Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[UnbornTao]

Humans are primates. I've never understood this natural arrogance that leads us to claim we are not animals, or that we are somehow outside that category.

Edited March 7 by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

16 minutes ago, TheEnigma said:

So how can a human being just take psychedellics and expect themselves to be the level next of a being just for a few hours?

You can be it for a few hours, but you can't sustain that level of consciousness.

How? Because it increases consciousness.

[Stick]

What if I keep taking psychedelic every few hours.

So wake up, take psychedelic and after the effects wear down take it again.
Keep taking it at intervals until night time and then sleep.
Repeat
Will that make me super enlightened? 
If not what will make me enlightened?

Edited March 7 by Stick

[UnbornTao]

8 minutes ago, Stick said:

What if I keep taking psychedelic every few hours.

So wake up, take psychedelic and after the effects wear down take it again.
Keep taking it at intervals until night time and then sleep.
Repeat
Will that make me super enlightened? 
If not what will make me enlightened?

That's the bitch of it. No. You. 

Edited March 7 by UnbornTao

[Stick]

If I don't get enlightened what is the point of listening to actualized.org. 
Isn't this just a mind masturbation for a non enlightened person.

[UnbornTao]

4 hours ago, Stick said:

If I don't get enlightened what is the point of listening to actualized.org. 
Isn't this just a mind masturbation for a non enlightened person.

You need to do work on dropping assumptions. But "awakening" is not the only focus. Also, there aren't many enlightened people to begin with at all. Maybe Leo, just maybe. 

You can always question. That's essentially the practice. Ask: "Who am I?" Be open and do that until you get it. 

Edited March 7 by UnbornTao

[Lyubov]

Wouldn’t it be untruthful to expect yourself to sustain any degree of consciousness if you simply can’t? What I mean is say you are focusing on spirituality. And before we even start discussing this you believe there is some ideal or perfection when it comes to this topic “I must be this conscious.” Where there is you now on this side who isn’t as conscious as you think you should be vs the other side where you are as conscious as you think you should be. To me that seems like a trap in and of itself. A move towards expanded consciousness comes about from truth itself not from seeking perfection, achievement or accomplishment. 

[bazera]

56 minutes ago, Stick said:

If I don't get enlightened what is the point of listening to actualized.org. 
Isn't this just a mind masturbation for a non enlightened person.

How can you expect to get "enlightened" from listening to videos?

You really don't see the value in these teachings?

[LoneWonderer]

@Leo GuraHello Leo, in regards to your post on sex trafficking and Epstein, have you read and would you recommend the book mentioned in the podcast:

Nobody's Girl by virginia Giuffre

Thank you

[Stick]

Not to be rude but how many of yall have experienced awakening at all.
And if you have not then what actions have you been taking to get closer to it

[UnbornTao]

On 3/7/2026 at 11:45 AM, Stick said:

Not to be rude but how many of yall have experienced awakening at all.
And if you have not then what actions have you been taking to get closer to it

Those questions are going to open Pandora's box.

Again, there's work to be done in the domain of assumptions. There's no action you can take to get there because it's not a destination. It's not like something you do and take steps to arrive at, like writing a book. I think you're asking from a place of "tell me what to believe."

Don't get confused by the barrage of fantasy that will be thrown at you, even if you like it and it validates your notions of what this business is about. Do it yourself. Contemplate. That's the gist of it. If you want, study Ramana Maharshi. At the very least, it can be inspiring, and it will give your mind some authentic communications to focus on. Just don't believe any of it.

Edited March 8 by UnbornTao

[Rafael Thundercat]

3 hours ago, Stick said:

What if I keep taking psychedelic every few hours.

So wake up, take psychedelic and after the effects wear down take it again.
Keep taking it at intervals until night time and then sleep.
Repeat
Will that make me super enlightened? 
If not what will make me enlightened?

I have this ideia of eating mushrooms all day long, I mean, eating food but in the intervals keep the habit of mushrooms. I dont know if my liver will like it .

[Rafael Thundercat]

3 hours ago, Stick said:

If I don't get enlightened what is the point of listening to actualized.org. 
Isn't this just a mind masturbation for a non enlightened person.

Stick, your name is the answer 😂,  you just need to Stick 5Meo up your ass and Ta-ta!!

[WillCameron]

@Leo Gura I just finished the book "Philosophy in the Flesh" by George Lakoff and Mark Johnson. They talk about how all knowledge is created through our embodied existence as human beings, and so most knowledge is deeply metaphorical relative to embodiment. I'm aware of 4E Cognitive Science and the 4 ways of knowing that Vervaeke often talks about, so I understand that knowledge is not only propositional.

I'm curious if you've read the book and/or whether or not your own understanding of Truth is influenced by your embodied nature. Do you see Truth as a process mediated through your body and do you believe something like "Alien Consciousness" is beyond the human body?

For my part, it seems like any state of consciousness we can experience will always be mediated through the human body and so limited by it.

Thanks for your time.

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, WillCameron said:

I'm curious if you've read the book and/or whether or not your own understanding of Truth is influenced by your embodied nature. Do you see Truth as a process mediated through your body

I have not read the book.

But Truth is Consciousness and it is not mediated by anything. The body is just Consciousness.

But in a relative sense the body is important.

Truth cannot depend on anything, since it is Infinite. All finite ontologies are wrong. All dependencies are wrong.

Edited March 7 by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

@Leo GuraHello Leo, in regards to your post on sex trafficking and Epstein, have you read and would you recommend the book mentioned in the podcast:

Nobody's Girl by virginia Giuffre

Thank you

I plan to read it.

Probably worth a read.

[Davino]

7 hours ago, TheEnigma said:

So how can psychedellics just make you into a being that's the next level of consciousness than a human? 

I mean it just happens

Do it responsibly and see for yourself 

[Davino]

11 minutes ago, WillCameron said:

 

For my part, it seems like any state of consciousness we can experience will always be mediated through the human body and so limited by it.

Most states of consciousness are mediated through the body, but not all. Breakthrough doses reach beyond the body's limits.

Also you should deconstruct the notion of body itself, really your body is Universal, that's your true body, Infinite Body = Infinity Mind = Infinite Consciousness 

[Davino]

7 hours ago, Stick said:

What if I keep taking psychedelic every few hours.

So wake up, take psychedelic and after the effects wear down take it again.
Keep taking it at intervals until night time and then sleep.

Go try a retreat of that 

Make sure you have some food cooked though, it's gonna be hard to take care of that survival minutiae after a few days in the retreat 

Edited March 7 by Davino

[Davino]

4 hours ago, Stick said:

Not to be rude but how many of yall have experienced awakening at all.

I have but most people are bullshiters, not out of bad will but because they bullshit thoroughly themselves first.

What is it that you want? Why you even care about "Awakening"? Where did you even get that idea from?