Jews for money 😭.. they made their bed, now they have to lay in it. Israel is not going anyway any time soon so Arabs need to find a solution that includes the existence of Israel. 
I think most people in this thread underestimate how difficult SD red people are. You can’t reason with them. 

No they didn’t. Zionists colonized the land and ethnically cleansed them, now it occupies them. 

Palestinians have been reasonable, they didn’t even have a military when zionists formed militias and started slaughtering them, they spent years under occupation without fighting back, they’ve tried peaceful protest and just get killed, the arab peace initiative was offered but Israel rejects it to further occupy them. 
 

Hamas rockets are not the problem, they are a reaction to the problem. Israel has been killing and subjugating them for decades before Hamas even existed.

Edited Wednesday at 06:27 PM by Raze

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

And create a Palestinian state in which they will be oppressed by an another Arab leadership similarly they have right now. Freedom won't be here.

Nope, life under other dictatorships is far superior to what israel does to Palestinians. You’d be way better off living in Egypt or Jordan.

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nope. It just increases their misery.

That’s a historically illiterate perspective. Most freedom struggles had upsurges of violence before they were achieved. Examples being slavery, the civil rights movement, British India, or apartheid south Africa. 

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

No. This is a radical sector who is now controlling Israel.

You can stop this act. We all saw you cheering this on for months. We see the polls showing pluralities of Israelis support ethnic cleaning and forced starvation.

Netanayhu is representative of Israeli society, what they don’t like about him is his domestic policies and corruption.

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Nivsch said:

Netanyahu is doing a horrible war right now which makes everything worse for everyone (not for neutrality sake but really), but the killing ratio, empirically speaking, is similar to America's wars and a bit smaller. Still very bad and had to stop many months ago, but honesty is also needed.

I’ve debunked this to you multiple times now. You are either delusional or lying if you still think this.

https://aoav.org.uk/2024/casualties-in-gaza-israels-claims-of-50-combatant-deaths-dont-add-up-at-least-74-of-the-dead-are-civilians/

The ratio in Gaza is much worse than Syria, which was an actual massive war for over a decade with many sides and much worse ratio wise than the US in iraq or Afghanistan. This is a one sided bombardment.

Speaking of an Israeli genocide scholar who repeatedly denied it was a genocide interviewed a Dutch newspaper and not only said it was a genocide but said there seems to be a consensus in his field about it.

https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2025/05/14/zeven-gerenommeerde-wetenschappers-vrijwel-eensgezind-israel-pleegt-in-gaza-genocide-a4893293
 

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Professor Ugur Umit Ungor of the University of Amsterdam and NIOD Institute for War, Holocaust and Genocide Studies said that while there are certainly researchers who say it is not genocide, "I don't know them".

The Dutch paper reviewed 25 recent academic articles published in the Journal of Genocide Research, the field’s leading journal, and found that “all eight academics from the field of genocide studies see genocide or at least genocidal violence in Gaza”.

You can stop acting like you’re different from Netanyahu or the right in Israel, on this issue you are as much of a monster as them.

 

Edited Wednesday at 06:36 PM by Raze

[Nemra]

3 minutes ago, AION said:

Palestinians literally sold their lands to Jews for money 😭..

Few of them may have, but that doesn't excuse the intention of Zionists.

11 minutes ago, AION said:

Israel is not going anyway any time soon so Arabs need to find a solution that includes the existence of Israel. 

So Netanyahu is willing to solve the situation. Give me a break.

[Nivsch]

5 minutes ago, Nemra said:

the intention of Zionists.

Jews are not a monolite.

[Nemra]

4 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Jews are not a monolite.

Haven't I clarified that I'm not talking about most Jews?

Also, I was talking about the early leaders of the project.

Edited Wednesday at 06:40 PM by Nemra

[AION]

People need to let go of the past to make amends. Otherwise there will be never ending bloodshed until one of the populations go extinct.