Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Joseph Maynor]

This is not intended to be preachy by any means: But I feel like if you have calm, grounded, and abundant energy it's not hard to attract.  The question becomes more about not wanting to use someone or lead someone on than it is about missing an opportunity.  It's ethics that limits engagement.  You're looking for a win-win for friendship and all relations that require friendship.  

[lostingenosmaze]

https://actualized.org/insights/women-will-never-satisfy-men

Gaymen/porn addicts/gooners, we are so back 🌈😎🍆

Edited 19 hours ago by lostingenosmaze

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

it's not hard to attract.

Attract all you want, it won't solve the problem.

[mmKay]

Imo being able to be sexualy satisfied obviously depends on your sex drive and genetics.

There is a huge variety there, just like everything genetics 

[Miguel1]

It’s always nice to get lost in the world and survival for a while and then come back here to read the blog and insights Leo provides and reminds us. Feel like coming back home, and that the unconsciouss of the world is not the only thing there is in this life.

I truly do feel like I was born a thousand years too early.

[Rafael Thundercat]

List os books to amplify or go deeper on the post about Civilization is built on Abuse:

"Capital" (ou "Das Kapital") - Karl Marx
"Bullshit Jobs: A Theory" - David Graeber
"The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret Joys of Bureaucracy" - David Graeber
"The Burnout Society" - Byung-Chul Han
"24/7: Late Capitalism and the Ends of Sleep" - Jonathan Crary
"Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison" - Michel Foucault
"Simulacra and Simulation" - Jean Baudrillard
"The Society of the Spectacle" - Guy Debord
"Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media" - Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman
"The Conquest of Bread" - Peter Kropotkin
"Fragments of an Anarchist Anthropology" - David Graeber
 

[Rafael Thundercat]

By the way. i would be interested in any powerful material to study more on the topic of Civilization is built on Abuse. I case nobody notice we are in Civilizational Colapse, we are late on understanding the root causes of our colapse.

[LoneWonderer]

59 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

List os books to amplify or go deeper on the post about Civilization is built on Abuse:

"Capital" (ou "Das Kapital") - Karl Marx
"Bullshit Jobs: A Theory" - David Graeber
"The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret Joys of Bureaucracy" - David Graeber
"The Burnout Society" - Byung-Chul Han
"24/7: Late Capitalism and the Ends of Sleep" - Jonathan Crary
"Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison" - Michel Foucault
"Simulacra and Simulation" - Jean Baudrillard
"The Society of the Spectacle" - Guy Debord
"Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media" - Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman
"The Conquest of Bread" - Peter Kropotkin
"Fragments of an Anarchist Anthropology" - David Graeber
 

Thanks bro, where did you get that from?

[LifeEnjoyer]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I already got Part 4 on my phone

Looking forward to it!

6 hours ago, Uddi said:

@Leo Gura Part 4 of what?

Part 4 of the music playlists.

[Terell Kirby]

Went down the Zebra rabbit hole a bit after the blog post on why Zebra was never domesticated.

Didn't know Zebra life was so brutal:

 

[aurum]

I feel like sexual quantity is easy for me to satisfy.

I can have sex 1-2x per week and be perfectly content. Maybe even less.

The bigger problem I've had has been variety. It's easy in a LTR for sex to start to feel mechanical, or to start fantasizing about other women. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, aurum said:

I feel like sexual quantity is easy for me to satisfy.

I can have sex 1-2x per week and be perfectly content. Maybe even less.

The bigger problem I've had has been variety. It's easy in a LTR for sex to start to feel mechanical, or to start fantasizing about other women. 

Many of my male friends/colleagues report novelty is what is not satisfied in LTR. Just an observation, but it appears sexual novelty is a larger component of the male sex drive. This is just from my experience in the social domain (family, friends, colleagues). When I reflect on it, this need for novelty would be an essential ingredient to perpetuate the species. Without men's drive for sex, I suspect we would not have proliferated the planet so extensively  

I think there is also a huge variance in sexual appetite for qty amongst the population - as @mmKay raised. Some men may have a very high ceiling there. One if my mates is completely asexual.

[Miguel1]

I enjoyed great novelty and variety with my previous girlfriend. We tried all sorts of different toys, kinks, roleplays and positions.

And we were always coming up with new to try. It was amazing.

[Someone here]

Look at the pathetic dude called Hugh Hefner( founder of PlayBoy). Watch his interviews on YouTube. He is dead now btw.he died not so long ago. in his 80s and basically only a sneeze away from dying and he is saying pathetic shit like "all I care about is high quality Viagra ". Because guess what .. age is not just a number ..when you are in Your 80s your dick is going to soften like tomato juice and go limp but you will still be obsessed with sex in your head if you were obsessed about it in your youth . So Leo is spot on about ditching women. But he got even worse by saying satisfy yourself .if he means fucking cum to porn he is definitely kidding. 

