Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Jayson G]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It is different in that school will get sucked into the AI hype and your kid will not even be able to go to school without AI.

Drugs is much easier than AI because AI will be pushed on your kid by society.

@Leo Gura ah damn I didn't even think about that. Kid aside, even I don't want to live in a world where everything around me is AI-augmented in terms of meaning, writing, etc. That's quite depressing. 

Tbh its probably already likely happening, but just the start of it. Billboards, posters, food items, everything. There likely will be no escaping it just like how devices have become an integral part of society that is quite hard to escape. 

[Jayson G]

@Leo Gura on a side note, I've been observing your recent replies and I'm not sure but I don't think you commented at all or much on the war with Iran? Not that I'm depending on this, but it would be valuable to hear your thoughts on it .. unless you're planning an episode on the entire fiasco or something? 

This is the first time I have people, family from around the world affected by this, even hearing the sounds of the attacks and shaking of the windows. This seems somewhat unprecedented. 

[Leo Gura]

@Jayson G Wait till they convince the masses that it's best for your kid to have all his teachers replaced with AI teachers. That is coming.

[Jayson G]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Jayson G Wait till they convince the masses that it's best for your kid to have all his teachers replaced with AI teachers. That is coming.

@Leo Gura I connected with my history teacher after 10+ years and he basically confirmed that this is already happening. They're making his life much harder, AI and the students. 

[vibv]

Creating religions is the future. But it will be a collaborative effort instead of resulting in wars. It's a beautiful possibility.

Forget game design. What about Religion Design? That's ART.

Edited 11 hours ago by vibv

[Joseph Maynor]

I feel like art is basically a form of Creation but Creation goes well beyond art.  Art is what is agreed to be creation.  

This is a good video to get started on this investigation:

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Joseph Maynor

[LambdaDelta]

I recently bought a Bombardino Cocodrilo lapel pin to serve as a symbolic representation of a particular aspect of Creativity — no matter how ugly, derivative, hallucinatory, chaotic, brainrotting it all is, AI slop is still ultimately God's imagination. I envision it will be a useful facilitation tool for me to go deeper into the Insanity facet, especially paired with deliriants.
A clever little reframing of the issue. (though also silly 🤤)

[Terell Kirby]

@Leo Gura thanks for putting us on to John Blow- he's a deep guy. I find the below interview interesting on AI Consciousness.

 

Timestamp 4:37 --they can't help but chalk Consciousness up to some atomic process happening in the brain. They have a thoughtful perspective, but its corrupted because they misunderstand Consciousness.

Of course AI can't achieve human consciousness, cause no human ever had it in the first place.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Terell Kirby

[bazera]

Some thoughts on this video: https://www.actualized.org/insights/more-ai-delusions

My god, they bullshit us with such confidence and straight face. 

When what that Anthropic CEO said will definitely not happen, that in 6-12 months Claude will do perferct job at software development, will there be anyone that makes him accountable to that words? Or everyone just ignores it and allow him to bullshit us again with yet another 6-12 month fearmongering claims.

And the fact that they straight up lie in the C compiler ad, is just crazy. I was more sympathetic towards that company, because I really like their tools, but this just makes me certain that I shouldn't believe anything that they're marketing so deceptively.

It's a good example of how important it is to do independent research into a thing instead of just believing a marketing ad.

Edited 5 hours ago by bazera

[Natasha Tori Maru]

9 minutes ago, bazera said:

My god, they bullshit us with such confidence and straight face. 

It is unreal how many people give their authority away to confidence. It is a psychological trap - flood people with notifications, decision fatigue. Wear them down until inundated with choice and information. Then present something with confidence. The general population does not have the capacity to deal with more decisions (ie critically assessing information) so the confidence of delivery ends up seducing them....

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, bazera said:

that in 6-12 months Claude will do perferct job at software development, will there be anyone that makes him accountable to that words?

By then he hopes to go IPO and sell his stock.

This is an IPO pump and dump. The suckers will be left holding a bag of hot shit.

Edited 4 hours ago by Leo Gura

[bazera]

25 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

It is unreal how many people give their authority away to confidence. It is a psychological trap - flood people with notifications, decision fatigue. Wear them down until inundated with choice and information. Then present something with confidence. The general population does not have the capacity to deal with more decisions (ie critically assessing information) so the confidence of delivery ends up seducing them....

It's especially problematic when it comes to new hyped up techonologies that we don't really know how it all works under the hood (LLMs for example), and that makes us more gullible to their confidence.

And giving authority away to confidence really re-shapes the worldview. For example, if you believed what he says that in 6-12 months software will write itself, it would affect your life decisions in drastic ways if you are related to software industry in some way.

We should be careful in what we believe in. But as you said, amidst the flood of notifications and decesion fatigue people aren't used to doing that.

Edited 4 hours ago by bazera

[Joseph Maynor]

AI is almost kind of an assistant.  It's not a substitute for your mind.  We're collaborating with AI now.