Ruthless Women

[SQAAD]

2 days ago i went out for a walk with a woman, that was kinda pursuing me.

Her interest level was low and there were also some other things i didn't like (like dismissing something deep, i said once).

But because she was texting me, i arranged that we go outside.

When i meet her, she tells me that in like 30 minutes, she has to go for a dance class (in other words: you are the least important option for me, so i won't give you the time of the day).

This was a big turn off and a waste of time. She will probably contact me again 2-3 weeks from now (if she doesn't find Chad or Bryce or some other guy who will be the "perfect" one).

This time, i won't ever see this woman again. This just shows me how ruthless and not caring some women can be.

There are very good reasons why many men end up hating women. Very good reasons..

[meta_male]

@SQAAD I get why you're frustrated but honestly, this is the victim mindset talking. If you stay in it, it will just keep dragging you down more = no women for you. You gotta find a way to move past it, man. Your post shows you have poor boundaries: despite noticing her low interest you still decided to meet her, that's on you. If this woman isn't excited about you then there's nothing you can do to force it, and it says nothing about women as a whole.

1 hour ago, SQAAD said:

There are very good reasons why many men end up hating women. Very good reasons..

What good reasons? How is blaming women helping you? Is it getting you respect? Some things to think about...

[Schizophonia]

@SQAAD Don't recreate your humiliation trauma again + so yes delete her and never force it again with girls.

Read up on Neville Goddard or other Christian Science thinkers, even if it's just for simple self-help advice.

 

Edited April 28 by Schizophonia

[EternalForest]

I don't understand what she did wrong. You're allowed to refuse the hangout if its too short, just make plans for a better time when you're both available.

[something_else]

4 hours ago, SQAAD said:

When i meet her, she tells me that in like 30 minutes, she has to go for a dance class (in other words: you are the least important option for me, so i won't give you the time of the day).

She had a dance class booked and you think she should cancel it to spend time with some guy she barely knows? That's giving off extremely controlling vibes.

She's not telling you that you're not important, she just has something else booked. Be chill about it and arrange another time to see her in the future.

 

[integral]

It’s very strange for her to ask you out to hang out only for 30 minutes.. so I don’t blame you that is pretty ridiculous

You had to prepare yourself and then travel there so clearly she should’ve told you in advance. She knew in advance that this was gonna be short, but didn’t tell you. 

But next time instead, ask her to go to a movie and plan something, be strategic with this.

Edited April 28 by integral

[Yimpa]

Rejection is like having your heart torn right open. Like a soldier who's taken shrapnel to the chest on the battlefield, you're left exposed and vulnerable. The fortress you've built around yourself crumbles like a bunker under heavy artillery. Dismissle strikes with precision, sniping through the gaps in your armor that you thought were well-protected.

[SQAAD]

@meta_male

6 hours ago, meta_male said:

@SQAAD I get why you're frustrated but honestly, this is the victim mindset talking. If you stay in it, it will just keep dragging you down more = no women for you. You gotta find a way to move past it, man. Your post shows you have poor boundaries: despite noticing her low interest you still decided to meet her, that's on you. If this woman isn't excited about you then there's nothing you can do to force it, and it says nothing about women as a whole.

What good reasons? How is blaming women helping you? Is it getting you respect? Some things to think about...

Not victim mentality at all. But Truth-Mentality instead..

You didn't read the post carefully. Bottom line is: many women will give guys preferential, non-fair treatment.

Edited April 28 by SQAAD

[SQAAD]

@Schizophonia

5 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

@SQAAD Don't recreate your humiliation trauma again + so yes delete her and never force it again with girls.

Read up on Neville Goddard or other Christian Science thinkers, even if it's just for simple self-help advice.

 

I did not force anything. When a girl is reaching to you, you assume she is interested and arrange a date.

I don't need any more self-help theory. I need more action primarily.

[SQAAD]

@Applegarden8

5 hours ago, Applegarden8 said:

Just because they are into you for their own reasons, something deep or problem solving talk can be a massive turnoff. They might feel some way you make them when they just met you, they will have a negative projection of how you are. It's too early for that.

She wrote to you, that's a big thing acctually.

You can’t blame her for having options in that phase. We are all from used car dealership.

Women are ruthless in some sense, yes. But so are men, in different ways. If you didn't like her appearance, you would reject her or not even spot her.

I am ruthless for looking at very specific things to the point I may not have a partner like she has to do music to some extent.

This is the mating game. It's ruthless. But that's what it is. You get the love for what you do or qualities you have firstly and then maybe for the experience or intimacy or your personality/quirks and there are competitors.

I had one favorite, which I really vibe with, but she didn't respond to me usually, even so I went on a date with her that and I had to confirm on that day with her so it even happened.

