Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Raze said:

the way many societies operated in ancient times.

And they are all dead.

[Rafael Thundercat]

Ligth language post was a cringe test for me and Ia belive I passed the test, I mean I still feel the cringe but I accept it. 

Actually I had an experience of seeing a woman doing that language stuff and hands during an ayahuasca ceremony. 

The spaceholders were me and a couple who were the ones playing guitar and singing. A British woman who we previously knew about her ligthlaguage tendencies was in the left side close to my friends. Well, after 45 minutes she started being very vocal in her personal language show. It was disturbing the whole set. 

Normaly is recommended to let people process without interference,but, not in my shift bitch 😂 👹. So i calmly came to her and said: Sorry,if you want to make your magic stuff, I think is better to leave the room and do it outside, we are in a collective work here, so please respect ok? She stoped and after few minutes had a big purge. 

Sometimes all this performative stuff is a strategy people have to avoid look into parts of themselfs they are avoiding for many years, maybe a little girl that wish to feel special because of mother or father were not giving them approvation etc... is a need for protagonism, to be seen, to call attention.

[RendHeaven]

keyasworld rocks lol

[Schizophonia]

13 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/conservatives-always-lose

psyop 

[RendHeaven]

38 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Japan

😍

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

😍

Finally i deleted my post it wasn't good quality enough.

Japan seems cool i would like visiting it one day.

 

[Daniel Balan]

21 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

 

Consider this: everything that dies is somehow false.

I contemplated that today. I don't like it. It left me unsure of myself. 

I want to know if something is false from the very beginning, I want myself to be the first person in 1930's Nazi Germany to recognize that nazism is false. I know Nazism is false having today's hindsight, but I want to know to recognize the falsehood of something at the very beggining of the thing. 

[Rafael Thundercat]

On 19/07/2025 at 5:56 AM, Leo Gura said:

It's more like Classic flavor

Farmboy fantasy.

You're basically cosplaying as a farmer.

Stardew Valley for people without computers.

Well, we can include Menonites in the Farmboy fantasy too. Gosh, I pray for the Universe to never incarnate as a Menonite member, but well, Universe loves that so it live that dream as well. 

If I was born a menonite I could even not share this since they cant touch technology 

[Davino]

On quote 262, Sri Ramana said

Quote

By the inquiry ‘Who am I?’. The thought ‘Who am I?’ will destroy all other thoughts, and like the stick used for stirring the burning pyre, it will itself in the end get destroyed. Then, there will arise Self‑realization.

 

[Nemra]

11 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Well, we can include Menonites in the Farmboy fantasy too. Gosh, I pray for the Universe to never incarnate as a Menonite member, but well, Universe loves that so it live that dream as well. 

If I was born a menonite I could even not share this since they cant touch technology 

That is a literal hell for me.

Way too much unconsciousness.

Edited July 21 by Nemra

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Davino said:

On quote 262, Sri Ramana said

 

That tiger looks grotesque, like he's high on DMT. WTF 

Edited July 21 by Leo Gura

[Rafael Thundercat]

@Leo Gura you will finish Actualized.org?

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

@Leo Gura you will finish Actualized.org?

I have much work yet to do.

I should delete that quote because people will misunderstand it.

Edited July 21 by Leo Gura

[Daniel Balan]

25 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I have much work yet to do.

I should delete that quote because people will misunderstand it.

Don't delete it Leo! It is the first thing I noticed about actualized.org, the fact that actualized.org is just a vehicle to help me realise that the best tool I have at my disposal is independence of mind. If actualized.org had a bible, that bible would be me having a perfectly uncorrupted independent mind. That is the goal of actualized.org, to develop such independent tought and mind, that you don't even need actualized.org anymore. Thats why this is not a cult, because cults want people to solely rely on the cult, whereas Leo goes above and beyond to emphasize that you only need to rely on your independence of mind

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

That tiger looks grotesque, like he's high on DMT. WTF 

[RendHeaven]

but leooooo

truth is everything

so sex = truth!

i'll have all the sex I want, AND have the truth!

you can't stop me!

[Terell Kirby]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I have much work yet to do.

I should delete that quote because people will misunderstand it.

What is your process for assessing what kinds of content are likely to be misunderstood?

