Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, JTL said:

@Leo Gura when you say play is the most important aspect of game, does that mean for the attraction phase?  but it is still important to build rapport and close. 

Play through till close.

Play doesn't contradict rapport.

[TheBeautyOfGod]

@Leo GuraYou often use the term "beauty," yet you've never explored it in depth. I even get the impression that beauty plays a central role for you – alongside the ontology of truth and love. And still, you've never addressed it. Why is it that someone like you, who holds absolute beauty in the highest reverence, has never spoken about it?

Edited 22 hours ago by TheBeautyOfGod

[cistanche_enjoyer]

Also I was wondering why Leo’s metaphysics playlist is missing the video “What is Beauty”  

[CosmicExplorer]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Because it is cheating by using the data of the entire world and it still cannot reason properly. More data cannot be the answer.

True AGI cannot be about leveraging human symbolic knowledge. It has to be able to bootstrap itself like a child's mind, with very little data, not the entire internet.

ARC-AGI-3 benchmark is made to test AI in something like that, and currently it's doing horrible in it compared to humans.

Edited 20 hours ago by CosmicExplorer

[Schizophonia]

On 21/07/2025 at 5:56 PM, RendHeaven said:

Yes, actually.

Which is why if you 100% committed to truth, you would have 0 preferences and actually drop dead as you neglect to feed yourself

In that sense, a baseline falsehood is necessary to sustain human life.

Still, the allure of sex is categorically different from your preference for a particular pastry.

Sex dominates your day to day thoughts, unless you're asexual or already having lots of it; Sex is highly personal and emotionally charged. You perceive real stakes. Whether you get to eat your éclair or not is trivial. Having sex with the wrong person, or having no sex at all will drive you crazy. Furthermore, sex invovles complex social dynamics and the coordination of competing agendas, which makes navigation a whole lot more thorny than going to your local french bakery

It's really simple. Are you acting in service of truth or not? That's it.

If you take this inquiry all the way, you realize your entire life is one giant falsehood, and one of the most egregious offenders is your sexuality

To be clear, I barely believe in the things I'm writing. I'm a devil. I choose sex. I'm just following Leo's claims to its ultimate logical conclusion with good faith. Everybody here should be able to do that much.

I know I'm in a play, but I'm still acting, it's just that now I know it's a game.

That's what my mentor once said to a listener; she had lost her motivation because of spirituality.
He replied something like, "It unlocks when you understand so much that there's nowhere else to go that it becomes sensible to start doing things again because suddenly it's just "for fun," for free.

He doesn't see the point of remaining in being/dissolution; he compares it to a flat electroencephalogram (EEG), and that if there were something fundamentally more interesting about being there, we would already be there.

[TheBeautyOfGod]

@cistanche_enjoyer Exactly, that's something I've been wondering about for a long time.

[Daniel Balan]

Hey @Leo Gura! @Xonas Pitfall messaged me asking if you could please help him regain access of his forum account. Please help him regain access to his account.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Hey @Leo Gura! @Xonas Pitfall messaged me asking if you could please help him regain access of his forum account. Please help him regain access to his account.

Tell him he can use the Forgot Password function now. It works.

[CARDOZZO]

I think that AGI already exists. We know nothing about technology and science. Imagine what they did with project stargate/remote vision. Now, think that they have done it 1000x on physics, chemistry, math, computer science, engineering, sci-fi tech. We are just civilians thinking we really know what is going on here on earth. Wake up!

Edited 13 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, CARDOZZO said:

I think that AGI already exists. We know nothing about technology and science. Imagine what they did with project stargate/remote vision. Now, think that they have done it 1000x on physics, chemistry, math, computer science, engineering, sci-fi tech. We are just civilians thinking we really know what is going on here on earth. Wake up!

Stop buying their hype. These tech assholes have gone mad with AI.

[CARDOZZO]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Stop buying their hype. These tech assholes have gone mad with AI.