And I was not forthcoming enough or I didn't want her enough. I underestand that she felt very frustrated, because many men hit on her and they are "easier" and know what to do. etc.

Try social group method where you meet women that are familiar to you and spend more time knowing/interacting with each other. That will make things easier.

It's like starcraft multi-player, first you have a standardized build order where you get to meet her carefully which is point A and then personalize with her which is point B (point where yoh can build your own builds, because you have survived the early game).

No. It's not the same. I tend to treat people in a fair way. I would never leave earlier on a date just because i don't like the other person. Where is your love for your fellow human, if you do that kind of petty behavior.. This is what disapointed me the most.

Edited April 28 by SQAAD

[meta_male]

27 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

Not victim mentality at all. But Truth-Mentality instead..

You didn't read the post carefully. Bottom line is: many women will give guys preferential, non-fair treatment.

Good luck defending your world view, the truth doesn't care how unfair you think it is. Life has a way of waking people up sooner or later. You will see.

[Schizophonia]

32 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

@Schizophonia

I did not force anything. When a girl is reaching to you, you assume she is interested and arrange a date.

I don't need any more self-help theory. I need more action primarily.

If you don't have enough fun with a girl, don't go, that's what I meant.

[Hojo]

@SQAAD

8 hours ago, SQAAD said:

2 days ago i went out for a walk with a woman, that was kinda pursuing me.

Her interest level was low and there were also some other things i didn't like (like dismissing something deep, i said once).

But because she was texting me, i arranged that we go outside.

When i meet her, she tells me that in like 30 minutes, she has to go for a dance class (in other words: you are the least important option for me, so i won't give you the time of the day).

This was a big turn off and a waste of time. She will probably contact me again 2-3 weeks from now (if she doesn't find Chad or Bryce or some other guy who will be the "perfect" one).

This time, i won't ever see this woman again. This just shows me how ruthless and not caring some women can be.

There are very good reasons why many men end up hating women. Very good reasons..

You can know your involvement with the woman is way more than you are telling us just by reading contradicting statements

the woman was pursuing me her interest level is low (?) and I am already angry that she dismissed something deep I told them before

She was texting me so I arranged that we meet up ( You wanted this way more than her)

We then meet and she says we have to end our meeting in a very short time and this angers me because it makes me feel less important (this shows you are very interested in this woman and she means more to you than you are putting on)

This is now a waste of time because the woman has to leave and we cant spend more time together ( I have to be alone thinking about them I dont like that)

Now I will never see her again because I am upset that she isnt giving me the attention I feel I deserve ( this is just a cope instead of crying that you are upset. Basically you determining when the relationship will end not them.) If you find yourself spiralling like this everytime you stop hanging out you are in a bad spot.

I hate all women now

 

The reason I know what you are saying is cause I have been there. You are obsessed. It is slippery slope to madness. You are so in love with woman you made it bigger than you. Its late stage relationship ending and you dont like it.

The woman does like you and you are in a rough spot and she is testing you, giving you time still but very small time. She is seeing if you keep freaking out and getting upset and you are. A woman cant be with a man who lets her emotions and life effect him so much its dangerous and you are showing her dangerous behaviour. Whether you think you can push these emotions aside or not during times together you cant and she can feel it.

If you and the woman got together now these emotions dont randomly go away it would just get worse. Life will be her stepping on eggshells and you ruminating about everything.

You gave the woman something you dont know how to get back and she cant give it back. And now you are going oh shit what do I do I need that to be happy. You dont even want the woman you want the metaphysical love for woman that you gave her and is now leaving with.

Edited April 28 by Hojo

[Majed]

@SQAAD What i am starting to understand is that there's such a thing as female nature. 

We were conditioned to treat people decently... However many things society taught us do not apply when it comes to dating. 

Same way men won't just give you a committed loving relationship with a cool lifestyle, money, abundance... just because you treat them decently. 

You need to have the attributes men wants mainly good looks and beauty. And also understand that men just want primarily and mainly only sex from hot girls. That's male nature. Hating men for it is stupid. Well similar to that is understanding the reality of female nature. And stop expecting anything else, stop being idealistic and utopian. This is maturity as opposed to foolishness. 

Edited April 28 by Majed

[Majed]

🔵 Male Nature (in Dating)

Primary Driver: Sexual access to attractive women.

Visual: Men are wired to be highly responsive to youth, beauty, health signs (clear skin, feminine body shape, bright eyes, etc.).

Low Filtering: Men are biologically willing to have sex with many women but are more selective when it comes to committing.

Commitment is selective: Men will commit only if they see exceptional value beyond looks (loyalty, kindness, peace, admiration, emotional connection).

Emotions & Resources: Men typically don't give away their long-term resources (time, money, protection) without serious reason.

