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That will show him! Topic: I thought he meant in a way that he disagrees with the man, in that his memories or understanding of the alien was wrong.

Hi @Leo Gura, I see you posting documentaries and stories about aliens on your blog and forum from time to time. Like the last one: https://actualized.org/insights/varginha-ufo-alien-communication I was wondering if there is a megathread for it, with links to blog posts, documentaries, etc?

An alien would have a 5 hour long interview with him.

We need Leo to tell the alien it isn't AWAKE™ and then send it off to its home planet with some DMT

I wish Leo would be there, he would immediately have a deep existential discussion with this alien being and teach him some lessons. Also Leo would send him some homework if he ever made it back to his planet.

I don't know then, I avoid these theoretical discussions like the plague, since it never leads anywhere. Leo can say he knows exactly why this is impossible and still be dead wrong, and you can make any argument for and against it and still be either 100% wrong or 100% right and never know. If the doctor said he observed the alien heal his skin, flesh and bones within 24 hours then the mf can heal, case closed. Why would you believe that the doctor witnessed an alive alien in front of him, but reject some small part of his story about alien healing if he said he saw it happen? That story is crazy in Its entirety, and we're only going to disagree about the healing?

It's such a Leo move to disagree with a hyper-intelligent alien species off the get-go

No the alien was talking about their race, that they can heal themselves and then Leo says he disagrees, I don't get it.

What he probably means is that he has a better understanding of humans than aliens on this subject, otherwise why would he state his opinion so strongly on something he knows he has less understanding of than Aliens? I don't know why would aliens say something like that, as if diet, exercise and proper sleep are not the best ways to 'repair our bodies'. Very vague, could've just told him how to do it Mr. Alien instead of blabbering about some shit he knows we won't be able to understand. "Rub space emeralds into your penis and see how good you feel"

I can’t tell if this is a serious question or not. That’s some alien wizardry right there

Don’t forget about an Alien Wolf!

He's been asked about this topic, was Shiva an alien, I don't think he wants to be associated with the Alien world, but on Rogan he did discuss a time when they were on a trip in the Himalayas or around there at some lake and he became Aware of beings that were not from Earth, and tried to via using someone's body find out more about it, here is the video..

It's been misconstrued. In the yogic and hindu lore, shiva was already seen and described as having a youthful body. No one ever saw him when he was a child, or in his old age. One important fact to keep in mind is that Shiva was always referred to as "yaksha swarupa" which means those kinds of beings that are not human. So in the culture itself it talks about these things. But no one ever said he had an " alien consciousness". That makes no sense.

wtf is alien consciousness? heard it mentioned on this forum a couple of times now

He can bring one into Shiva consciousness. And Shiva is an alien. So alien consciousness is his main teaching

@Simbruh can your sadghuru transform you into an alien? Sadghuru focuses on different things than Leo and thats good.

i also really love sadhguru. however i found a contrast between his a leo's teachings - sadhguru stated a couple of times now, that god is NOT love? that it is rather an intelligence. this kinda shocked me, since i usually resonate hard with basically everything sadhguru says, and his and leos teaching are basically alligned all the way. the way i see it there are a couple of possibilities. he could be holding the information back in order to maintain his reputation, which he has done before, such as for example that he doesnt really want to share his knowledge in regards to alien species. he could be talking about god in its state of nothingness, which as I understand it is completely devoid of all qualities, including love. It is also possible that he has not realized the infinite love of god? which to me seems a bit implausible, since the dude seems conscious as fuck. or we are just all fucking deluded heheh ofc not. i would like to hear leos input on this, since ive also heard him talking positively about sadhguru in the past. link to sadhguru saying god is not love;

I'm so grateful for this community and the fact that I can ask questions like this here! Excited to hear everyone's thoughts. @Leo Gura has been mentioning "alien" and "transhuman" states of consciousness that can only be accessed by psychedelics and cannot be locked in as a baseline state. What makes it a good strategy to pursue more and more temporary experiences of alien consciousness, then? Why not explore human consciousness while we're living as humans and then go explore other levels of consciousness once we're not human anymore? Don't get me wrong, I love psychedelics, and I think they can have a very profound impact on the level of human consciousness that we CAN sustain in a natural state. But Like… if transhuman consciousness is what you're after… isn't the best strategy to just stop being human lmfao??? Isn't it an odd goal to chase something that, by definition, can't be fully attained by a human? Why not master the human realm of consciousness instead of being really bad at transhuman levels? Of course, I mean this analogy with all due respect, but I thought the big reason why people don't do heroin is because the ecstasy it produces can never be sustained and it makes the rest of life feel pretty damn bland. So does that not happen when pursuing temporary states of alien consciousness too? It sounds incredibly frustrating for anyone who values consciousness to attempt to sustain a transhuman level of consciousness that can only be experienced for short periods. It sounds like that pursuit would make you have a lot less gratitude for your life and human levels of consciousness. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts!