 

[aurum]

3 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Many of my male friends/colleagues report novelty is what is not satisfied in LTR. Just an observation, but it appears sexual novelty is a larger component of the male sex drive. This is just from my experience in the social domain (family, friends, colleagues). When I reflect on it, this need for novelty would be an essential ingredient to perpetuate the species. Without men's drive for sex, I suspect we would not have proliferated the planet so extensively  

I think there is also a huge variance in sexual appetite for qty amongst the population - as @mmKay raised. Some men may have a very high ceiling there. One if my mates is completely asexual.

Something like that, yes.

But I also think anything is going to start to feel mechanical once you've done it enough.

We just place a much higher standard on sex to be exciting.

Sign my petition to sometimes allow sex to be boring, please 

 

[MarkKol]

If you’re gonna keep pleasuring yourself you can easily do that for 50+ years and be absolutely miserable, you never tried anything with real women because you were never interested. 

Men are supposed to go out and fuck, doesn’t matter if it ultimately satisfies them or not.

[LambdaDelta]

It's incredible how the post about women and sex generated almost 1.5 pages of discussion and counting, given that it's sandwiched between Quotes #391–392 that are far more significant, as it not only explains the sex stuff but infinitely more, and yet not a word on those in this thread so far. Perhaps the issue is precisely that they're too all-encompassing, so there's nothing to discuss/argue about. Ironically in pointing this out I'm still the exact same as everyone else, trapped in my own selfishness; the only reason I'm able to handwave away the topic of relationships is due to being asexual, whereas to others it's an actual serious matter. Delightful to see such a divergence of perspectives, especially considering we're all One thing. 

[Stick]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Good question.

Infinity isn't a number, it's the set of all possible things. Within the domain of numbers infinity is not the largest number, it is ALL the numbers. But Infinity is not limited to numbers, Infinity is literally EVERYTHING.

Infinity = EVERYTHING = TOTALITY = ALL

And Unity isn't a number either. Unity is EVERYTHING taken as ONE TOTALITY.

How many ALLs is there? One.

How many EVERYTHING's is there? One.

How many TOTALITIES are there? One.

How many sets of all possible sets are there? One.

That's why God is One.

Infinity = Unity

Holy shit! Thats a really big mind fuck.

If everything is united and infinity is one.

Then if we take a piece of that infinity; say 1 pencil, does that mean that the pencil due to its property of being unity is also infinite?

Does that mean to see something as infinite is a matter of perspectives?

Or am I missing something?

@Leo Gura

[Rishabh R]

@Leo Gura Your blog has been a goldmine of wisdom which is becoming deeper and deeper. Regarding the blog post that women cannot satisfy men it breaks the illusion of single men like me that attracting a relationship would be an eternal bliss like a sharp scissor that is used to cut clothes. I remember that once I was contemplating - What is the most wisest way to live life ? and one of the insights among many was that - Only I can fulfill myself.

Thanks.

Edited 4 hours ago by Rishabh R

[Rafael Thundercat]

11 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

Thanks bro, where did you get that from?

I posted the whole Leo post about Civilization Abuse on Claude and asked it to give me some good resources to deepen the understanding about that topic. 

i also asked about Absolute Ontological Truth and got this answer:

An Absolute Ontological Truth would be a truth about the fundamental nature of reality that holds regardless of perspective, belief, or circumstance. Here are key characteristics and examples philosophers have proposed:
Defining Characteristics:
Unconditional - true in all possible worlds/contexts
Mind-independent - exists whether or not anyone perceives it
Foundational - describes the basic structure of existence itself
Universal - applies everywhere, everywhen
Non-contradictable - cannot be coherently denied
Proposed Candidates:
1. Existence itself
"Something exists" or "Being is"
Even doubting this requires existence
2. Logical/Mathematical truths
Law of non-contradiction (A cannot be both A and not-A)
Law of identity (A = A)
Though some argue these are conceptual, not ontological
3. Consciousness/Awareness
Descartes' "I think, therefore I am"
Direct self-awareness as irreducible
4. The nature of causality
Whether causation is fundamental to reality
Though quantum mechanics challenges this
Major Philosophical Challenges:
The Epistemological Problem:
How can we know an absolute ontological truth? We're always limited by:
Our sensory apparatus
Cognitive frameworks
Language and concepts
Subjective experience
Different Framework Perspectives:
Materialism: Matter/energy and physical laws are the absolute foundation
Idealism: Consciousness/mind is the fundamental reality
Neutral Monism: Reality is neither mental nor physical but a third thing
Buddhist Philosophy: Emptiness (śūnyatā) - no inherent, independent existence
Process Philosophy: Change/becoming is more fundamental than static being
The Paradox:
Any claim to absolute ontological truth faces the challenge that the claim itself is made from within a particular perspective, using particular concepts, by a particular kind of being (human).
Strongest Candidates (least controversial):
"Something exists rather than nothing"
"Change occurs" or "Change is possible"
"Experience happens" (even if we're unsure what's being experienced)

What's your intuition on this? Are you asking from a philosophical interest, or does this connect to the earlier text about truth and civilization?

__________

Then I said the I asked from interest but also conected to the earlier text cause I had a intuition that humaniy cant reach Absolute Truth as a Whole if Abuse and Survival is the main focus. 

I will post the answer bellow.