I feel too "ugly" to go out and pickup girls

[Primal Experiment]

Context : I'm not ugly, probably anywhere from 5.5 to 6.5 depending on stress, lifestyle, body fat, hair health ect. 

But I'm only attracted to sexy women. 

I have no desire to fuck average girls. 

Which isn't a problem in theory. 

But is it a losing battle, or even cringe for an average guy to try to pick up hot women like 8's ? 

I've got nothing against average women and I dont think i'm above them, it's just that I feel nothing around them.

I need at least 2/3 of tits + ass + pretty face, and face must be minimum 6.5, huge ass and tits will forgive the 6.5 face. 

TDLR, do hot women date down in looks (an 8 dating a 6), or am I running into a closed door? 

Please don't comment if you don't have experience with attractive women or you're a chad, your perspective is useless here, only 6.5 and below looks guys with good game and experience comment please 

Edited October 18, 2024 by Primal Experiment

[LordFall]

You should add more than cold approach to your repertoire. Social media and social circle will help you bang hotties more than spamming cold approaches. In my experience cold approach works best on average girls and tourists. 

[Leo Gura]

It's certainly doable, but takes work.

Your inner game is real bad.

[Raze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N-pQh8krs0

https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-much-do-looks-matter-romantic-success  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLsUnv50Hq4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmiNoCV-i84

 

[Princess Arabia]

Average looking guys are the target; but they don't know this and believe otherwise, so they self-sabotage. Just like you're asking here and mentioning things that really doesn't matter to a hottie. Yes, some but not most. You'll see hot women with short guys, broke guys, not so good looking guys, etc, but you will rarely find them with low-confident guys or shy guys or reserved guys. It takes a very courageous and confident average looking guy to approach a hottie and that's where the attraction comes in, not necessarily in his muscles or height, height is more important than muscles and varies from female to female but a short guy still has a chance.

IT all comes down to how the guy sees himself in relation to that woman because the projection will be obvious to her. Now, she either wants to know about him more or get him away from her. All depends on how he sees himself.

Edited October 19, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Primal Experiment said:

But I'm only attracted to sexy women. 

I have no desire to fuck average girls. 

Which isn't a problem in theory. 

This is where you have an advantage.....

 

2 hours ago, Primal Experiment said:

But is it a losing battle, or even cringe for an average guy to try to pick up hot women like 8's ? 

....and this is where you don't....the self doubt and limiting beliefs. Work on this part and you'll be good to go, just make sure you really believe it and that it's possible.

[fopylo]

12 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Average looking guys are the target; but they don't know this and believe otherwise, so they self-sabotage. Just like you're asking here and mentioning things that really doesn't matter to a hottie. Yes, some but not most. You'll see hot women with short guys, broke guys, not so good looking guys, etc, but you will rarely find them with low-confident guys or shy guys or reserved guys. It takes a very courageous and confident average looking guy to approach a hottie and that's where the attraction comes in, not necessarily in his muscles or height, height is more important than muscles and varies from female to female but a short guy still has a chance.

IT all comes down to how the guy sees himself in relation to that woman because the projection will be obvious to her. Now, she either wants to know about him more or get him away from her. All depends on how he sees himself.

WORD.

This is so true.

That's also very cool hearing it from a woman.

Edited October 19, 2024 by fopylo

[Tenebroso]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Average looking guys are the target; but they don't know this and believe otherwise, so they self-sabotage. Just like you're asking here and mentioning things that really doesn't matter to a hottie. Yes, some but not most. You'll see hot women with short guys, broke guys, not so good looking guys, etc, but you will rarely find them with low-confident guys or shy guys or reserved guys. It takes a very courageous and confident average looking guy to approach a hottie and that's where the attraction comes in, not necessarily in his muscles or height, height is more important than muscles and varies from female to female but a short guy still has a chance.

IT all comes down to how the guy sees himself in relation to that woman because the projection will be obvious to her. Now, she either wants to know about him more or get him away from her. All depends on how he sees himself.

So you have to believe you are worthy of an attractive woman and that self image gets reflected back to you in how she responds to you?

What do you mean when you say average looking guys are the target? Why would they be the target?

[Majed]

@Primal Experiment work on your appearance honestly, go to the gym, eat healthy, develop a nice physique. Then wash yourself regularly, brush your teeth, and finally dress well and put on a nice perfume. 