The only thing that beats aristocratic tutoring for becoming a hyper-genius is getting coached by a hyper-intelligent alien. And considering that it's increasingly likely that aliens (and also psychic phenomena) are real, the smartest thing you could probably ever do would be to try to contact them telepathically 👽👻

@OBEler At some point, if you take enough psychedelics, you will get a glimpse of transhuman consciousness. By definition, transhuman consciousness is abilities and powers outside of normal human levels of consciousness. And surely, I've glimpsed this on Ayahuasca. Just take note that there is a difference between Transhuman Consciousness and Alien Consciousness. Transhuman is still 'human' and alien is radically not. Transhuman consciousness can be considered anything supernatural/paranormal but at a much higher scale (essentially, states that are higher than human, but still feel 'human' - which can be paradoxical in a way). For example, summoning and conversing with entities, combined with other glamorous supernatural powers can be considered transhuman consciousness, whilst on psychedelics. But, there are much higher states than that, surely. Alien Consciousness would be, by nature, at a much more radical degree than none came across. It's a completely non-human version of consciousness, above even that of transhuman. So, we shall see what's in store for us soon from Leo's course as we are still in blind.

@Yimpa You are not "bridging the (paradoxical) gap" between absolute consciousness and "getting the person" there. Just speaking in riddles and spinning the wheel. It sounds like you have a box full of papers with non-dual comments written on them and each time you pull out a piece of paper and write a wise non-dual quote on here I am beginning to see the deep and subtle traps in non-duality, I hope I meet a three-horned alien one day that can telepathically teach me about reality... THAT is "bridging the gap" right there

I see now that I am identityless, but I take on all identity by being and experiencing. Ego is attachment is bias is desire and will. Is the belief in identification and preference. My experiential first person ego is far from gone. I am a state of awareness, opening. But I am attached to my senses and consciousness through the lens of my experience. At this point in my journey, I am attached to being and knowing, remembering and sensing. My ego does not need much, but it does desire to exist as awareness and explore reality. I indulge in accumulated preferences of emotion tied memory but I love the other and alien as well. To be no thing is amazing, as any and all things spawns of it. How far does this journey go?

Leos most recent Blog post: https://www.actualized.org/insights/varginha-ufo-alien-communication "MP: All that I am willing to tell you at this time is what the creature told me about human beings. I also want to tell you that he downloaded a tremendous amount of knowledge into my head. It caused me to have headaches lasting for over two weeks following the event. Essentially, he told me his race felt very sorry for the human beings for basically two reasons. The first is that all humans have the same potential and abilities to perform the very same things his race could do — those things we find so marvelous and magical but did not know how to do. For example, he told me that in cases where there is injury or disease of the body it would not be necessary to confine one of his species to a special treatment facility, such as the one he was confined in at the moment. He told me that they, either individually or collectively, could produce all the healing necessary to repair their bodies. [Leo’s Note: I actually disagree with this.] The second reason they felt sorry for us is that we did not seem to realize that we were spiritual beings only living in a temporary shell, and were totally disconnected from our spiritual self. [Emphasis Leo’s. This is the most important part of the whole story.]" _____________________________________ So what would we need to focus on to achieve alien development? Psychedelics and genetic manipulation? PS: Why do you disagree with that Alien right of the bat Leo? That doesnt seem very open minded..

Pure heroin doesnt kill you if you always take the right dose. It's the dirty street Heroin and cookiness of junkies which gives them an overdose. You never know how pure the street Heroin is. However the pleasure of heroin dec lines over time so that you take heroin just to prevent withdrawal effects. My advice: Never ever take Heroin. I dont know about alien consciousness, if it declines over time

It will definetly deter newer artists and make artists mood go down but thats not ais fault, thats the artists fault. I am an artist and I have been drawing all my life. I am not as good as ai but I do not feel that it deters me from creating. I have never made money off my art but that should not be how art is made. If it is how you make your money then it sucks but if it stops you from creating you were a phony imo. Art comes from a desire to take your ideas and put them into reality. When I 1st heard about ai art I was initially annoyed but it won't stop me from doing what I like to do. I also agree with diminished attention being a detriment to humanity and I beleive it is being done on purpose by either government or a secret ai alien that is slowly taking over humanity. The wise ones are focusing on this aspect of themselves in these times while the others are letting themselves dissapear through distraction. I am not perfect but I am seeing what is happening to everyone and it does not seem good at all for humanity. I see it within myself too.