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No the alien was talking about their race, that they can heal themselves and then Leo says he disagrees, I don't get it.

What he probably means is that he has a better understanding of humans than aliens on this subject, otherwise why would he state his opinion so strongly on something he knows he has less understanding of than Aliens? I don't know why would aliens say something like that, as if diet, exercise and proper sleep are not the best ways to 'repair our bodies'. Very vague, could've just told him how to do it Mr. Alien instead of blabbering about some shit he knows we won't be able to understand. "Rub space emeralds into your penis and see how good you feel"

I can’t tell if this is a serious question or not. That’s some alien wizardry right there

Don’t forget about an Alien Wolf!

He's been asked about this topic, was Shiva an alien, I don't think he wants to be associated with the Alien world, but on Rogan he did discuss a time when they were on a trip in the Himalayas or around there at some lake and he became Aware of beings that were not from Earth, and tried to via using someone's body find out more about it, here is the video..

It's been misconstrued. In the yogic and hindu lore, shiva was already seen and described as having a youthful body. No one ever saw him when he was a child, or in his old age. One important fact to keep in mind is that Shiva was always referred to as "yaksha swarupa" which means those kinds of beings that are not human. So in the culture itself it talks about these things. But no one ever said he had an " alien consciousness". That makes no sense.

wtf is alien consciousness? heard it mentioned on this forum a couple of times now

He can bring one into Shiva consciousness. And Shiva is an alien. So alien consciousness is his main teaching

@Simbruh can your sadghuru transform you into an alien? Sadghuru focuses on different things than Leo and thats good.

i also really love sadhguru. however i found a contrast between his a leo's teachings - sadhguru stated a couple of times now, that god is NOT love? that it is rather an intelligence. this kinda shocked me, since i usually resonate hard with basically everything sadhguru says, and his and leos teaching are basically alligned all the way. the way i see it there are a couple of possibilities. he could be holding the information back in order to maintain his reputation, which he has done before, such as for example that he doesnt really want to share his knowledge in regards to alien species. he could be talking about god in its state of nothingness, which as I understand it is completely devoid of all qualities, including love. It is also possible that he has not realized the infinite love of god? which to me seems a bit implausible, since the dude seems conscious as fuck. or we are just all fucking deluded heheh ofc not. i would like to hear leos input on this, since ive also heard him talking positively about sadhguru in the past. link to sadhguru saying god is not love;

I'm so grateful for this community and the fact that I can ask questions like this here! Excited to hear everyone's thoughts. @Leo Gura has been mentioning "alien" and "transhuman" states of consciousness that can only be accessed by psychedelics and cannot be locked in as a baseline state. What makes it a good strategy to pursue more and more temporary experiences of alien consciousness, then? Why not explore human consciousness while we're living as humans and then go explore other levels of consciousness once we're not human anymore? Don't get me wrong, I love psychedelics, and I think they can have a very profound impact on the level of human consciousness that we CAN sustain in a natural state. But Like… if transhuman consciousness is what you're after… isn't the best strategy to just stop being human lmfao??? Isn't it an odd goal to chase something that, by definition, can't be fully attained by a human? Why not master the human realm of consciousness instead of being really bad at transhuman levels? Of course, I mean this analogy with all due respect, but I thought the big reason why people don't do heroin is because the ecstasy it produces can never be sustained and it makes the rest of life feel pretty damn bland. So does that not happen when pursuing temporary states of alien consciousness too? It sounds incredibly frustrating for anyone who values consciousness to attempt to sustain a transhuman level of consciousness that can only be experienced for short periods. It sounds like that pursuit would make you have a lot less gratitude for your life and human levels of consciousness. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts!

The only thing that beats aristocratic tutoring for becoming a hyper-genius is getting coached by a hyper-intelligent alien. And considering that it's increasingly likely that aliens (and also psychic phenomena) are real, the smartest thing you could probably ever do would be to try to contact them telepathically 👽👻

@OBEler At some point, if you take enough psychedelics, you will get a glimpse of transhuman consciousness. By definition, transhuman consciousness is abilities and powers outside of normal human levels of consciousness. And surely, I've glimpsed this on Ayahuasca. Just take note that there is a difference between Transhuman Consciousness and Alien Consciousness. Transhuman is still 'human' and alien is radically not. Transhuman consciousness can be considered anything supernatural/paranormal but at a much higher scale (essentially, states that are higher than human, but still feel 'human' - which can be paradoxical in a way). For example, summoning and conversing with entities, combined with other glamorous supernatural powers can be considered transhuman consciousness, whilst on psychedelics. But, there are much higher states than that, surely. Alien Consciousness would be, by nature, at a much more radical degree than none came across. It's a completely non-human version of consciousness, above even that of transhuman. So, we shall see what's in store for us soon from Leo's course as we are still in blind.