I don’t envy you- trying to teach what fake vs real spirituality is, what at the same time not giving the answer for what fake vs real spirituality is - is not easy feat.

I intuit “real” spirituality is the process of admitting that I don’t know what it is, and going on a personal investigation to find out. Actualized.org is a great way to bootstrap, but it’s only part of the larger project.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I like it. Movement to facilitation rather than communication. The deeper you go into this shit there is some stuff that just can't go into standard communication modes without getting scrambled in the process. Facilitation is the smarter strategy at that level. Additionally, it assists with the students integration rather than presenting (what is) hearsay. 

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

What is your process for assessing what kinds of content are likely to be misunderstood?

There isn't a process.

Whenever I sense trouble.

[RendHeaven]

Ok let me get serious and try to steelman you.

sex is typically a negotiation between 2 people's survival agendas.

you're surviving the self, and she's surviving the self, and you both come together and survive together while pretending its pure and benevolent and motivated by goodness and "love" when actually you're just being mutually transactional + in denial of your own self-serving nature

people only have sex to acquire personal benefit. Even the tantric "divine feminine" with her opened heart-chakra, exploring her sexuality and self-expression with no strings attached, cherishing "sacred union" with the "emotional containment" of the "divine masculine" is really just farming positivity which fuels her self-agenda.

In that sense, you can see any and all sex as inherently seducing you away from truth. There WILL be a conflict of interest between what's actually happening VS how you would rather frame the process to maximize self-serving agenda

But then that gets me thinking, what would truthful sex look like? Surely this exists...

I imagine that to have truth and sex at the same time, you just have to be very lucid and transparent about your own incentives to yourself.

As long as you're able to spell out to yourself how you are actively succumbing to self-agenda in real time, you actually do salvage a meager morsel of truth, relative to the version of you who would rather do away with truthseeking entirely.

But even then you're not in the clear because even though you may have seen through your own self-agenda, it's not the case that she has seen through her self-agenda. And it's not your place to deconstruct her agenda on her behalf. In fact, to give her a good time, you have a responsibility to keep her fantasies in-tact. The more you play up the fantasy, the more fun it is for both (but especially her). Good sex is like handling a delicate vase and trying not to accidentally drop it, causing it to shatter into a million pieces. HARSH REALITY kills the game. womp womp.

Ok but surely if you find your super spiritual hot witch wifey, you can both be enlightened together and finally have truthful sex without coy fake dual-agendas

but actually every relationship must, by necessity have at least a little bit of falsehood.

because you're choosing to love a specific person unequally from the rest of reality. You're being awfully selective about your union. You will only unify flesh with that which you are attracted to. Of course, this is not a glitch by any means. You have no obligation to fuck people outside of your category of attraction.

But just notice that you are necessarily using your genitals to carve distinctions that you dare not question (ESPECIALLY if you romantically favor them): "this one here is more special than the others"

you are voting with your actions and there's no denying that your sensemaking is being deliberately skewed as you elect to cherish one person at the cost of all other beings (you having loving tantric sex with your unicorn wife is you NOT having loving tantric sex with an obese woman; an ugly grandma; a MALE; a dog; a donkey; etc.)

It's not that selectiveness is bad. It's that you are grotesquely effective at cherry picking who to unify with. You are happy to NOT love the majority of beings deeply, intimately, and personally. You dare not hold a homelessman or a sewer rat or a cockroach the way you hold your wife. And again, this is not a mistake or a moral judgement. It's just an objective measure of your distance from God.

If you wholly commit to truth, it's not enough to merely acknowledge your biases and then to continue acting them out. At some point, you yearn for unbias so sincerely that you literally cannot bring yourself to discriminate so blatantly with your cock. As you are fucking your unicorn wife, you're almost disappointed in how limited she is - that she is not all beings at once. But this is not her fault, she's not meant to be all beings at once. That's a distinction for MIND to collapse. Ultimately, your method of unification can no longer be your cock. Your cock becomes untenable. The only way to unify all beings into absolute intimacy is pure MIND

there's something deeply human about sex and relationships. by definition it is a biased pursuit that derails the quest for unbias.

It is actually this rich, inescapable bias that is precisely beautiful, but nonetheless false