🔴 Female Nature (in Dating)

Primary Driver: Survival and security for herself and potential offspring — now translated into emotional security, lifestyle, high-quality genes.

Hypergamy: Women date and mate across and up in value (status, resources, attractiveness, charisma). Rarely do women seek to "date down."

Filtering: Women are biologically selective; 80% of women historically choose 20% of men ("Pareto principle" in dating).

Testing (Shit Tests): Women subconsciously test men for strength, confidence, leadership. Not to be cruel, but to protect themselves from weak partners.

Attention vs. Commitment: Women enjoy male attention, but only commit to men who spark deep emotional desire — mere kindness is not enough.

Emotional Impact: Women are moved by emotions, not logic. They don't rationalize attraction; they feel it or they don’t.

✅ Major Points of Female Nature:

Women are attracted to confidence, not neediness.

Women want to feel emotions (excitement, mystery, safety, admiration) — not be told logical reasons to like you.

Women value social proof — being desired by other women often makes you more attractive.

Women will date up in value but may settle only when they feel their options have decreased (age, life stage, etc.).

If she doesn’t feel it, she won’t commit — no matter how good you are on paper.

❗Big Mistakes Men Make:

Believing that being "nice" is enough.

Resenting women for their nature rather than understanding and adapting.

Acting needy, insecure, or supplicating (which kills attraction).

Expecting fairness; dating is not "fair" — it’s biological and emotional.

⚡In Short

Men want beauty + access + peace.

Women want strength + status + emotional experience.

And both are what they are — no need to hate, just understand.

-Generated from ai.

[Majed]

To get girls. You need to interact with girls. Part of female nature is that women go off what they feel, not what is logically the best option. Women are like drug addicts, and the drug is called attraction, which is emotional, not logical. When they want their dose, drug addicts will often veer towards criminal behavior to get it. Imagine telling a drug addict who needs his dose, “oh but you know drugs are bad for you” No! He wants his dose no matter what. And that’s how women tend to behave when it comes to men they’re attracted to. And the drug is the emotions you made her feel, which she’s biologically wired to create attraction in her towards you. Treat women like drug addicts and you're the dealer, dealing emotions.

[Eskilon]

@SQAAD Man, I feel you, rejection is rough. But I'm learning that the path in life while interacting with humans, be it women, or man is compassion.

Most human beings are selfish, arrogant devils with little to zero empathy for the other. And it is so because their sense of self is really, really small, and their spiritual/emotional development is almost nonexistent.

But you see, like @Applegarden8 said above, you too probably demonstrate this kind of behaviour in your life, like if you see a fat chick that you don't have any attraction towards, you will probably discard her as if it's nothing. That too is ruthless. This is nothing but the very contracted and selective ego love.

What I'm saying is not that you shouldn't be upset about this, you should. We are in the dark ages of connection still, an era of devils running around. But, as much as it is hard, try to see rejection as compassion aswell, life is hard, to you to be able to stand and be on this forum is nothing but a miracle. Try to understand the very nature of desire, both yours and of others. And see why it is so selective. Forgive others for their devilry, humanity is still learning. Don't try to seek happiness and fullfilment only in women; you will fail miserably, try to look within more. If anything man, my love to you for this troubled situation that you are experiencing. 

Edited April 28 by Eskilon

[BlessedLion]

10 hours ago, SQAAD said:

2 days ago i went out for a walk with a woman, that was kinda pursuing me.

Her interest level was low and there were also some other things i didn't like (like dismissing something deep, i said once).

But because she was texting me, i arranged that we go outside.

When i meet her, she tells me that in like 30 minutes, she has to go for a dance class (in other words: you are the least important option for me, so i won't give you the time of the day).

This was a big turn off and a waste of time. She will probably contact me again 2-3 weeks from now (if she doesn't find Chad or Bryce or some other guy who will be the "perfect" one).

This time, i won't ever see this woman again. This just shows me how ruthless and not caring some women can be.

There are very good reasons why many men end up hating women. Very good reasons..

These are pretty weak reasons to dump her. You’re placing yourself in too high a pedestal 

[The Renaissance Man]

@BlessedLion It's not like they were together or anything though. Having all those those red flags appear in 30 minutes... it seems like a good reason to dump her actually. And the 30 minute thing is clearly disrespectful and slimy, waiting for him to meet her to tell him.

8 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

These are pretty weak reasons to dump her. You’re placing yourself in too high a pedestal 

Edited April 28 by The Renaissance Man

[LordFall]

@BlessedLion Disagreed, I would also dump a woman who randomly makes me time to hangout with me for 30 mins here and there instead of being more available.

@SQAAD Also agreed that you're coming at it from a crybaby victim mindset. Why don't you start working out and making some money so you start being more high value? If you're an average man you don't have much value to offer to the average woman, it's just sperm wars and evolutionary psychology.