Truth About Pornography | Dr. Jordan Peterson & Dr. Andrew Huberman

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[PsychedelicEagle]

Interesting analogue they mentioned comparing porn to hyperpalable, ultra-processed foods.

Also, comparing convenience stores to pharmacies, in that they sell more chemicals than anything else.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

This crusade against porn by these various influencers is so weird.

[Leo Gura]

They should do a video on whether having a rotation of 6 girlfriends changes your brain.

[vibv]

I'm against demonizing things. There is good, sensual and beautiful porn as well as a lot of really bad porn.

[Majed]

@Leo Gura If you don't have a partner. How are you supposed to meet your sexual needs without porn? Plus porn can be very interesting in an exploratory sense to find your fetishes, your sexual identity and orientation...

[vibv]

1 hour ago, Majed said:

@Leo Gura If you don't have a partner. How are you supposed to meet your sexual needs without porn? Plus porn can be very interesting in an exploratory sense to find your fetishes, your sexual identity and orientation...

Porn tends to skew your perception towards the visual aspect of sexuality. You can explore your sexuality on your own without porn (by using your imagination), but that gets harder as you grow more accustomed to that easy dopamine spike porn gives you.

[Ero]

I have a suspicion all the no-porn/ no-fap people are low-testosterone. For men with very high T levels, unless you have Hubberman's arrangement, I don't think y'all realize how distracting and all-consuming it becomes unless you have ways of releasing. 

[Aaron p]

just like psychedelics there is massive potential for harm in porn. highly developed minds might not see the potential, but holy shit...ch1dr3nexposed to porn for example (common) is very bad. there are so many ways it can be bad. it should be treated like a legalised drug. not illegal but extremely carefully managed

Edited January 8 by Aaron p

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4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

They should do a video on whether having a rotation of 6 girlfriends changes your brain.

It is all natural so I don't see a problem with it. If you can get 6 gf's in this day and age, you deserved it.

[AION]

3 hours ago, Michael569 said:

I found the debate really painful to listen to. Its like they are completely incompatible as podcast partners. Andrew kept bringing everything into neurobiology, which I understand is his niche but it just felt so out of place so many times. Despite them being two great intellectuals, together they don't work too well, I gave up about 45 minutes in 

Interesting. To me it was a match in heaven: expert of biology and psychology in the same room. Probably they said couple of things that torn on your current porn use. I'm assuming this but it could be the case.

[PsychedelicEagle]

3 hours ago, AION said:

It is all natural so I don't see a problem with it. If you can get 6 gf's in this day and age, you deserved it.

This is the epitome of stage orange self-rationalization.

[AION]

3 hours ago, PsychedelicEagle said:

This is the epitome of stage orange self-rationalization.

It was sarcasm so I don’t know what kind of epitome it is 🤦🏾

[Something Funny]

@Michael569 what do you like about JP? 

[Princess Arabia]

23 hours ago, vibv said:

I'm against demonizing things. There is good, sensual and beautiful porn as well as a lot of really bad porn.

Well, you just demonized porn.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

People keep focusing on the negative aspects of porn but they keep forgetting one thing. Is that there are actually not a lot of things that could realistically substitute porn. And not even a girlfriend or a wife can be included to that list of things, in my humble opinion. As a woman is not obligated to sleep with you just because you need it (and that's fine of course). She also wouldn't really give you that variety that you could want. Only something like a very realistic sex doll or sex dolls could actually replace porn, possibly

Edited January 9 by NewKidOnTheBlock

[AION]

Porn preparing you for sex is like saying fake fruit is preparing you for real fruit  while ruining your taste buds 

[Majed]

@vibv Yeah i definitely agree that using your imagination is way harder than porn. 

[Sugarcoat]

In my own experience of consuming porn in my past. I feel it gives you so much pleasure, but then what happens is that your brain gets bored of the same content and you don’t get that much pleasure from it anymore (it’s like how the dopamine centers work or something). So what happens is you need to change the content to gain pleasure. I don’t know how men function, maybe they can switch between different women and gain pleasure from the novelty of that. But what happened to me, and I know that I’m far from the only one, is that I needed more and more hardcore content to feel pleasure. So I (my dopamine centers or something) became desensitized to the normal content. So it can kinda ruin your healthy sexuality in that way. It’s always a risk. 
 

You can prevent this from happening by consuming the porn in moderation, although for me even if I consumed it moderately I still experienced this escalation so I don’t know if that would work. 
 

Doesn’t necessarily mean porn is bad, but it can give you too much dopamine and just fatigue your brain so you need more and more intense stuff

[vibv]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Well, you just demonized porn.

In my book demonizing means to make it out as the root of evil.