Anyone who does this will be automatically an 8.

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Tenebroso said:

So you have to believe you are worthy of an attractive woman and that self image gets reflected back to you in how she responds to you?

What do you mean when you say average looking guys are the target? Why would they be the target?

Women evolved to seek survival value in men, in the Stone Age if a woman went after a guy just because he was handsome it would make no sense as the priority is a man who can help her survive, it doesn’t matter how handsome he is if she needs someone to protect and provide for her while she’s pregnant.
 

The way to tell is based on their status, as if a man was higher status he would have more resources and ability to survive. This is partially from practical status indicators, but mostly from behavior, as higher status tends to lead to greater confidence, non-neediness, and self assuredness, so those traits trigger interest. In the modern day we run into issues as the world is different so maybe someone is behaving confidently not because they are high status but because they have some mental illness like narcissism that stops social conditioning from penetrating them, but the woman’s biological attraction mechanisms can’t necessarily tell (her logical mind might).

Edited October 19, 2024 by Raze

[Majed]

@Raze well said 

[gettoefl]

You are judging women absurdly

predicated on judging yourself absurdly

and this augurs poorly for future happiness

Get some self esteem and put the idea of 9's and 10s to bed

Every woman who has my self esteem is perfect for me

and only such a woman

no matter how ugly the previously insecure me may have viewed her

Everyone is as hot as they care to be when they buck up their ideas

[Princess Arabia]

7 hours ago, Tenebroso said:

So you have to believe you are worthy of an attractive woman and that self image gets reflected back to you in how she responds to you?

What do you mean when you say average looking guys are the target? Why would they be the target?

They are the target because hot girls aren't necessarily looking for a hot guy. Average -handsome, but he doesn't have to look like a model and not even handsome but as long as he's somewhat average and not real ugly. Nothing wrong with real ugly; but those guys will probably have a better chance if she already knows him.

It's not about being worthy for an attractive woman. It's just that if she thinks you feel unworthy for her, she might get turned off because now you're saying you're lacking something and she may not want to find out more about you because now you seem like work to her when she just wants to have a good time. They might not want to have to spend time trying to make you feel comfortable with them, and make it seem as if they're too hot for you. They want you to already know this because she's not there to babysit. That alone is what's attractive to her, the fact that you're not shy to approach her. 

 

 

 

[Primal Experiment]

On 18/10/2024 at 10:31 PM, LordFall said:

You should add more than cold approach to your repertoire. Social media and social circle will help you bang hotties more than spamming cold approaches. In my experience cold approach works best on average girls and tourists. 

That's a long term solution. 

You think I can just spin that up in a few weeks, even a month? 

That takes a lot of time, effort, resources. 

Prefer cold approach because it can be both used for long term dating and also short term needs, in theory 

Edited November 1, 2024 by Primal Experiment

[Atb210201]

What's your good trait?

You certainly have one or some.

Focus on that.

Edited November 1, 2024 by Atb210201

[Schizophonia]

Hi goatis.

[Asia P]

On 18/10/2024 at 11:24 PM, Primal Experiment said:

 

 

Edited November 2, 2024 by Asia P

[Asia P]

On 18/10/2024 at 11:24 PM, Primal Experiment said:

 

I need at least 2/3 of tits + ass + pretty face, and face must be minimum 6.5, huge ass and tits will forgive the 6.5 

As a woman, i would FEAR a man with this specific requests about the appearences of a woman. Theres a huge difference between saying "i need a beautiful girl" and "i need this measure of tits and this type of ass". Its scary because it seems like ur choosing your girl like an object in a store. 

[Yimpa]

39 minutes ago, Asia P said:

As a woman, i would FEAR a man with this specific requests about the appearences of a woman. Theres a huge difference between saying "i need a beautiful girl" and "i need this measure of tits and this type of ass". Its scary because it seems like ur choosing your girl like an object in a store. 

Women are also pressured to look a certain way and to be a certain clothing size based on beauty standards. It is an abusive cycle.

[Yimpa]

I have dated beautiful women while looking ugly asf. It’s not impossible.

What ultimately ended those relationships, though, was my need to control them. No amount of manipulating your external looks will help you there.