@Yimpa You are not "bridging the (paradoxical) gap" between absolute consciousness and "getting the person" there. Just speaking in riddles and spinning the wheel. It sounds like you have a box full of papers with non-dual comments written on them and each time you pull out a piece of paper and write a wise non-dual quote on here I am beginning to see the deep and subtle traps in non-duality, I hope I meet a three-horned alien one day that can telepathically teach me about reality... THAT is "bridging the gap" right there

I see now that I am identityless, but I take on all identity by being and experiencing. Ego is attachment is bias is desire and will. Is the belief in identification and preference. My experiential first person ego is far from gone. I am a state of awareness, opening. But I am attached to my senses and consciousness through the lens of my experience. At this point in my journey, I am attached to being and knowing, remembering and sensing. My ego does not need much, but it does desire to exist as awareness and explore reality. I indulge in accumulated preferences of emotion tied memory but I love the other and alien as well. To be no thing is amazing, as any and all things spawns of it. How far does this journey go?

Leos most recent Blog post: https://www.actualized.org/insights/varginha-ufo-alien-communication "MP: All that I am willing to tell you at this time is what the creature told me about human beings. I also want to tell you that he downloaded a tremendous amount of knowledge into my head. It caused me to have headaches lasting for over two weeks following the event. Essentially, he told me his race felt very sorry for the human beings for basically two reasons. The first is that all humans have the same potential and abilities to perform the very same things his race could do — those things we find so marvelous and magical but did not know how to do. For example, he told me that in cases where there is injury or disease of the body it would not be necessary to confine one of his species to a special treatment facility, such as the one he was confined in at the moment. He told me that they, either individually or collectively, could produce all the healing necessary to repair their bodies. [Leo’s Note: I actually disagree with this.] The second reason they felt sorry for us is that we did not seem to realize that we were spiritual beings only living in a temporary shell, and were totally disconnected from our spiritual self. [Emphasis Leo’s. This is the most important part of the whole story.]" _____________________________________ So what would we need to focus on to achieve alien development? Psychedelics and genetic manipulation? PS: Why do you disagree with that Alien right of the bat Leo? That doesnt seem very open minded..

Pure heroin doesnt kill you if you always take the right dose. It's the dirty street Heroin and cookiness of junkies which gives them an overdose. You never know how pure the street Heroin is. However the pleasure of heroin dec lines over time so that you take heroin just to prevent withdrawal effects. My advice: Never ever take Heroin. I dont know about alien consciousness, if it declines over time

It will definetly deter newer artists and make artists mood go down but thats not ais fault, thats the artists fault. I am an artist and I have been drawing all my life. I am not as good as ai but I do not feel that it deters me from creating. I have never made money off my art but that should not be how art is made. If it is how you make your money then it sucks but if it stops you from creating you were a phony imo. Art comes from a desire to take your ideas and put them into reality. When I 1st heard about ai art I was initially annoyed but it won't stop me from doing what I like to do. I also agree with diminished attention being a detriment to humanity and I beleive it is being done on purpose by either government or a secret ai alien that is slowly taking over humanity. The wise ones are focusing on this aspect of themselves in these times while the others are letting themselves dissapear through distraction. I am not perfect but I am seeing what is happening to everyone and it does not seem good at all for humanity. I see it within myself too.

It's not really my thesis. Many whistleblowers have come out and said that governments have alien craft and bodies. This intel is highly classified and compartmentalized such that even many top official don't know about it.

