Humanity Has Failed

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Raze said:

As I have already told you at least eight times, there is a peace deal on the table that every relevant country is signed on which Israel unilaterally rejects and gets the US to block. 

Every year at the U.N. general assembly a vote on the two state solution appears. It’s not asking for Israel to abolish its ethnic supremacy state, just to stop the occupation of millions of people without rights. Guess who votes no and who vetoes it every time.

For that to happen, the Likud must lose the elections, and for that to happen, the Palestinians must renounce violence, which serves no purpose at all.

[Nivsch]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

For that to happen, the Likud must lose the elections, and for that to happen, the Palestinians must renounce violence, which serves no purpose at all.

+1 🧡

[Twentyfirst]

13 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

For that to happen, the Likud must lose the elections, and for that to happen, the Palestinians must renounce violence, which serves no purpose at all.

Palestinians are not violent people. They are religious educated family centered people 

[Breakingthewall]

49 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Palestinians are not violent people. They are religious educated family centered people 

Palestinians think they must fight the Zionist invaders, and the way to fight is through war. It's normal to think this way. All cultures have waged war. You may think it's justified because there are reasons for it, but it actually works against them. It strengthens the radical branch of Israel, and their violence has no real effect in terms of expelling Jews or obtaining benefits. On the contrary, it allows radicals to win elections. For Palestinians, the most dignified thing is to be a martyr. It may make them proud as a group, but it gives them no real benefit. It's exactly what people like Ben Gvir want. They're playing their game.

[Twentyfirst]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Palestinians think they must fight the Zionist invaders, and the way to fight is through war. It's normal to think this way. All cultures have waged war. You may think it's justified because there are reasons for it, but it actually works against them. It strengthens the radical branch of Israel, and their violence has no real effect in terms of expelling Jews or obtaining benefits. On the contrary, it allows radicals to win elections. For Palestinians, the most dignified thing is to be a martyr. It may make them proud as a group, but it gives them no real benefit. It's exactly what people like Ben Gvir want. They're playing their game.

You think your viewpoint is "realistic" but it's actually the opposite 

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

You think your viewpoint is "realistic" but it's actually the opposite 

Why? What will the Palestinians achieve with attacks?

[Twentyfirst]

14 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Why? What will the Palestinians achieve with attacks?

They have no other choice 

[Breakingthewall]

19 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

They have no other choice 

They're doing exactly what the Zionist far-right wants. As you know, Hamas received money from Bibi. Why? Because Hamas is Bibi's best friend, its number one fan. Their mosquito-like attacks don't do any real harm to Israel; they only serve to inflate Palestinian pride and legitimize the Zionist Nazis, without touching Israeli infrastructure or causing any damage. But Palestinians are children, and they're not looking for a strategic move, but rather to inflate their pride. Every time they inflate their pride by doing stupid things like setting off shitty rockets, Bibi toasts with Smotritch and Ben Givir, and they send a few more settlers to west bank

Anyway, there is an exception: the 7oct. Who planned this knew that the reaction of Israel was going to be extreme, then the plan was martyrdom of the people of gaza to destroy the image of Israel. It's a extremely brave movement that must be respected, even I don't share doing this, I think that in Gaza Hamas win because around the world Israel is going to be seen as absolutely evil society. The price is high but they are willing to pay 

This is a war very difficult to understand . Are the Palestinian going to get anything with this war? Maybe yes

Edited June 10 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

Nah almost sure Hamas don't win , Israeli society will see the destruction of Gaza as necessary after October 7, Netanyahu will be considered a strong leader capable of doing what is necessary, the world will protest tepidly for a few months, and then forget everything, and the Palestinians will be worse off than before.

Edited June 10 by Breakingthewall