I do think that what really happens with startups and companies are just disclosure tech from the past. We are living on the past. A small percentage of humanity is living on the future. Teleportation, warp drives, plasma engineering, telepathy, God-like tech is already here but not equally distributed.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, CARDOZZO said:

I do think that what really happens with startups and companies are just disclosure tech from the past. We are living on the past. A small percentage of humanity is living on the future. Teleportation, warp drives, plasma engineering, telepathy, God-like tech is already here but not equally distributed.

 

If this possibility exists - all this tech would be with the defence contractors and be compartmentalised into oblivion. Lockheed, General Electric, Northrop, RTX etc 

The government wouldn't have the capacity to keep such a thing secret. We do this in construction - subcontract out to multiple fabricators, and find unique ways to apply carpentry via the site supervisors for a cost effective and hardy solution. The alternative being, have one subcontractor perform the service/fabrication in its entirety (lower quality control, higher cost). This way I can reduce costs and win more contracts with the client due to the secretive methods we use. Sometimes this method is used when we are constructing something unique for the government that requires sensitivity.

tapping out now cos conspiracy theory stick coming >.<

Edited 12 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[CARDOZZO]

14 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

If this possibility exists - all this tech would be with the defence contractors and be compartmentalised into oblivion. Lockheed, General Electric, Northrop, RTX etc

So, you're doing research 👁️

I do not want to sound like a lunatic but....

Science fiction is more real than science itself.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I take huge issue with the beauty industry and what it sells women as a whole. I find it disgusting.

It embeds the belief one IS their body. It encourages attachment to the self. This really does a number on women's psychology - society teaches them to reduce themselves. They aren't whole. Preys on vulnerability to sell them something they do not need. And unfortunately, the ingrained desire to 'fit in' due to survival mechanisms is actually being leveraged and used against them. 

The perpetual use of fillers and botox make it a new normal. Anyone that doesn't conform is viewed as having something wrong with them. 

Weaponizing vulnerability to make money. All of it is about non-acceptance of what IS. Reject the self in pursuit of another, better self.

Having said the above - it is the mentality behind it I dislike.

Because as a woman myself, I partake in beauty regimens. I enjoy them for the creativity they afford me. So I must be very aware of where I am engaging in a process that is negatively impacting me. Most of these pursuits I engage in for me, as I do not appear normal to others. Conforming is not the intent (for myself). I was raised by an artist and this mentality is baked into me. He encouraged 'self decoration' as a creative way to express myself. But I still need to regularly question my motives.

Lucky I place much more importance on other aspects of being and have very little attachment to my physical self (comparatively speaking). I focus on mastery of reality through skills and sovereignty.

Thanks for the shares 

[RendHeaven]

8 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

He doesn't see the point of remaining in being/dissolution; he compares it to a flat electroencephalogram (EEG), and that if there were something fundamentally more interesting about being there, we would already be there.

Good point

[MuadDib]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

This really does a number on women's psychology - society teaches them to reduce themselves. They aren't whole. Preys on vulnerability to sell them something they do not need. And unfortunately, the ingrained desire to 'fit in' due to survival mechanisms is actually being leveraged and used against them. 

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[LoneWonderer]

Hey Leo,

Thank you for sharing these examples of conformity on the blog. I would love to see if you have any examples of conformity that are not as blatently obvious as botox and lip enhancement. Would love to see content on forms of conformity so lowkey that most educated people are blind to them & take for granted (excluding the domain of science). 

[Xonas Pitfall]

I'd be very curious about this too... 

 

[aurum]

Omg, my ex-girlfriend fell into all this filler / botox / plastic surgery bullshit.

She would spend so much time scrolling Instagram, looking at other women and plotting out her next cosmetic move.

The whole situation is just sad.

 

[Joshe]

44 minutes ago, LoneWonderer said:

I would love to see if you have any examples of conformity that are not as blatently obvious as botox and lip enhancement.

Examples abound. Conformity = unconscious social approval seeking. This forum itself provides fresh examples daily. For example, ass kissing. Conformity is cowardice and purposelessness, but if there is a purpose or highest good, it’s to be noticed, validated, accepted. That’s really what conformists live for. Take that away and they got nothing, which is why they need it. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Joshe