The words spoken by the alien resonated with me, evoking memories of this passage : On the planet Earth this particularity in the psyche of the three-brained beings arose only during later periods; and it arose only because their predominant part, formed in them as in all three-brained beings, gradually allowed the other parts of their total presence to perceive every new impression without fulfilling what is called 'being-partkdolgduty,' that is to say, merely as such impressions are generally perceived by one or another of their independent localizations known as 'being-centers.' Or, to put it in their language, they believe everything anybody says, instead of believing only what they have been able to verify by their own 'sane deliberation'—in other words, only those convictions they have reached as a result of confronting and evaluating the data already deposited in them, which have given rise to different conceptions in each of their localizations of diverse nature. "In general, a new conception is crystallized in the presences of these strange beings only if Mr. Smith speaks of somebody or something in a certain way; then if Mr. Brown says the same, the hearer is quite convinced that it is just so and could not possibly be otherwise. Thanks to this partic- ularity of their psyche, most of the beings there, having heard the writer I spoke of praised so highly, are at present quite convinced that he is a very great psychologist, with an incomparable knowledge of the psyche of the beings of his planet. "As a matter of fact, when I was on that planet for the last time and, having heard of this writer, once went to see him myself on quite another matter, I found him, according to my understanding, just like all the other contemporary writers there, that is, extremely limited or, as our dear Mullah Nasr Eddin would say, 'unable to see further than his nose.' As regards any knowledge of the real psyche of the beings of his planet in actual conditions, he might safely be called a 'complete ignoramus.' "I repeat, the story of this writer shows in a very characteristic way to what extent the three-brained beings who have taken your fancy, particularly the contemporary ones, fail to fulfill 'being-partkdolgduty,' and how there are never crystallized in them any subjective being-convictions formed by their own logical deliberations—as in general is proper to three-brained beings— but instead, only those convictions are crystallized that depend exclusively upon the opinions of others. "And it was only because they failed to fulfill 'being-partkdolgduty'— which alone enables a being to become aware of genuine reality—that they saw in this writer some perfection or other that was not there. "This strange trait of their psyche, that of being satisfied with whatever Smith or Brown says without trying to know more, became rooted in them long ago, and now they no longer make the least effort to know anything that can be understood solely by their own active reflection. It must be said here that the blame for this lies neither in the organ kundabuffer, which was implanted in their ancestors, nor in its consequences, which were crystallized in them because of a mistake on the part of certain Sacred Individuals, and which later began to pass by heredity from generation to generatio. "No, they themselves are to blame for it, on account of the abnormal conditions of external ordinary being-existence they gradually established, and which have progressively fostered in their common presence what has now become their 'inner evil god,' called 'self-calming.' "But you will understand all this very well for yourself later on when I give you, as I promised, more information about the planet that has taken your fancy. "In any case, I strongly advise you to be most careful in the future, when you refer to the three-brained beings of that planet, not to offend them in any way. Otherwise, as they say, 'With what may the Devil not joke?'—they might hear about your insulting them and, to use another of their expressions, 'lay you by the heels.' "There is no harm in recalling here another wise saying of our dear Mullah Nasr Eddin: 'What on earth will happen next? A flea might swallow an elephant!'

How could one discover which skills you are headed to be genetically alien? (Top 1% Master)

Hard to say. It's not just size but their brain might have entirely new organs in the head. I have read about alien brians which have 13 hemispheres rather than our 2. Who knows what spiritual powers that unlocks.

@Leo Gura Does being human ultimately have advantages? Perhaps it is possible to touch alien consciousness by increasing neuronal density to maximum. It's not like their cranial box is double ours, right? People in remission of anorexia recover their lost gray matter in a few weeks, in theory the more energy there is available, the more important the production of neural stem cells in the dente gyrus, their migration and ultimately their survival. Raymond Peat was taking progesterone, pregnenolone and DHEA, and still had a monstrous photographic memory in his 80s, could remember some stupid detail he had read in a newspaper 60 years earlier.

I was personally entirely under the impression that the alien is not using supernatural abilities by a technical definition, but some kind of genetic or biological capability that they are born with which is common for their species. I was even theorizing that the green gas was somehow related to the psychic information channelling. This is similar to that quote where it says something like "Any sufficiently advanced technology will look like magic." I believe in this case the technology is genetic/biological/technological and it is just the case that for humans a similar feat would require supernatural or mystical abilities, but for aliens it is more normal. What are the chances we ran into the one alien who knows about mystical/psychic abilities? It must be common and normal for them, similar to how it is normal for a human to be born with access to a smartphone or how it is normal for humans to be born with two hands. If psychic channeling exists for humans, an alien could do it completely differently, kind of like riding a horse compared to driving a car to reach the same destination. On top of that, I interpreted their claim about healing as something much more open-ended. They are not saying that everything can be healed, but that the human body's healing potential is being neglected. I really feel like this section is more impercise or lost in translation, as I don't think they genuinely believe that "all healing" can be taken care of, if you want to take that statement at face value.

Low doses of knowledge is definitely, definitely, definitely possible. High doses that give you a headache, would take some training---like a specialization. Actually the nagual's blow don Juan gave Carlos in those books to push him into heightened awareness "where the real learning happens" is basically that. And I got instructions from an entity in a dream on how to retrieve information from anywhere in space and time, with an abstract explanation of having my verbal thinking turn to an unbiased tuning state (like a radio dial), an energetic umbilical cord above my navel permeated by Nothingness and sense of Nothingness with the unbiased tuning state. This zero state brings in the information intended. This is like silent knowledge in the Carlos Castaneda books where Carlos was instructed to read pages of the text that would appear on the sky or wall. But a blast of information that would give you a headache, was probably not a good idea on the alien's part. It's like a blast of DMT where you get too much useless information, which is why Tom Campbell says psychedelics generally "increase entropy and disorder" despite their healing potential.